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Have any of you heard the Shaving Cream Song (I don't remember the actual title for sure)? It's pretty old, and it's really funny.

Actually, yeah, and it is, heh

*Sigh*
Holding your opinion against mine is arguing with me.
Sure, the beatles thought about sex, they were human, but since when is that song about it?
I'm not an elitist jerk, I think your opinion is as good as mine.
What I find insulting doesn't come from you, it came way back when this FIRST started when I was told old music "gives me a headache"

I play bass too, beleieve it or not, not nearly as well as sax, but it's not easy, I know.
All my point was from the beggining is that it's a shame that musical talent isn't as appreciated these days as much as it used to be. In the video I posted, there' an entire orchestra full of people where as in many groups today, real true and blue instruments have been traded for a synthetic sound, and when people see someone playing trumpet like a beast it's a shame they don't consider one's time a dedication to making such a great sound and trade musicians such as this in for a computer. And when I say songs are about premiscuous sex with many partners? I'm saying that's just downright dirty and unappealing. When you take a song like "I Want to Hold Your Hand" it's simply something more than pure sex, unless, god forbid, I've been shown, you interpret it that way, for one reason or another.

TwinMoon- I know, and I acknowledged that point, writing takes talent, yes, but the computer plays it for you, and this is where I make my point.

I realize my "maybe this isn't for you" line was a bit arrogant, but I was caught up in defending myself, and I'm sorry for saying that.

I'd just like to say, sorry to...well everyone, for letting this all turn into a petty arguement, however, I just can't stand to see true talent insulted, and I get easily frustrated when it isn't recognized or acknowleged, playing sax for 11 years, which means more of my life playing it than not, it kinda makes me angry when music that requires such talent to perform is tossed on the back burner, so to speak.

Are you KIDDING?! Love me Tender is perhaps the only one of those songs even REMOTELY close to being about sex. There's a difference between love and sex, and if you don't think so, you need to straighten out some ideas in your head. I Want To Hold Your Hand, by The Beatles??! It's about puppy love!!!

"Love Me Tender" is in fact the only one that could possibly NOT be about sex in that list.
"Will You Love Me Tomorrow" is the equivalent of "will you respect me in the morning?"
"Dream Lover" is too damn obvious if you actually read the lyrics.
And do you seriously believe that a 23 year old man would want to do nothing more than hold hands?

You're a tool of the doghouse makers. :

I'm not saying there isn't a difference between love and sex*, I'm just acknowledging the existence of things callled euphamisms.

* Actually, there may well not be. I'm hardly an expert.

Yeah, I do believe that. They were the frikkin beatles, ya know, the same people that wrote about Mother Mary and the Yellow submarine? Get your mind out of the gutter, they aren't euphamisms. Take things literally, and if you don't recognize the difference between love and sex, you aren't gonna be a very satisfying mate for some girl. Plus, by saying that Love Me Tender isn't sexual, aren't you contradicting yourself?

I must believe if you can't find talent in that song or at least feel some appreciation for it, you aren't quite the musical expert, so maybe this isn't the topic for you.

Translation:-
"If you don't agree with me, you must not know what you're talking about."

I could equally say that if you can't see the talent, or otherwise appreciate the songs on the radio that are "done on a synthesizer about either having premiscuous sex or senselessly killing random people", then you aren't quite the musical expert, so maybe this isn't the topic for you.

Lionmonkey's right, though - love songs have always been about sex.
"Love Me Tender"? "Will You Love Me Tomorrow"? "Dream Lover"? "I Want to Hold Your Hand"?
The only thing that's changed is the use of the language, which just reflects how people these days are less easily shocked/offended.
Of course "Smoke..." is an exception, but there are exceptions these days, too.

But if you can't read subtext, then clearly you aren't quite the musical expert, so maybe this isn't the topic for you.

Are you KIDDING?! Will You Love Me Tomorrow is perhaps the only one of those songs even REMOTELY close to being about sex. There's a difference between love and sex, and if you don't think so, you need to straighten out some ideas in your head. I Want To Hold Your Hand, by The Beatles??! It's about puppy love!!! There's NO WAY this song could be mistaken for sex, unless you link every instance of the word "love" to the word "sex". It isn't my opinion that synthetic music requires no talent to perfrom. Sure, someone has composed this music, but nobody performs it. No performance = lack of talent. Lack of talent = lack of artistic musical appreciation. People composed AND perfromed then, and some do now, but not nearly as many.

Domithan: You're contradicting yourself. You said:

most music today is done on a synthesizer about either having premiscuous SEX or senselessly killing random people. And call me crazy, but I'm not into much of it.

A bit later you said:

my oldest favorite song has to be Smoke Gets in Your Eyes. I really reflected on the music and lyrics and got so lost in it.

I looked into lyrics and found out that this song has got the word "love" repeating itself at least 4 times. This has led me to a conclusion that this song is about love. And as we all know, love is a surrogate to sex and sexual arousal, invented for censorship.

So, now you're telling me that you reflected on the lyrics about the thing, you're not really into. Doesn't make much sense to me.


About me:  You know, you sometimes get a feeling that you want to get close to this guy, and punch him hard with a baseball bat, screaming "For a love of Christ, please stoo-oh-ooop!". Well this OLD music surely awakens this feeling. Honestly speaking, it gives me nausea.  Always had.

So, Love = Sex?
I don't know about you, but my relationship with MY girlfriend isn't solely based on sex. The reflection I had with this song was not in any way shape or form sexual. I would HARDLY consider what I said contradictory, when you have songs these days with lyrics such as "Aww skeet skeet skeet skeet" on "bitches". Am I not making sense here? Smoke Gets In your Eyes is about heartfelt romance, not random sex with different people. Also, I must believe if you can't find talent in that song or at least feel some appreciation for it, you aren't quite the musical expert, so maybe this isn't the topic for you.

Ah, but the story of buddy holly is so sad, to die that young
And once in a while, a local radio station (AM naturally >.>) pays him a tribute, and they tell stories about him, it makes me so sad

If you wanna go that far back, I myself am fond of Tchaicovski, who doesn't love the nut cracker? Ooh, I like Coltrane as well, I've got the entire Coltrane/Miles Davis set, but I'm far more into Coltrane, being a sax player myself .

Edit: And as far as newer stuff, I do enjoy it! Don't get me wrong, I'm kinda into Swtichfoot and call me queer, but I admit to liking a few evanesence songs, Weezer, The Strokes, etc. etc.

I F***ING LOVE the colors and the style, though.

Forgot to mention this, but I agree with that comment, heh.

Since you're emphasizing "old"... I guess the oldest stuff I've listened to more than briefly and found awesome is Antoine Busnois. Probably his most famous song is a four-voice motet called In hydraulis. It's great. Oh, and Georgian choral music is nothing short of really awesome, and probably counts as really old, considering that the Georgian tradition of polyphony (so I've heard) predates Western polyphony--and then we're talking well over a millennium ago. What can I say. The Georgian tradition of polyphonic music gets my rocks off.

Seriously, though, (though that is not to say that the previous is not serious) if The Platters (or even Jerome Kern in this case) are "really old", then I am not able to pick one old song, even as an example. The vast majority of all music is not exactly new, you know.

Well, as far as mainstream goes >.>
I mean, for example, you could go to your local mall and ask everyone who Tony Williams was, they'd probably say "Wasn't he that tiger on the cereal box?" And I know there's TONS of great music out there! I'm just saying I think the world has gone a bit under par with its current taste in music.

Wow, I've never been much of an eye for visual art, I'm more a musical guy, but I think this looks terrific, if I had to add any criticism, it would be , as GarageGothic said, the static colors of the mountain and hill, similar to what you did would the sky and ground would be more appreciated visually, I believe. Other than that, very impressive, good work!

Okay, well I'm 18, but let's face it, most music today is done on a synthesizer about either having premiscuous sex or senselessly killing random people. And call me crazy, but I'm not into much of it. People often ask:

"What kind of music are you into?"
To which I simply reply:
"GOOD music"

I started this topic because I was listening to the radio today, and I only liked maybe 2 of 20 or 30 songs I heard. I began to go through my really old collection later just to get some relief from the crap I was hearing on the radio. And I'm in sort of a chill mood today, so I listened to some of a really old group, The Platters. Recorded in 1959, my oldest favorite song has to be Smoke Gets in Your Eyes. I really reflected on the music and lyrics and got so lost in it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=57tK6aQS_H0

Does anyone else have any old music they like? Gotta miss the days when musical talent was more appreciated.

(By the way, I'm always happy to make mp3's and midis for games )

This one's AWESOME with capital letters. It's just so good, I watch it over and over. And it's not by me.

Ahhhhhh that was tripy as helllll xD

Would anyone like it if I lengthed and cleaned up my first game, or should I move on to a whole seperate story? Should I make my first game medium/full-length or should I just move on? This is really just a way for me to gather opinions :>

Isn't the transparent color the bottom-left pixel by default? Or am I mistaken? That's how I planned my graphics in my first game and they turned out alright.

As far as your character moving, is each view for your character 4 frames long? If not, make sure this is so.

So I've been asked to offer explanation for the end of my game, at which point the main character, James, uses SOMETHING on the dryer door to retrieve his teddy bear and thus offering him comfort and what is assumed to be the end of his nightmare. However, it was argued that this last puzzle made no sense. Explore more, you'll find plenty of clues toward the start of the game, before the transformation of his house, that suggest James will need more 'Leverage' or some sort of advantage to open the dryer. 

WOW. Huge mistake, the link has been fixed, I uploaded the debug version. Sorry. 

I think maybe you might want to flesh out this one, but you can always save that for later.... Start with sequels and go back later and retouch the ones that you already made.





Long Live James!

Wow that looks great!! You have some talent there! To do that within an hour of the game being released o.o   If you ever need help with anything under my name over there <---(voice,music, story, etc.) Let me know I'm glad to help anyone.

All in all it really captured my imagination... I definitely would like to see more.

I appreciate it, thanks! I'll make a longer sequel pending the reviews this gets.

I accidently clicked submit before entering my password, and lo and behold, I need to edit something. However, It claims I HAVE a password, but I didn't enter anything. Is there anyone who can help me in this situation?