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Hey! Tex Murphy! Man, I used to LOVE those games. Thanks for sharing this, Doctor.

markbilly,

Those are perfectly reasonable reasons for not wanting to include your game in the bundle. If you have another little morsel of gaming delight, we'd love to have in the bake sale. But if not, then no hard feelings. 

We don't want the bundle to grow so large that it becomes unmanageable, true. And ddq's point about it appearing to be shovelware if a hundred games are all clumped together is a valid one.

That being said, however, several people have already expressed interest (either in one of the threads or in PMs) and started making games. I can't tell those people to stop. It wouldn't be fair.

So if you're already in, keep baking. If you haven't joined up but were thinking about it, why not hold on to that good idea and be a part of the next bake sale in the summer (or possibly next Christmas. We still haven't decided).

I'm pretty sure this won't be the only event we hold, so there's plenty of time to join the next one (or the one after that!   ).

Thanks for all your support, everyone. It means a lot to us.  

I seemed to have thoroughly pissed some people off with my "demands" that I be included in this. AGS is something I am passionate about. I will be baking a game. Include it or don't. Sorry for stepping on everyone's toes.

We're glad to have you aboard, Monkey. Now hurry up and make a game! 

I am also still psyched and working on my game. Even if we're not saving AGS as we thought we would.

Hey, it's not for a lack of trying. We wanted to save AGS, but to everyone's surprise, it turns out doesn't need to be saved. All it needs is a new deputy. 

Child's Play? The guys at Penny Arcade are doing great things with this.

An awesome idea. 

I agree. I think we should pick a charity. 

Just as a sidenote, my father works for St. Jude in their finance department and I know that any amount we donate wouldn't be a drop in the bucket of corporate donations and insurance funds they get. So while no one loves St. Jude more than me, (my dad's also a cancer survivor himself), it may not be the best target of a  $500-5,000 donation, though I could ask him about it. Child's Play is one that I'm partial to mainly because it's well-known to gamers and a cause that's close to many of their hearts. But I'm totally up for other charitable organizations.

Actually, child's play is a good idea.

But are you telling me that the money I give to St Judes every year goes completely unnoticed? I has a sad.  :'(

Nothing like the American gang accent; to me anyway.

We have the best gangsters in the western world! It's an odd thing to be proud of, but there you are.  8)

Okay. A lot of good points in that uber post / manifesto (I hope you're not writing that from a tar paper shack )

* I agree we need to firmly establish a new vision for the bake sale. Why are we baking? We're working as fast as we can on that and once we get the required information from Dave, CJ, and a few others, we'll have a good idea at what we're looking at and what we can and can't accomplish.

* We probably need to set a cap on the number people working. At one point, someone (Cat, maybe? I don't remember), suggested 24. I can support that. We don't want the bundle getting so big that it becomes impossible to manage. If you want to consider the "open call for bakers" to be at an end, I can certainly understand why you feel that way. If we have too many games a'bakin' then we can just bump the later joiners to a summer bake sale or something. I'm confident there are several way to resolve this.

* Dave is going to handle the money (at least, I think that's right. Dave? Am I off the mark here?). I have total faith in his ability to handle the money (somebody has to), ensuring that it goes where it's supposed to and not into a hotel room filled with hookers and coke. (Again, Dave? Am I off the mark here? )

*I can see where you're coming from with this place and our love of freeware. But I have more faith in the AGS community than that. We're not asking for a lot for the bundle. If a hundred people each pay ten bucks (I plan to may a lot more than that), that's still a thousand bucks. If two hundred do, then we've raised two thousand. I have faith that not everyone here is a cheapskate. If this is done for us, by us, then I think a lot of these nice people will step up and cough up a little cash to help us help them.

* I'm for giving a chunk to charity too. I prefer St. Judes, myself. But we're still working that out. I'm for giving a chunk to Peder and his archives. He pays for that out of his pocket, you know. I also support porting AGS to Mac or HTML5. We're still working on that and we've asked CJ to weigh in and tell us what he would like to do with the money since we were raising it for him originally. As soon as we hear from him, we'll have a much clearer view of things.

* I freely admit I'm being pulled to my limits. I have a day job and I volunteer several evenings a week. Ben, Darth, and Dave are all working hard to explore our options, look at the legal obligations, and get the word out to the interwebs. They're also helping to take a lot of the burden off me and keep everyone connected. None of us are getting paid to do this, ddq. And none of us expect to be. We're doing the best we can, man. Cut us just a little bit of slack, okay? We're working as fast as we can. 

Thank you for the feedback, ddq. I welcome your advice and remind you that there's always a seat for you in the bat cave.

- Ponch

Thanks for the well wishes, guys! We're working very hard, I can assure you and it's nice to be appreciated. 

But then we might as well give all the prize money to Theo and Ben304.

As for the rest, I'm just doing my best to make everybody happy. I'm not having much luck, but I'm trying. 

re: ponch, he don't do that. keep messing with him and he'll dun goof you up.

It'll be okay. ddq and I have Oceanspirit Dennised together back in the day. That makes us OSD brothers. And that's a sacred bond, baby.  8)

re: everything - I disagree.

re: your post - Could you elaborate? 

An idea that being tossed around right now is something like this: We host the bake sale for a month and all the games go into one bundle. All the money raised from the sale goes into the charity bowl. Once the bake sale is over, maybe the individual games go on sale separately and each author gets whatever money his game makes in sales for the next year, or until after the next bake sale (assuming there is one). After that, the game reverts to the owner and they can either keep it up for sale or take it home and stick it in their sock drawer or whatever it is you do with your games.

It's just a thought, but that might help put everyone's mind at ease. 

But sure, if the point is charity for the sake of charity... as you wish, ladies and gentlemen.

That's my favorite kind of charity! 

Oh, sorry am I too distracting with my meaningless suggestions? Sorry, boss, I thought people who take part in it were allowed to actually discuss what their efforts will yield. My bad.

That's now how I meant that, Nemo. Sorry if it came across the wrong way.  :'(

The original point of putting together the bake sale was to be a charity event. And that's still the goal. If we want to do something else down the road, something more profit driven, that's fine. But the bake sale was to be a fundraiser to help the AGS community, and that's still very much what I'd like to do with it. 

I'm busy with Ms. PacMan right now, call later, Ponch.

You snooze, you lose, Ghost. Someone else is going to walk away with that Russian bride if you're not careful.

Also, I really like that "twelve days of Halloween" thing you have going on in you signature. I'm curious to see what you're going to add tomorrow.

I'm all for a "humble blue cup bundle"* or something down the road. But at the moment, this is all about helping the AGS community and not for personal gain.

Let's focus on having the bake sale, then we can throw bucket loads of money at CJ or Peder or whoever, improve the AGS engine (either with new features or a proper port), and buy a Russian bride for someone. Monkey_05_06, are you lonely? Ghost? Dualnames? Who needs a new bride?  


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EDIT: Ooh! Or "Blue Cup Bazaar"! I think that has a certain ring to it! 

There will always be worthy causes to raise money for, right? Right!

Like paying for the AGS Archives server hehe.

Actually, we've been discussing that very thing!