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Have you read about many explinations as to why the towers did collapse? Or do you only read about the conspiracy?

Also, if this was allowed to happen by the US government, what about the hundreds of people that would know that it was a cover up?

So then, did we land on the moon?

However, the collapse thing is just rediculous.Ã,  There is no way that those ENTIRE towers collapsed JUST because of the fires inside them.Ã,  I could accept it if just the upper portions of the building gave way, but for both of them to fall straight down like that... too incredible.Ã, 

And yet it happened, and millions and millions and millions of people saw it all live in front of their eyes. Which leads into the second bit:

The controlled demolition idea makes sense to me, and is evidenced by what eye witnesses, firefighters, video footage, and experts repeatedly described.Ã, 

First off, can you supply sources for the experts that are repeatedly describing controlled demolition? Also, the eye witnesses and fire fighters who were inside the building as it began to collapse. Have they ever been inside a sky scraper as it was crumbling down around them? If no then how does that become evidence?

If one has no prior experience with what a building is like as it is destroyed, how does being an eyewitness help?

I can't say that the government fully orchestrated the events of 9/11, because there just isn't enough evidence yet.Ã,  But 9/11 was, at very least, ALLOWED to happen by the government.Ã, 

I asked this question in the old thread: Why?

Why was it allowed?

If you can believe that the US government somehow allowed a terrorist strike to hit the US [which would take a lot of covering up, a lot of people would have to be silenced. A lot. Please speak on this idea, that if it's a cover-up and was allowed to let happen. What happened to the [personal estimation] 200 people that would have to know about it and be in on it?] then do you believe that we went to the moon?

There are plenty of reasons why the US would fake a moon landing and each of them is about as stretched as "To invade Iraq" or "For geopolitical power".

The thing is, with many huge events people can't accept the simple answer.

We never went to the moon. There was a government conspiracy to kill JFK. There was a Royal conspiracy to kill Lady Di.

We went to the moon. Lee Harvey shot JFK on his own. Lady Di got into a car crash. Hijackers crashed planes into the world trade center, the pentagon and almost the white house.

Having an open mind should mean you take in all evidence that is actually evidence. People using Adobe Premier to zoom in on a jpegy image of a plane and trying to say that 2 pixels is a missle, in my opinion, is not evidence. The same way that the face on mars is not evidence of life on mars because if you only look at 1 image where the shadows were just right it does resemble a face, but if you look at the countless other images, it's just a mountain.

As I believe I said in the last thread, a terrorist strike of this size and complexity against the US is huge and scary. Why do we have to try and make it even more awesome [not in the AWESOME! sense] when it's already a very huge deal?

Eric

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=25445.0  we already had this thread I believe.

Also, when did "having an open mind" mean "disregarding all other evidence".

While it may be a friend thing I really don't think this is a forum thing. Personally I feel something like this should just not be on the forums, and I wonder what the other moderators think. Have you asked in IRC?

So you're wimping out and using a canoe this time?

Oh how the mighty have fallen...

I agree with CaptainBinky but I feel there should be a minor correction:

Correction: Sure we love adventure games but more importantly we are all here to have fun creating them. If your idea of fun is tearing into Flukeblake than kindly leave the thread.

All that matters is that a member has fun making his game. Flukeblake is a member of these forums so he doesn't deserve any less.

Wow Bspeers... I can't believe you got that so wrong...

God appointed George Bush and everyone knows it!

All better.

Also, I think these things were televised before [I don't know when they started] and that is also getting this a lot of attention. Apparently Imus [some radio guy, I guess] laid into Clinton a few years ago too.

Oh well, as long as it kept Bush away from the whitehouse where he can do damage.

Increator, making fun of the president, the press and the administration is kinda the point of the correspondance dinner.

LJUBI, Golden Rule Number 1 please. Thank you.

He posted here for a bit, Jet. Made a game [or 2?] also. Went on IRC if I recall also.

Good thing the major reports about the night sum everything up by saying "Bush pokes fun at self." and then mention Stephen Colbert in maybe 2 lines...

But either way, Colbert is pretty much the most testicled man in America.

you can plug the remote controller like thing into a standard game controller like shell, apparently.

Shut up Big Brother...

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You have no idea how popular the gameboy is. People are still buying Gameboy Colour games and the GBA is amazingly profitable. The DS makes up something like 40% of Ninetendo's revenue.

I know exactly how popular the Nintendo handhelds are. I have a gameboy colour and actually still use it. I didn't say anything bad about the handhelds. Only consoles. I am just a big 'ol nintendo hater. Its just how I was raised.



Oh and the fact that the DS makes up almost half the profits of Nintendo is somewhat sad.



Some of those quotes sound like Nintendo is trying to control us and make us join together and rise up in rovolt. Lol

So a company makes millions and millions of dollars off of it's handheld console and that's sad? The gameboy and the DS are consoles by the way. You may like to pretend they aren't but ask any company developing for it.

Man, of all the companies in this world to hate... Nintendo? I will never understand fanboy mentality.

I recommend reading the wired article then Paul, I'll quote a bit from it:

"Is it a homophone for a British slang word that means "urine"? Yes. But so is the first-person plural pronoun. If I said, "What are we doing tonight," would you repeat back to me, "What are wee doing tonight? Huh? Huh? Get it?" I would wonder what the hell your problem is, quite frankly.

The French word for "yes" also rhymes with "wee," and indeed this was the subject of much hilarity in French class. When I was in sixth grade. By seventh grade, when we turned thirteen, we were over it. That the Internet in toto is less mature than a group of thirteen-year-olds is not surprising, but neither is it damning to Nintendo's fortunes.

Of course, I expect the Internet to brim over with toilet humor; that is what the Internet is for. But the Internet is not real life. They've already proven this in a variety of ways related to Nintendo product announcements. Remember the almost universal outpouring of disdain following the announcement of the Nintendo DS? Nintendogs?

And look where that got the Internet. Nintendo DS is nothing short of a nationwide cultural phenomenon in Japan. Nintendo pushed hard away from the traditional notion of a video game system and did quite well for their efforts

In short, the fuss over Wii is an Internet Problem, not a Real Life Problem. In real life, the name's soundalike will pass almost entirely without notice. The positives of Wii will vastly outweigh the negatives. "

also check out Architecture in Helsinki:

http://www.architectureinhelsinki.com/

He did a music video for them and it's on their site "Do the Whirlwind".

He's my hero.