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1. I wouldn't do that.
2. He was working hard on getting that reaction from those who survived.

I mean if a state is publicly hanging people, it most likely is a brutal, militant, authocratic policestate. It doesn't necessarily have to be a racist one and I don't care if you call that fascist or not, that wasn't the point. My point was that it wouldn't stop the violence at all and should be overthrown.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Mussolini and Pinochet did hang 'enemies of the state' publicly. But I don't really care.

I just wanted to point out that what you consider good or bad doesn't depend on who wrote the history.

Yes it does...

Aha! Then why don't all people agree on what's good if they all know the same history and seem not to think about anything other than what people wrote about the past? Why are there still Nazis around?

Maybe, just maybe because they use their brains... (regardless of the quality of their thoughts).

I'm considering abiding the law in general as good and breaking the law as bad. Maybe that's just me, maybe we don't need laws and eveyone will just magically get along.

It's legal to push a homeless out of a train station at night so that he might die in winter. It's legal to imprison someone who owns a certain amount of dope. It's illegal to have sex with someone <18 if you're older than that. It's illegal to play instruments in a train without permission.

I'd consider doing good things as 'good', not abiding the law.

So... in your world, where things are just defined as "wrong" and "right", who told you that having sex with someone younger than 18, annoying people on a train with your mediocre guitar skills or that even consuming drugs is actually not wrong? There's something wrong in your logic. And that is one thing I can definitely say is wrong.

So, you people don't think? You actually don't think about things? Some laws are being made and then you suddenly know what's good and bad? You study the code of law and then know how to act in life? Why do you want stronger punishment if the laws are good as they are? That's some twisted logic.

@Matti: So you are simply saying, that taking a hard stance on crime makes you want to overthrow the government, and therefore you believe a government should be lenient on crime? That makes absolutely NO SENSE!

Good luck defining that. Leftist supporters have used that word so often even for social democracies. So, apparently overthrowing the government is always legitimate as long as you want to intall something more left-wing? Man, the Antifa here in my home country would be proud of you...

No, I'm saying that a government that publicly hangs people should be overthrown.

You know, there are people DURING the current regime who believe the current laws suck and summarily executing criminals is a good thing. Does that change anything? No...

I just wanted to point out that what you consider good or bad doesn't depend on who wrote the history.

However, we are again trying to compare the western civilization to that of the one in middle east. As was stated before, such comparisons are unrealistic and pointless.

It's legal to push a homeless out of a train station at night so that he might die in winter. It's legal to imprison someone who owns a certain amount of dope. It's illegal to have sex with someone <18 if you're older than that. It's illegal to play instruments in a train without permission.

I'd consider doing good things as 'good', not abiding the law.

I learned about good and bad from Disney movies! 

If your thoughts about the world originate from movies then we can stop talking.

Disagreed! There'd be a civil war! And if I'd live there I would fight!

So mr. Matti would start a civil war for.... his right to -- loot shops and burn cars.

No, but I think that fascist governments should be overthrown as soon as possible.

@Matti - regarding the nazi metaphor

Think about it this way: if the Nazis had won the darn war, WOULD that person have been seen as a bad person today? It's the winners who write and shape history, and since the War ended the way it did, those things are now looked down on. But I digress: comparing 1940's world to modern world is just as ridiculous as comparing the dark ages to modern days. These are different times and different things are effective now.

You know, there were people DURING the Nazi regime who DIDN'T think that gassing jews was a good thing. And what have different times to do with that? Killing syrian civilians isn't against syrian law, does that make the assassins and soldiers good people? And why?

Also, for the record: I haven't gone to church since I finished 9th grade in 2005. It was mandaroty on christmas to go to church, but at heart I am an atheist. Religion is of no matter in thus subject and I find it silly you even brought it up when we are taling about laws and their meaning in relation to the recent riots, when these matters are and should remain completely separate from religious matters.

It's just that I've never heard an atheist using the terms 'good' and 'bad' to describe a human being.

Aside from that, I'm astounded how anybody can actually defend them. Oh they are such poor souls. Their lives are so oppressive, so hard, in comparison to people dying from starvation and disease in Kenyan refugee camps. It's not fair how they're given the chance at a free education.

I tell you why: Because you know SHIT about them. They all live their individual lives and you know SHIT about their lives. Don't try to pigeonhole all the looters. That isn't any better than saying jews are greedy or black people are inferior.

And why the hell do you have to compare their lives to those of Kenyan refugees? Should it make somebody happy that - in comparison to others - they don't have to starve to death? No, why should it! It doesn't make your everyday life any better! And actually you're stating that their lives aren't that good if you're saying that they aren't that bad in comparison.

It's not fair their life is served to them on a silver platter. Society must change! Actually no fuck that, why don't they change their attitude and be grateful for living in a country that strives to do everything for them?

So you actually tell people to change their attitude to fit in whatever society they live in? What a stupid suggestion.

Oh, and could you point me towards that silver platter? I've never seen it..

And it is the GOOD people who can resist mob mentality, can identify it and can respond to it in a calm and collected manner. It is the BAD people, who cannot control their emotions, their greed and their violence. To be more precise: their ANIMALITY.

It is these people we could do without, it is these people we should, indeed, we MUST control and contain.

GOOD vs BAD? Rioters = animals? What the hell?! I recommend not going to church anymore, those guys there poison your very thoughts.

Law abiding = Good you say? A concentration camp overseer does act according to the law - and that makes him a good person? Sorry to bring in the Nazis here, but it illustrates my point quite well. Also, InCreator seems to favor leadership and they knew how to do it.

I think all who are caught and found guilty of looting and violence should get their names and faces and even home addresses posted all over the media and the internet. I can imagine the future of these people, going into job interviews and getting turned down due to their criminal history so they will have to live in misery for the rest of their short days.

Ah, if only the world were so perfect...

THAT would be a perfect world for you? I'd say in a perfect world there'd be no need for crimes. But shooting and imprisoning criminals seems to be the favored alternative to cutting the roots for crimes to most people it seems.

Can be argued, but if we'd have gallows and 20 looters hanging publically in London right now, there wouldn't be even thought of a riot for next 50 years.

Disagreed! There'd be a civil war! And if I'd live there I would fight!


I don't want to defend the rioters but I don't want to attack them either. I don't know their individual lives. There might be people who burn down buildings cause they don't know what to do with their day and there might be people who grab a DVD player cause they can't afford one. I don't blame the latter. But one thing is for sure, some of the opinions here are what makes the world a worse place than it could be, not some random looter who steals a fucking TV.

I tried clicking the load button just for the hell of it and it actually worked! however it loads the state from the previous edit. Therefore the new changes are not seen in this state.

Do you mean changes within the opened game in the editor or the game itself? If by "load button" you mean the "run" button then try build -> rebuild all files.

Let's shoot the poor. They're not 'productive' anyway.

Just a thought!

You must believe!

Looks interesting.

Also the person who was making Robots of Dawn is a woman (forgot here name sorry).

Nightfable I think.

Shooting at religious fanatics and those with true ideals will just create martyrs and people's heroes.
Shooting at thugs and criminals, I doubt will affect much more than said thugs and those who are like them.

So your idea to stop riots is to recreate the conditions for a riot?

Saying they lose their citizenship when they go out to riot is just right. No citizenship, no rights. Service guarantees citizenship!

...and with no rights, they do what exactly? Riot maybe? I would for sure!


As long as society is so brutally organized and hostile as it is, there will be riots. I consider it pointless and even malicious to point fingers on some rioters while there's always

legitimate frustration

among the people. Sometimes there's a sudden burst which leads to destruction and violence. Should we care so much about the actual situation that lead to the riot? Should we care so much about who actually participates in the riot? Or should we think about what's going wrong with how people live together?

EDIT: Wait I just reread the thread. Some of you are suggesting *shooting at them*? Like.. with guns?

O yeah, and let's shoot everyone. This thread could function as a fascist's guide to power.

Happy one, Mister Leafshade.

I think Baron just wanted to point out that he hasn't changed his avatar for years too (or ever?).

Yay, finished. Lovely game!

I just think that

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the dog could've had a bigger role. The 'bite' verb is great but I really thought that the dog would open the can. You know, somebody with TEETH. That maybe Janets teeth wouldn't be strong enough or so..

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Yeah, I remember this, very fallout-esque. Looking forward to it.

Btw, it says "strenght" instead of "strength".

You all seem to have forgotten the story behind this.

dbuske already announced quite a few games in the GIP and CGA threads. I guess since nobody replied to the last one he doesn't want to start those threads anymore. Also, due to all the forum nazis here, he left the AGS scene only to come back two weeks later. As for Dumbledore and Grindelwald, the last thread was already the second one.

With the incredible amount of info and the superpolished graphics in addition to the extra-nice attitude and genuine consideration of what other people have to say I wonder why so few people give feedback or even play the games?

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Quite a nice and cute game there, Ghost. The walkcycle is awfully slow, but that's what you get from being a zombie I guess 

I'm stuck though:

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What do I do with the exhaust pipe? The other pipe doesn't fit and I can't seem to figure out what to do with it.

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Oh, and there were two typos in the dialog at the beginning. I think "arrangement" and something else, can't really remember right now.

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Not sure if eating all that meat is good, we still dont know what kind it is.

Eating meat could not possibly have negative effects. Ever. Anyone who says it could is a vegan liar and a troll!

I'm pretty sure that at least it'll taste better if we'd use the torch on the meat!