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haha, yeah evil. looks a little like the ol' midwestern us

It's a little more hilly in places here in OK - but yeah, here too. I was thinking the same thing. WTF lgm, haven't you ever been to the US?

I dont know if this is sarcasm or not...I think LGM lives in Iowa

haha, yeah evil. looks a little like the ol' midwestern us

central Ohio, like panda, except my university is bigger than his.

-junc

haha yes junc...Ohio State is bigger then Denison. isnt OSU the 2nd biggest college in the world?

ok junc, now we're getting somewhere.
I like what you are saying, and I agree with most of it.  A lot of the laws passed everyday really arent important at all, or wont go into effect. senators use these to pad their bill count, so it looks like they have done more then they have. However, a lot of politics IS complicated, and not everything can be simplified for a region as large and diverse as Ohio.
Your idea would work great on a local level, or maybe even a small state. but there really is too much activity going on in our state, or the country, to do it.

You are right. people should know. It makes me very upset when our citizens cant be bothered to turn off NASCAR for a second, and pick up a newspaper.

Junc, you said earlier that almost all choices should be made by popular vote, and just because a person is dumb doesnt mean they shouldnt vote. I hope I am correct in my understanding of this.
Have you ever been to a session of the Ohio Senate? The statehouse isnt too far from the OSU main campus if I remember. I was there last week shadowing sen.Goodwin, to see if I wanted to be a politician when I grow up. I sat in on one of those sessions.
Im a student of goverement. I read more then 1 paper a day, and read as much as I can about everything. i think, even tho Im only 17, I have a better understanding about Ohio's goverment the joe junchbox.
I didnt have a freakin clue what most of those guys are talking about. Quick, Junc, what should we do about bill 214 tax bill? Most of these bills the public never even hears about. its just too complicated.
Most people can barely become informed enough to make a good choice for the presidental election, and they get an entire year head start. It asks too much of everybody to learn the details of every single little bill so they can vote on it. it would almost require every citizen to have at least a B.D. in policital science. it just isnt practical.

every citizen should vote. but, it isnt a good idea to have everybody vote on everything. the system we have going on here seems to work ok.

I hope I havent read your posts wrong.

Im a democract, and a left-leaning person. I agree with some of the principals of socialism, such as every person deserving teh rights of health care, a job, etc.
That being said, I dont think socialism can work on a large scale...and I dont really want it to.

I have a right to be able to find a job, or earn the skills to get a job, should I need one.
I also have the right to pick my vocation, my school, or even if I want to have a job. There are consequences of not having a job on purpose, such as not having any money, but thats a choice I claim I can make.

I have the right to vote out my leaders if I dont like 'em...or not vote at all. Im not sure if every choice should be made by popular vote. I think our system works pretty well...and...I know this sounds really horrible, but a lot of people in america are dumb, and there are some evil people in political power. it would be way easy to take advantage

One of my creedos is to "work hard, play hard, and give something back", and thats how I think out goverments should be based. We all work hard for the system, play hard in the system, and give and get back from the system. We cant all put the same amount back...to use a columbus allusion here junc, you cant expect people living in walnut ridge to pay the same amount or give the same amout as people who live in dublin or pickerington. its just important that you give something back...volenteer, help the elderly, etc. If we all give back, we can have a mini-socalism in Ameica, without the negitive side effects, such as mass state control and loss of personal liberty, which is our most important gift.

computer not printing screen, so I'll just tell you

Chicago- 25 or 6 to 4
Blue Man Group-Drumbone
Blue Man Grioup-Time to Start
Squirrel Nut Zippers- Suits are picking up the bill
Royal Crown Revue- Hot Rod
Royal Crown Revue- Zip Gun Bop
Royal Crown Revue- Datin' with no dough
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy- Go Daddy O
Blues Traveler- Hard to Say
Fleetwood Mac and the USC Marching Band- Tusk
Fleetwood Mac and the USC Marching Band- Dont Stop
BTO- Takin Care of Bussiness
Bruce Springsteen-  10th Avenue Freeze Out
Doobie Brothers- China Grove
Univeristy of Nebraska Marching Band- Street Cadences
Univeristy of Southern California Marching Band- Percussion Battle

As you can see, its mostly retro swing, or class rock. if you guys havent herad the fleetwood mac + USC songs, they are mind blowing. the percussion pieces at the end are inspiration for my senior music project, where Im composing percussion peices

I really dont understand why people say, "yeah, what we did was wrong, but saddam was worse" DUH! We KNOW that saddam was a tyanical dictator...and that he murdered people...that's why we're there. the fact that my country has to rationalize its behavior by maintaining its "not as bad as the last dictator" disgusts me.

We are supposed to have the high ground. America doesnt torture people, or at least the arent supposed to. You cant write it off as war, or heat of the moment. it a disgrace, and somebody needs to take the hit. the first guy gets a dishonerible discharge and a year in the pen. if a prison guard did that in the states, he'd get at least 5 years. why should this be any different?

also, giving these prisoners pork is such is pretty terrible. its like rounding up a bunch of Mormons and giving them all bud lights. you cant do that. Yeah, these guys are evi.. we're not asking for hot tubs and hot babes. Treat 'em like any other prisoner back home...give them food to eat, and clothes on their back. You'll save american lives that way.

currently network tech, and baseball umpire

want: to study politics and goverment, have job in state department/ us senete

there was a girl in my class who didnt take sex ed. she asked me if I had to go number 1 and 2, if I had to stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down...

"actually, guys can use the bathroom sitting down too"

doesnt that break the penis?

uh....no.

weirdos.

congrats SSH!

m0ds, or anybody else,  if you want in on those laptops, act fast. LGM and C are making big plays at buying 'em

I've got two toshiba pendium laptops...about 2 gig hardrives, 150 mgz. I'll let either of them go really cheap. pm for more details

bob's quest was my first AGS game. the graphics hurt. I used roger. there were bugs and misspellings. the only possible redeaming quality is that the game was a little funny at times.

It has since been remade so its bareible...and has been played all over the world. for a while, it was an ags hallmark for shity games. I got better tho, and you will too

haha, thanks guys. I found the thread, and all is well with the world now.

shab, I saw that.....and frankly, I dont care. Im still rick james bitch

hey, I was trying to find an old thread in the ezboard forums...when I changed browsers, it is no longer in my favoirtes, and I cant find the link on the main site. is it still up somewhere? is there an adress? or is this important thread gone for good?

Big stupid Mormon eh? I should have known you would have sunk so low

Boyd's avatar is retarded, and he looks like a date rapist

LGM is fat, and his bob's quest art sucked

then I suppose Im naive. everytime it happens, Im shocked.

when people become apathetic to this sort of thing, we can never change it

just because it DOES happen Darth doesnt mean it SHOULD
Did the Americans torture people in gulf war I? if they did, I didnt know anything about, and neither does the rest of the press.
Did WE do the torturing in grenada? serbia? bosina? NO. That was other people

if we are going to take the moral high ground, which is part of the basis of this war, WE CANNOT DO THAT. More of our people are going to die because of this.

Politicians lie. doesnt mean they should. we elect our leaders because we think they can be honest and lead. when they dont, in a democracy, damn it, we should be outraged.

Im not as old as some of you here, (17), and may not be as politcally cynical yet.

when you're fighting a war to claim the godamn hearts and minds, you cannot torture people.

It makes me very sad to hear about whats happening to my countrymen, and your countrymen, in Iraq. Who's so sick to film a beheading? good god, he has a family! I cant click that link...it'll kill me. this tourture sickens my soul

which is partyl why when I hear of the american tourturing, I feel even more sick. I hear these stories all the time, but they happen with other countries, and we shake our heads and go "tisk tisk...good thing America doesnt do that! we;re the  good guys!" and here we go.

I think, more often then not, the USA is the good guys

there is nothing good about tourture. be it a few people, or more.

these people are not americans. or at least not part in my america. In Panda's American, I dont care who you goddamn are. you're still a human. Iraqi, Brazilian, American...you're a human, and are treated as such. There's a difference between a 4 star hotel, and getting freaking food and clothes.