Messages

Ben Affleck

Seconded wholeheartedly.

What is with that guy? I've never liked him. Which is why I like that in Mallrats he gets arrested for statutory rape and in Dogma his head explodes.

Yes. I hate Robert Plant. He looks like cauliflower, sings like a dying harpy and he writes stupid lyrics.

whoopsie

* LilGryphMaster deletes games and links

Oh man! LGM downloaded stuff from The Underdogs! I'm calling the feds!!

Deleting stuff won't help! They can find it even if you've deleted it!!

Actually, I think I read somewhere that Lucas Arts isn't allowed to produce LOOM on cd and I'm pretty sure they don't sell the floppy version on their website, so your only hope would probably be either Ebay (I've seen some copies there, I believe) or, unfortunately, abandonware sites. Someone who knows more about the situation could probably tell you more, though.

Okay, so I kind of cheated by resizing a self portrait I made the other day...But it still works!

Oh no! Now Grundi's gonna get flooded with requests. "Prank call me!" "No, me!" "I want Chris Jones to make a joke about Prince Albert!"

I think Strong Bad used it once...

Sorry, I just had to back this up, & show my true Homestar Runner nerdiness:

VOIP!

Please, continue....

Sorry to keep keepin' this topic off topic, but that's what I was alluding to!

That Richard Green, man. What a rube!

'VoIP' sounds like an onomatopoeia for someone getting zapped by a ray gun!

Esseb and Las are bastards.

I hate Boyd.

Oh wait, I mean, I hate Boyd because he insulted Cthulu.

That play rules.

Back on topic, try here, Yufster: http://www.maxhelp.com/ They have some starter tutorials that might be helpful, as well as some advanced ones if you get bored with the beginner ones.

Typical misinformation and sarcasm.

Misinformation? Look, I was just making an example. If you were a boss at a company and you used Blender (woe for me to say you'd use anything else) and someone came in to work for you and they had no idea how to use the interface, would you spend your resources to train them to use it or would you hire someone who already knew how to use Blender? Think about it before you get pissed off at me for no reason yet again.

Shbaz, seriously, you are taking this all WAAAAAAAY too seriously. Unless you, like, MADE Blender, or invested a lot of money in the creation of it or something, you should really think about not reacting as if we were talking about your first born child or something. Lighten up.

Pesty you should stop being a giant insect - it kind of freaks me out.

Mr. Frisby, you should realize that that is not me in my avatar. That is Sir George (pronounced Hor-hey) Fredrico El Fancypance the Third, Man About Town.

Electric Monk, you should OPENLY worship Cthulu. It offends the elder god to do it in secret!

Look, I'm sure Blender is great, But we're getting WAY off topic. This post isn't 'Let's all argue about piracy and which program is better', it's 'let's give yufster some tutorials'. If she hadn't hinted at the fact that she got her program illegally, this post would've died off after people gave her good resources. Which people have done. Now, I'm not trying to be a mod or anything, but maybe someone should start a new post that is actually about what you're all arguing about and let this one either die off or get locked, so that people who are actually looking for 3D Studio Max tutorials won't get confused.

I didn't learn a damn thing. The version we were using was an outdated educational version that lacked many of the functions of the professional version. The books we had to use were for an even older, more outdated version of the program. The teacher didn't really teach us, because he had another class at the exact same time (mainly because there were only 4 of us in the 3D Studio Max class). The computers in the particular building don't have internet access, so using online tutorials was out of the question unless I printed them out from home or something. If I were to try and use the program now, I'd have to teach myself how to really use it, and I would probably have to use online tutorials. And, yes, I would have to use a pirated version of it.

Sounds like your reputable technical school just wasn't so great to me.. My school had internet access in every building no matter what they taught there and all of the programs were the very latest there were. I would suspect that most "reputable high-quality" schools wouldn't have any situation like that at all, because I've seen results from students of art schools at CGTalk and the results were quite nice. You're wailing on anti-piracy because of a fault in your education.

As for the Blender argument, sure some companies may be using it now, but most still use 3ds. Let's say someone learns Blender's interface and become top 3d modeller supreme! Let's say this person goes into a job interview. "I see you know Blender. We use 3D Studio Max....

Nonsense, I know of Maya users hired in 3DS studios and all other combinations. If the final result is the same and doesn't take any longer, they're not going to give a damn. 3D modelling is the same in every program, with different key combinations and additional/less features. The better artist gets hired, because that's what really matters.

Where did I say anything about Maya? Where did 'wail on anti-piracy'? Listen, I'm just saying that education isn't ALWAYS the best option. I'm just trying to help you understand a couple of the greys instead of the black and white you're trying to argue with. To be honest, I don't like piracy (of the software kind, of course). I don't pirate. All of the programs I have I own, except for a couple very hard to get games and such that I delete after I play. I, personally, am anti-piracy. But that doesn't mean I can't see both sides of the issue. And that doesn't mean I have the right to yell at everyone who DOES pirate.

Let me tell you all a little story. Maybe it will shut you all up. This would be a good thing.

I am going to college. My parents pay for my tuition out of pocket. Not because they are rich, but because they want to. At this college, which is a very nice college that is mostly a techical school, I took a class that was ALL about 3D Studio Max. It was the only thing we used. I took two semesters of this class.

And I didn't learn a damn thing. The version we were using was an outdated educational version that lacked many of the functions of the professional version. The books we had to use were for an even older, more outdated version of the program. The teacher didn't really teach us, because he had another class at the exact same time (mainly because there were only 4 of us in the 3D Studio Max class). The computers in the particular building don't have internet access, so using online tutorials was out of the question unless I printed them out from home or something. If I were to try and use the program now, I'd have to teach myself how to really use it, and I would probably have to use online tutorials. And, yes, I would have to use a pirated version of it.

The point of the story is that going to college to learn something isn't always the best option. I would've prefered a clean start with a pirated version than what I got at school.

Now, all of you 'OMG you shudn't pirate' people should ease off a bit. Yelling at everyone from your pulpit won't change the fact that they're going to do it. You can state your opinion, of course, but don't shove it down the throat of people who disagree, because it's like walking in quicksand. The harder you push, the quicker you're going to sink.

As for the Blender argument, sure some companies may be using it now, but most still use 3ds. Let's say someone learns Blender's interface and become top 3d modeller supreme! Let's say this person goes into a job interview. "I see you know Blender. We use 3D Studio Max. If you want to work here, you'd better learn the interface." This someone declares, "But I am so used to Blender! And it does just the same stuff as your expensive program!" Let's say someone else comes in to interview with the same company at a later date. "Yes, I do know 3D Studio Max," This elseperson says. "I am well versed in the interface." Now, if you were the company, who would you chose? The person who would have to learn a whole new interface and program, or the person who already knows the interface and program?

The More You Know!

So... whats the current expected Mitteneers for this year? And who else is still wondering about coming?

I am still wondering. Things are not looking good in Pesty-going-to-Mittensland, though. Here's hoping!