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Here's a couple of my pics:

http://www.cgempire.com/forgottenelement/lemmyandbinky/1.JPG
http://www.cgempire.com/forgottenelement/lemmyandbinky/2.JPG
http://www.cgempire.com/forgottenelement/lemmyandbinky/3.JPG

Binky

Was that last one taken in Cornwall?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Yufster/Pict0rz4668467.jpg




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Oh... it was a nice touch anyway

But yeah the comics in general are really good. I'm always wary when people post comics up for critique or something because they're usually kinda lame. But these are really good... art and jokes too and all that jazz...!

Art kinda reminds me of Family Guy... any influence?

If my cousin didn't work there I would have never found out about the game in the first place. Besides, unless you're really dumb enough to give out your forum name you won't have any problem.

Also, I never said my cousin works at blizzard, dumbass.

Make your mind up.

If my cousin didn't work there I would have never found out about the game in the first place. Besides, unless you're really dumb enough to give out your forum name you won't have any problem.

So you're saying you're going to attempt to get your cousin, who apparently 'works at Blizzard', to risk his job to ban someone from World of Warcraft?

You may claim your cousin works at Blizzard, but I can very truthfully say that I work in the games industry and I can tell you now, SkyFire, that's not how things work. Even if your supposed cousin really DID work at Blizzard, and even if he also happened to be a GM, I could have him fired for banning my account. But of course, since your cousin doesn't really work at Blizzard, this will never happen. Besides which, I actually do know people working at Blizzard, as I work within the games industry.

So stop making silly threats, okay? I know better than you, so you're not going to 'scare' me as you obviously intend to.

I'm glad if I ever see anyone like yufster in WoW they will get suspended every day. 

...Why? And... what? Are you going to claim you work at Blizzard now or something?

I did, but my trial ran out. And I'm too poor/mean to pay for it. Tongue

I was suprised that I enjoyed it more than other MMOs I've played, though.

Yeah, I tried playing Guild Wars but it seemed really Linear... I've heard it gets a lot better if you progress a bit further than I did, but I don't know... the world isn't as interesting as that of WoW, either....

You should get a subscription again are you going to play when BC comes out at least?

You play WoW, limpingfish?

Hahahaha I love the christian symbol but with "legs"... hahahaha... nice touch

I've already let Scotch log into my account to view the PMs... erm... is that enough? I can send you my login details so you can check too... it's kind of a 'lie-proof' way (so you know I haven't edited what he's said or anything).

Thanks M0dski

Geez guys, if someone's annoying you that badly, why don't you just block them in the first place instead of throwing your PMs all over the forums? :/

SkyFire continually harrasses both Matt and I. He always sends the first nasty PM because he knows that if he said such a thing in public, he'd be banned. I know, as Matt probably does, that showing a moderator some of the things he's sent us (unprovoked, too!) would probably not get him banned, as moderators here are so laid back.

However, by mentioning some of the things in public that he says, I've had great results. He immediately stopped threatening me, although he didn't apologise. I assume Dominos comment about it still being harrassment even over the internet scared him...

Hopefully he'll stop being so sneaky and nasty to members of the AGS forums. If he's not going to be banned, then at the very least I want people to realise what a vile underhand and sneaky little piece of work he is.

Anyway you have to admit that one quote was really, really funny

It's quality stuff. Feel free to experience my rage!

Yes, I suppose you're right.

My conclusion is: Fuck the internet, I want real life back

But people are so much less tolerant in Real Life!!!!

"real life" is such a ridiculous phrase hahaaha...

I've proven you wrong, now you have to buy me a drink sometime (6 pack of import heineken in oddbins, £4.50, I'll give you my postal address in PM)

Ah, of course apologies should be necessary! Even in an ideal world, people are going to disagree or cross each others paths, and apologising is a wonderful thing to do!

And it's not all just for having directly insulted Matt on purpose... one person on that thread apologised for having said something without REALISING he would be offended... you see? Immediately I have more respect for that person...


In an IRL situation, people would be far less eager to apologise... IRL people hold grudges far more easily and for far longer... don't you find?

Hmm, I actually find that apologies happen far more on internet forums that in real life...! Particularly AGS forums... that's something I've always loved about it, that people really aren't afraid to apologise if they've upset someone... like for instance, ManicMatt, right there is an example of people immediately apologising when they realise the seriousness of his situation.

By the way, this thread wasn't at all in spite of your post...! I'm going to be honest... I didn't read your post

This thread was actually mostly because of SkyFire, because he's made me appreciate how many decent people are actually on this board and how the discussions we have, while they often become quite heated arguments... aren't actually generally nasty. And people DO apologise and learn, and I like that!


As for me being from Ireland... I did know a girl who was EXTREMELY anti-English, and as I am English I did get quite a lot of "shit" from her. She was extremely aggressive and that's what I don't like... that's the kind of person SkyFire is putting himself across as being. He can't win an argument in public, so he sneakily says nasty things to people via PM. It's underhand and unpleasant, but I don't see a point in reporting him as so few people get banned on this forum ever. However, I can deal with one unpleasant person. Everyone else I know here is fine... even people I don't particularly like, because they're not nasty and vicious, they just mind their own business. They don't bother threatening you in PM because you have disagreed with them.

But a lot of people in Ireland (I'm from the South where things are generally peaceful!)... a lot of people are fine, and will discuss things and, yes, they'll become heated... but that's it, that's all.


The reason I love AGS is because you can have this angry debates and not fall out with people, and not be afraid to apologise and see others point of view. At least, that's the way I've always seen AGS forums...

I think to be honest in real life I wouldn't bother arguing with people like SkyFire. Because I would feel bad arguing with a 15 year old boy, but also to be honest I don't think he'd be quite as rude in real life. For instance, this gem of a PM he sent me after he threatened to rape my 'transexual ass'... sorry SkyFire, it's too good to not share:

Feel free to shit yourself as you experience my rage! Fuck bastard super cockshitmaster!!!! fuckity fuck fuck fuck! cuntlicker wallfucker!

I told yutzster to "fuck off" because she continued to spam me with garbage. She whined about it so i did more and the spamming stopped.

Alright, this is a lie so I really do have to react to this... he's already claimed I sent him porn via PM before...

SkyFire, I don't know how many other people besides Matt and myself that you have tried to 'sneakily' harrass through PM while maintaining an innocent face in public, but give it up. If I showed moderators some of your comments you would immediately be banned for extreme racism, extreme sexism, threatening me, threatening to rape me, threatening to rape my boyfriend... and that's just off the top of my head. If you try to deny this, I can show any single person who is interested my account with PMs from you. That's solid proof that you can't deny.

I still haven't recieved an apology from you for any of these things. I don't believe you've apologised to ManicMatt either.

At least when myself or other people on the forums are angry or rude to other forumers, we do it with honesty. I didn't pretend I wasn't angered by ManicMatt's overreaction, but that doesn't mean I don't like him, and it ESPECIALLY doesn't mean I send him nasty and childishly taunting PMs in secret to offend him. I broached the subject in front of everyone, and if anyone wants to disagree, that's fine. That's how discussions work.

I don't believe you would act like this in a real life, face-to-face conversation... because if you threatened to rape me in real life, you would go to prison. Sadly, because you feel safe behind the wall of the internet, you feel like you can say these things without any consequences. And sadly, that's mostly true. But my point is, you don't contribute to debates. You don't give your opinion and then listen to or respect the opinion of others. You just send them vicious PMs telling them how you're going to rape them. Or asking if they were sexually abused as a child whilst being called a 'Paki'.

If you disagree with this... if you think that telling somebody how you're going to rape them is a valuable contribution to an argument... please do tell us how!

Picturing some of you guys in a heated argument with Skyfire about anything is amusing, and sad.

I'M NOT A CHILD!!!! YOU HAVE NO PROOF!




I think to be honest in real life I wouldn't bother arguing with people like SkyFire. Because I would feel bad arguing with a 15 year old boy, but also to be honest I don't think he'd be quite as rude in real life. For instance, this gem of a PM he sent me after he threatened to rape my 'transexual ass'... sorry SkyFire, it's too good to not share:

Feel free to shit yourself as you experience my rage! Fuck bastard super cockshitmaster!!!! fuckity fuck fuck fuck! cuntlicker wallfucker!

Of course, people don't behave like that in real life so much, but I think for the most part, the rest of us are pretty much our true selves on this forum... or close enough, anyway. If everybody was like Skyfire, no, there wouldn't be a point in arguing. But very few people are... most people have something interesting to say or contribute, and it all makes for very interesting reading


Clever people arguing is generally an interesting thing to observe

Are all these threads about religion and racism and so on and so forth... are they REALLY a bad thing? They degenerate into name-calling and abuse every single time. But is  this bad? It's exactly what happens in real life, right? You start a conversation with a group of 40 people about religion, and you're all going to have a different opinion, and you're going to start annoying each other and by then you've got a fully fledged argument on your hands. Massive arguments about things like religion aren't restricted to this forum.

So is it actually a bad thing that it happens? SkyFire1 for instance, made an extremely racist remark, and claims he's not racist and did not mean for it to be racist. All that happened was that he got flamed a bit on an internet forum. As a result, he won't get his teeth kicked in when he says that to someone in real life.

On the upside, people like ManicMatt... a good, friendly person... really overreacted to the use of the word "paki", which nobody else found as offensive as him. This resulted in borderline flaming of Matt for being oversensitive. Clearly he didn't mean to offend anyone... quite the opposite. But he overreacted and people have challenged his opinion on the matter and, probably he won't overreact like that if people are having that discussion in real life. Unless they ARE actually being racist in which case... go ahead and sock 'em, Matt .


Everybody always says that its terrible the way those threads degenerate... I think it has to be expected in a forum with such a diverse userbase. And I don't think it's such a terrible thing really... it's an angry, heated debate but, unlike real life, nobody is at risk of getting hurt... only banned (Phfshhyeh right).

I personally find these arguments quite enthralling, to see so many very very DIFFERENT opinions and DIFFERENT reactions, and I learn a lot about people from them.

Discuss, and then degenerate into madness and chaos and threats and name-calling so that my job is done...

I bet it was SSH


Anyway don't you find it slightly silly that you're saying "that P word" instead of "paki"? because either way, you're not being racist or racially slurring against other people. You're not doing anything wrong. All you're doing is sounding silly because you can't say a word and you seem to think it will make it less offensive if you tiptoe around it... "The P Word!".

Would it make it less offensive to a black person if I screamed "You are THE N WORD!" instead of "nigger" at them? It would be just as offensive, but it would also make me look like an idiot...

If you're so concerned about the terrible atrocities that these people you know have been through, the way to deal with it isn't to tiptoe around it and pretend it never happened or the word doesn't exist. If you have such an issue with it, then let people know why you don't like it, and don't be afraid to say it...

By pretending like it doesn't exist or something, you're just drawing more attention to it and yourself, and I'm sure that's not what you want.

You can't deal with racism by being afraid of it and pretending it doesn't happen. Flouncing into a thread about racism, screaming, "Oh no I hate the P word because of REASONS I CAN'T SAY, you're all horrid for using it over and over again in this discussion!" and then flouncing out again.... that does nothing useful at all.

If the word offends you that much, perhaps you shouldn't be reading a perfectly acceptable thread full of people discussing racism.

If you have such a violent verbal reaction to it, either don't read and contribute to the thread, or tell us why. Don't expect us to be concerned for you when you're so opposed to a perfectly reasonable discussion for some 'MYSTERIOUS' reason. And to be honest, unless you have a phobia directly related to people saying "nigger" or "paki" or whatever word it is that offends you, then I don't see ANY reason why a bunch of non-racist people (except for skyfire, obviously) discussing the woes of racism, should be a problem for  you.

Unless you can prove otherwise, of course. Otherwise stop having a spack attack and just leave the thread alone.

I think the issue here isn't so much should violent games be banned. Video games are a form of artistic expression, right, in the same way as movies. There are plenty of violent movies. Some violent movies are crap... like End of Days. Some violent movies are good, like Kill Bill. Same goes for games.

What SHOULD happen is that it should be harder for kids to get their hands on material that's not suitable for them. In the UK, most places I know don't sell these types of games to minors. You wouldn't sell an 18 rated movie to a kid, so don't sell them an 18 rated game. And that way it's up to the parents to decide whether their child is mature enough or not to play an 18 rated game, or watch an 18 rated movie.

There was an incident about a year ago, where a Hitler fanatic shot up a bunch of jews in a synangogue. He'd read all the anti-jew literature he could get his hands on and screamed "HEIL HITLER!" while shooting people, and yet video games got the blame. Video games, and not books. Books full of information on Hitler which he had studied painstakingly prior to his attack. His attack and motives were linked directly to literature, but that did not get the blame!

That is because you cannot blame books for people killing other people, and that is common sense.

I was at a panel with Peter Molyneux a couple months ago and (I think it was Molyneux anyway, actually maybe it was an EA guy...) made an excellent comment. He asked us to imagine if books had only been invented within the past ten years, but video games had been around for a century. Imagine what people would say:

"Children waste away while sitting in corners of their room, straining their eyes to see the tiny print, lost in the world of the book. It is a solitary and anti-social practise, not like playing video games, where the child is participating actively and often with friends or online. Children feel trapped as they cannot change the course of the book, they cannot prevent bad things from happening, they must accept what the book tells them has happened. Not like video games, where the child is free to be the hero, to save the day, to choose his or her own course of action."

That kind of thing... I believe he was quoting from elsewhere and if anybody else could find that actual quote I would be much appreciative...

Video Games have still to mature greatly. You still can't have sex in a video game, right, without causing an uproar. Even tastefully done, like in Fahrenheit (I've not actually played Fahrenheit, I'm sorry, but I heard it was tastefully done, do correct me if I'm wrong...).  That scene was removed from the US version, right?

It's ridiculous. Games have the potential to be a really powerful form of artistic expression. In fact, a lot of games already are. But they're still being held back by this ridiculous notion that games are just for kids.

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God I don't own those forums. I had no idea they even existed until Yutzster google cache linked. There are other people on the internet named skyfire1. I bet you'll say I lied about my profession after reading this.

*waits to hear everyone say "OMG! HE PHOTOGRAPHS!"

other people on the internet called skyfire1, who also are 15, and live in Miami. And also what a coincidence that THAT SkyFire1 took down his site just as YOU discovered I'd found it!

I'm going to stop hijacking this thread now, sorry! I really enjoy watching SkyFire1 struggle and squirm and lie though... don't mind me