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That's hilarious, well done mate

EDIT: Did you write the song?

First time I played Guild Wars, I was so embarrassed. About ten minutes of game time, and this kid ran up to me a said, 'plz join my guild, we wil be STRUNG and powarful'

I did. I was curious, so I did. His guild was called 'DRAGNS BLAK'.

'pilaz halp me' he said.

'Ok' I replied dubiously.

'ok. come.' he ordered.


I found Guild Wars was full of people like him...

Have you tried WoW? I was the same as you, but did actually find WoW really quite magical. I was really against giving it a go at first, because all my co-workers talked about it all day long and made it seem incredibly boring... I still wouldn't go as far as some people, you know, with the whole 'talking about WoW 24 hours a day' thing that occurs... but I must say, it's quite enjoyable

There's a massive world to explore and a lot to do... you're not so aware about the whole 'levelling up' thing as you are with a lot of MMORPGs I reckon

Skyfire: I have an idea. Why don't you start a separate thread where you can you know, try and get one up on people or you know, tell people how old you are or tell people that you don't mind 'fags', or whatever else you want to do, and the rest of us can get on with this discussion? You can be loud and annoying and edit your posts repeatedly and do and say whatever you like and nobody will even have to read it.


hotspot: yeah, but I'm the same with WoW. I wouldn't enjoy it if I had to play without my friends... the thing that struck me about guild wars was that... well, first of all I didn't feel nearly as attached to my character as I do in WoW. I also didn't find the world as interesting or immersive... it seemed quite bland. Someone in some review somewhere at some point in time (¬¬) said that Guild Wars is the 'thinking mans' Warcraft"...  but it really isn't ...

You know, I think people underestimate how useful Testing experience is in the games industry. You may be a qualified artist or programmer, you may want to get into design, but man... that doesn't make QA experience less useful.

I wish people wouldn't just pass it off as 'useless' experience so often...

Could be.

Indeed I don't personally think extremely high of the testers. noth that they're not useful or that without them there would be any game/software out really. I value that. But somehow while all the team is being creative the tester is not. So... That's mainly my reason.

But yes you are right, and I do apologise for that...

Hehehe, no, I realise testers aren't the ones being creative...!

But it's still really useful experience to have if you want to do other things. Not essential, but useful.



SteveMcCrea... it was a small company, yeap

I agree though, it's terrible when games companies seem to think that hiring people say, from the movie industry, is a good idea. For the game I worked on, a professional 'movie scriptwriter' was hired to do the script, and it was awful. The guy had no idea what he was doing. Some of the level designers were hired straight from the movie industry, and they were rubbish. Sure, they designed pretty 'sets' for the game... but the levels they designed were not fun. Problems such as having tight corners after 'jumps', so that all players would inevitably crash into the opposite walls after leaping the jump... ridiculous things that anybody who played games would immediately realise were bad ideas!

It's my biggest pet peeve. So many of those designers didn't understand or enjoy games. And what was worse, some of them DID... some of them tried to make themselves heard over the majority who would just ridicule them for being 'geeks'... ?!?? The games industry should NOT be like that

I wouldn't say Guild Wars sucks, but it's really not my cup of tea. I tried playing it and got to about level 9, and it was just this really linear, repetitive gameplay... Actually, Factions seemed a lot less fun than the original...

(Honestly SkyFire1? People like you are the reason I set my profile to be a male)

Mr Buckéthead... why do you prefer Guild Wars, out of interest? My boyfriend works for the publisher, so I've got collectors editions of the first two, and I've got a collectors edition of Nightfall on the way... they're really beautiful collections, man, but I just can't seem to get into the game like I could with WoW.

You know, I think people underestimate how useful Testing experience is in the games industry. You may be a qualified artist or programmer, you may want to get into design, but man... that doesn't make QA experience less useful.

I wish people wouldn't just pass it off as 'useless' experience so often...

I thought they started after the whole 'EA Spouse' uproar, no?

The company I worked for was a smaller company and I forgive them for not having paid overtime... I had a lot of fun while I was there. I did it because, even though I wasn't getting extra money... it was like a big family all surviving crunch mode together. I don't know, it was just a really good atmosphere.

They gave an otherwise unqualified tester a design position? I thought that was just a myth to encourage people work for £3 an hour...

I have no stories about being exploited by the industry, kind of hope I'll never have to be part of it, but the forumites that work in it seem to enjoy it.

They didn't give the other testers there a design position... so perhaps I am unbelievably lucky (although there is always the chance that I am just unbelievably awesome... ¬¬)

Actually, most of the other testers working there, worked with the assumption that everybody knew they wanted to get into design. But nobody actually knew that. The only reason I got offered the job was because, at the 'wrap party' for our game, I had the following conversation with my boss:


"It's gonna be sad to see you go, you know."

"Yes. look. Give me a job. I want to be a designer."

"Oh, you do? I didn't know. There's a junior design position coming up soon. Alright then."




You gotta fight for what you want and all that

I think to be honest, i'm also helped by the fact I'm female. When QA were leaving that company, I got loads of emails wishing me well and giving me contact details, etc. Nobody else in QA (all guys) got the same treatment! In fact, nobody even knew who they were... whereas everybody in the company seemed to know who I was. It was a bit weird, really.

When I was new there, people would come talk to me while I was in the kitchen, ask me questions, get to know me, invite me to the pub... none of the male QA staff got the same attention. It was easy for me to get to know everybody in that company... being female was/is definitely an advantage in the games industry right now...

Hmm, Prog... EA pay overtime now I'm pretty sure.

I'm gonna be a Blood Elf! Hunter! Probably like 99% of everybody else ¬¬

[Male]

You didn't read my post for more than 1 second before posting this. I said I have nothing against homosexuals so why would you take it as a insult?....

....


Plain logic.

Gender:    Male

I really wanted to buy it for my boyfriend for his birthday, but apparently they've just sold out... and won't be making any more collectors editions...

In response to your first post: you say you had nothing against homosexuals, and yet you were clearly implying that you believed I was 'a fag' because you dislike me. You'll probably deny this as you seem to have some kind of problem with lying, but your intent was quite obvious to all.

In response to your second post... you originally claimed that you "always figured" that I was homosexual... before any mention of having a boyfriend.

I find it extraordinarily immature that you would attempt to use homosexuality as an insult.

The fact that you edited your posts to make them look less hostile after posting them only goes to show that you must realise what an idiot you looked, so I won't dwell on this any further. Apparently you have seen your faults and probably feel awfully bad about your childish behaviour, so we'll leave it at that. I'm waiting for an apology, but I doubt you'll apologise, so don't worry too much about disappointing me.

In other, relevant news, I actually managed to secure a copy of Burning Crusades somehow so... woo. That's great. Anybody else here going to play the expansion?

That doesn't explain why he thought I was a gay male, does it?

Sounds to me like he was just trying to use homosexuality as an insult against somebody... which seems terribly immature... even for a 15 year old...

(Still looking for that WoW special edition!)

I really wanted to buy it for my boyfriend for his birthday, but apparently they've just sold out... and won't be making any more collectors editions...

I will totally pay £100 for a collectors edition right now. Gief Gief!

I always figured you were a homosexual. Not that I have anything against fags.

Heh heh, out of curiousity, why did you 'figure' that I was homosexual? What particular action was it that made you suspect I was a gay male?

I know that you don't have anything against 'fags' as you call them, so delightfully I might add, but... what was it that I did that led you to believe it, hmm?

.... I see.

Yes. Now give me your collectors edition. Only WOW will do.

I really wanted to buy it for my boyfriend for his birthday, but apparently they've just sold out... and won't be making any more collectors editions...

I will totally pay £100 for a collectors edition right now. Gief Gief!

I finished up my contract at a games company recently. I got paid a salary and overtime was therefore not paid... I worked it out and basically, including overtime etc, what I earned per hour was...


Slightly less that £3 per hour....


...However, because I had no life and spent my entire life doing overtime, I actually have more money than if I got paid less than that... but that's not the point...

I guess my hard work was paid off because I got offered a junior design position. But still, less than £3 an hour is pretty shocking...

...Anybody else here work in the Games industry? Any tales of woe to share?

Man, I was thinking of things you could say that weren't that, and I suddenly remembered that old nursery rhyme from my childhood...

Ladybird, Ladybird, run away home!
Your house is on fire,
And your children all gone!


Man that's grim.

Anyway you could say something like that to her.

I couldn't agree more.

Although I would also be skeptical about the fact she has 2 children at the age of 20...

I mean, two children suggests that she actually put some thought into having children. It wasn't just one small accident. She started a family. And she started a family with a guy who is apparently abusive. How young must she have been when she first concieved? And now she's obsessing over you.

I kind of get the picture that she's slightly unhinged.

My name is SSH and I'm not even Scottish!!!11one

It's hard to know whether you're molesting children or adults around here, when they lie repeatedly about their age.