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I enjoy when the priest says "By the power vested in me by the state of New York..."

A priest can be the bestest of buddies with God, Jesus and Slimer but the state gives him the power to marry?

Maybe marriage is more a legal matter than people think?

if you are interested in seeing how system shock does the hacking you can search youtube and also read FAQs on how it works.

Same answer really

"Of course they do. Skeptics have as much right to comment on the Bible as believers do."

Why should they not comment on each part of the bible? There are religious people who claim all of natural science, biology, archeology etc is wrong because a book says so, why can't we question that book?

Do you feel it is disrespectful?

Just to add in a quote of Carl Sagan's I read last night:

"Why should God be so clear in the Bible and so obscure in the world?"

Thanks Carl!

Yea there's nothing in there but rows and rows of teeth anyway

And yet your brother eats meat SORRY! OH GOD I COULDN'T RESIST IT!

Ah poops...

What do you think of the idea of a sprite that represents the entire FLC or GIF?

after watching that episode of bullshit I was HYPER-AWARE of my junk for like 2 months... Ever step, every crouch, every time my cat jumped in my lap... Thanks Penn and Teller!

The Ivy, that also adds to it. People don't actually think about their arguement. They just say "2 men can't raise a baby! the baby needs a woman!" but no one forces a single father to get married to a woman so the baby "grows up ok". I wish they'd try to pass that bill so it could be hammered back faster than.. jello shots at an after prom party?

Apologies.

It's all fear isn't it? People are afraid of sex [speaking as a USAer] even though the west is looked upon as sexually liberated. People are still deathly afraid of sex. Not really personal sex but what other people are doing. My saying that isn't anything new obviously but I find it funny when people consider themselves as sexually liberated but are still afraid of gay people.

Personally I am heartened by the fact that societies change and now it's not really a big deal with a black dude wanting to marry a white chick, at least in non-retarded places like the american south. Eventually people will be fine with gay marriage and we'll move on to hating genetically modified people marrying normal people, or aliens marrying our daughters!

The hindsight people fail to have is amazing. Look back at how stupid Americans were when it came to segregation and then look at the present at what you're doing to another class or people and realize "Oh yea, I might really regret this later..."

I would like to read a source for your billions of dollars for gay people claim, please?

Before people start freaking out of google stealing your internet through Gmail I just want to say that I also love gmail.

edit: DAMMIT

I'm just curious if anyone who uses yahoo or hotmail really enjoys having all those ads and headlines from MSN stories all over the place, or a constant button to check my credit score on yahoo?

Google is just so simple and nice.

Orator, I don't find an entire document worth it for an amateur game, personally. I usually write all my ideas out no matter the order, then a timeline, then sketch room ideas and character ideas and then just start.

I make sure I have a timeline first though because if I get confused how things are going to flow I just break down and can't continue.

No one told Rharpe to leave. He wasn't banned. I also believe he more moved on to his own website than he felt he had to leave here but I might be wrong.

I'm not going to follow SteelDrummer around and post attacking him on other threads. If he asks for art crit and I feel I have something to say to help I'm not going to dig into him for being religious also.

Someone choosing to stay silent on their beliefs because they're afraid of being judged on them isn't something only the religious have to deal with. SteelDrummer probably thinks I'm an amoral jerk who has no basis in reality and would never seek me out as a person if he ever needed anything because of my atheism. He took a stand and let everyone know what he feels, so did I. I'm sure there are other people who read what I wrote and draw the conclusion that I have no idea what I'm talking about and now regard me as an idiot who is going to hell. If this community were slightly different maybe I'd feel ostracised and I'd feel like I had to leave.

Anyway, I agree that the thread is moving too fast. I think atheists want more than anything [sometimes] to talk about religion because it's looked at as something you just don't question of someone else "Oh never question someone's faith!" so when given the chance things tend to go a bit quick.

Like I said, I'm so much more interested in people's growth away from God than what steeldrummer believes but I feel that's a pointless redirection of this thread now.

Don't tell me you're trying to prove the existance of god through Bob Marley?

Also, you really have no idea how the science works, and that's ok. No one ever taught it to you probably. But if you have no desire to learn then you have no ability to speak on the subject so I'd stop.

And saying god doesn't exist is not bashing.

People who believe in UFOs are also constantly "bashed" by real scientists, does that mean UFOs are real? How about White Supremecists? They're always being bashed for being wrong.

Anyway, I'm mostly interested in other people's growth out of religion, any other stories?

quick reply to Orator:

Can I reject the silly idea of perfect enlightenment and being tempted by demons?

So what do you believe? Random creatures evolving from primordial ooze after a random bang that happened in the universe?

Evolution and natural selection is not random and the only people who say it is are religious people trying to disprove it. You don't understand the science behind it, sorry.

It baffles me how quick you people are to reject God and Jesus Christ. Why not reject Allah? Buddha? Shiva? Guru Nanak?  

I reject God, Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Thor, Zeus, Loki, Shiva, Guru Nanak, The Dalai Llama, Sylvia Browne, Pat Robertson, Deepak Chopra, anything that was on the old TV show In Search Of, ghosts, the supernatural, the holy spirit, the resurrection, the transubstantiation, a soul, sin, uh... Baal? Anything else you want me to reject?

And who said anything about quick? You say it as if I haven't given any thought to religion or the supernatural. I've thought long and hard about it and I realize [not believe] that it's all crap and useless to me.

Islam kills itself off with blatant contradictions.

I'm not, and I hope no one else does, going to get into a "oh yea? the bible says this terrible thing!" "Oh yea, Islam says this terrible thing!" because it's pointless. It'd go one forever and you don't care.

Jesus did not die for me either. If he did I never asked him to. I also never asked this supposed God to create me. Maybe I was happier not being created. Maybe I was nothing not being created and if I was nothing than I was neither sad or happy so what's the point of creating me? If I gave someone out of the goodness of my heart 20 bucks and they turned around and bought me something with it I'd be pissed. If I gave someone 20 bucks and told them that the only thing they can do with that money is buy me something, I'd hope they'd give it right back and tell me to piss off.

Opening up a church and letting them in is great, but that doesn't grant them salvation.

Basically what you want to do is bring a homeless person in, give them something to eat, give them a shower, maybe a new pair of pants and then say "Oh by the way, you will burn in hell for all eternity unless you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior." Holy shit like their life isn't bad enough!

If you believe that their life is terrible but their AFTERLIFE is what you're more worried about, why don't you go to Iraq and try converting people there? You go, maybe you'll convert some people and you'll probably die. You die, you go to heaven. Not a big deal is it? I'm always confused why deeply religious people aren't out in war torn areas all the time running into mine fields to save children, taking bullets for doctors trying to remove shrapnel from a soldiers head or any other heroic action. If you die you go to heaven! AWESOME! You did some good for the world and now you're in heaven, right?

Also, why do religious people cry at funerals of loved ones?

I am a very happy human being. I am an animal brought about by natural selection and evolution who has a super girlfriend for 6 or so years, a family that loves me, a job that I love, a cat that explodes with cuteness, an apartment to live in, enough money to more than get by and the only thing that scares me is losing my harddrive in a crash. I'm not afraid of the bogeyman or ghosts or sin or the devil. Humans have a fear of the unknown, sure, but not a fear of make believe.

My life is great but I don't think a true believer will ever accept that.

7th Day Adventurist? What do you think of the 7 Days series?

Jess and I have a common desire that churches [when not being used for mass prayer] should be houses for the homeless. You've got this huge building that pays no taxes just sitting there being useless most of the day why not open the doors and let homeless people stay in each and every one of them! I think churches in NYC go so far as allowing homeless people to sleep on their steps.

It's like Dawkins said in that video, Raggit. You are athiestic towards Thor and Allah and all that. You know what it's like to not believe in something already, to be totally confused as to why someone would believe in something, it just needs to be extended a tiny bit. Easier written on a forum then done!

Anyway, I strongly recommend the Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast. Hopefully you can appreciate their humor but the host and president of the New England Skeptical Society Steve Novella is an academic neurologist on full-time faculty at Yale University School of Medicine. So when he talks about the brain, he knows what he says! They talk a lot about pseudoscience but sometimes they talk about things like how people with epillepsy in certain parts of the brain are hyper-religious [raising the question, are humans hard wired to create faith?] and how one can induce near death experiences on a medical table without killing anyone. I wish I could point you to a specific podcast but they have over 90 of them and the newer ones are better than the older especially after getting Rebecca Watson in on it.

Randi.org is another place I frequent, again it's mostly about pseudoscience but there's so much there about everything that it's worth it. Check out his investigations into Peter Popoff and other faith healers.

Letter to a Christian Nation by Sam Harris was good, sort of a primer to The End of Faith if you don't feel like reading an entire book...

The God Delusion by Dawkins is something I just finished up on. If you read up on Cargo Cults that might help put things in perspective too. Entire religions springing up seemingly out of no where with outrageous beliefs and customs all within the last 40 years! Amazing!

If you ever do give Dawkins a chance and you find yourself flinching at his frank demeanor, think back to any time you've heard a fundementalist say so and so was going to hell for all eternity because they hold a seperate belief.. That's insulting.

256 Colour mode! I still use it! I think I'm the only one!

Anyway I'm curious if it would be possible at all to allow pasting over sprites from clipboard in the sprite manager like you can in the other modes. I usually import all my animations using FLCs and sometimes my animations get up into 13 or 14 frames, if I have to change something in say a death animation I'd have to import the animation again, replace the view slots with the new animation and then delete the old sprites. I'd love to just be able to copy and paste the new art right on top of the old sprites.

Or, as a random thought, you import a FLC and it gives you all the frames as individual sprites but there is also a sprite that represents the entire FLC... If that makes sense. So if I import over that it updates all the sprites associated with the representation... Or, ya know, just clipboard paste would be great.

I figured since you were updating the editor anyway you might take pity on a poor 8bit robot and look into it.

Thanks!

Eric