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#261
Since i'm going to be out most of the day, today I did as much as I could last night. Not particularly happy with it but all-in-all I'm pretty surprised it looks as decent as it does!

I won't hold up the competition in the name of perfection, so ON WITH WITH THE SHOW!



The idea is that it's a room in the game world of this image:



Original pic is by Pinback for the four seasons comp
#262
I FORGOT!

I'll put something together right now!
#263
Quote from: Phemar on Mon 22/03/2010 20:59:02
Eww. This topic is all rigor mortis and stuff.

Gross :P

*takes pants off*

Colder than deli meats... just how I like 'em.
#264
Calin,

I think the argument you're trying to make is that people that find young children sexually attractive must be treated inherently neutral, like all human beings, until their actions define their value as a human. You cannot say someone is evil JUST because they find children attractive, there is no justification for the label.

The problem with this argument is restraint. Pedophiles are the individuals whom lack restraint, if they didn't lack restraint there would be no basis for labeling them. If nobody knows that your Vampire is sucking blood does that not mean that he is killing people? He lacks the restraint to NOT suck blood and regardless of any other fact he is THEREFORE a villain.

The same applies for any addiction that compels people. Coke-heads aren't necessarily "EVIL" but they are social deviants, and they commit heinous and devastating acts that destroy the lives of thousands of people. However, someone who can excessive restraint, who can resist their compulsion is a hero, a champion.

The compulsion itself doesn't determine if someone is a villain or not, instead it is whether or not they ACT on their compulsion. I believe that if someone is a "pedophile," they have acted on their compulsion. Otherwise they would just be an individual with an extremely divergent fetish.

It is our ability to determine right and wrong and act accordingly that allows society to label us "evil" or not. SO, is your vampire evil? No. Is he evil if he drinks someones blood and they die? Yes. It is his actions that define him, not his addiction.
#266
Looking for a coder that can put together the assets I built for an hour game. I've got everything done: animations, puzzles, sprites, background.

It's a one room type affair and it's very short. Since I have more time than one hour I might add a few more animations but over all I'm pretty much done with everything BESIDES coding.

PM me if you're interested! I'll be out of the house most of the day 03/22 and 03/23 so give me a little bit to respond.  Thanks in advance for any help!
#267
Was just playing some and I realized that I really like the GUI...
#268
Why do you want this so bad? (Just curious.)
#269
Quote from: Sinsin on Sun 21/03/2010 13:21:53
Well Its good, but its not good enough.
I'm not impressed with the monsters and how they are based on each other, (at least 7,8,9,10,10-2 didnt copy the same basic structure of an enemy and just recolour it. The cheeky gets )
The weapons upgrade system is poo
The story is so complex at the beginning, I was wondering if it would be one of those games that i would never understand.
I hate how the most annoying Character has to be the best at Magic

I kinda regret bringing this subject up now
FF14 is to be an MMORPG so I am probably gonna be getting off the FF train after i have 100% this one (which will probably be in about 200hrs of gameplay

Wasn't FF11 an MMORPG, too?

The Best were 7 and 9, IMO
#270
Quote from: Mr. Matti on Sun 21/03/2010 05:44:30
I'll try and come up with something within the next days.. the topic is just too good and I wonder why there's only one entry yet.

A little thing I like to call Intimidation... You will be receiving a PM shortly Mr.Matti.


MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
#271
Quote from: Scarab on Sun 21/03/2010 05:03:45
I tried to stay up this week, I tried.
But I was defeated by my bloody timezone once more. (maybe next week we can bring it forward 3-4 hours?)

Anyways, good entries this week, my vote goes to Magma42

Peace
Scarab

How would 1600 GMT work for you? That means it would be 12am where you're at/12pm EST

But that means that it would be 9AM for anyone PST... and God knows what time it would be where Babar is...
#272
Critics' Lounge / Re: Sprite
Sat 20/03/2010 20:28:47
Prog, did you photoshop that color change, or is that your work? ...doesn't look like your style but I'm curious.
#273
Quote from: Ali on Sat 20/03/2010 18:37:44
The term was coined by film critics in reference to films, not detective novels. And many great film noirs are as edgy as American cinema of the period got (Lang's The Big Heat, or Welles's Touch of Evil).

I didn't mean to imply they weren't edgy but with Pulp Noir alot of emotions and internal dialogue was implied. When developing pulp/noir films the need for exposition gave birth to a more "prosey" form of the genre. The radio and production that I classify as "Film Noir Style" lived and died by dialogue, it's inherent in their format, whereas literature has the benefit of a floating narrative, these productions needed the narrative to be verbalized and so (to me at least) the characters developed a distinctly unique style.

These aren't official designations either, rather they are observations that I have never put into words before and so that post was quite stream-of-consciousness.

I'm really interested to get some recommendations on "Gothic Novels" now that I'm hearing about the style. I've never READ Frankenstein, though I have read Dracula and Dorian Grey...

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#274
If I could figure out which way was up in under an hour you guys would've had to deal with

THIS


That's right boys... Ohhhhh Yeah.

DLing now...
#275
Agreed Snarky. I"m a huge Noir fan and I've found three distinct types of work classified as "Noir."  My favorite is "Pulp Noir," which is what Snarky is referring to and what inspired the others. Pulp Noir is from $.02 comics and the back of publication for 14-20(ish) year old males. Pumped full of sexism, machismo, action and all things despicable and badass. The writing was minimal (which made it even harder edged) and the only things that adjectives THOUGHT about touching were the things that matter to 14-20 year old males. Fights, babes and brawls.

Here's an excerpt from a Dan Turner story:

Quote
EXCEPT for the maid who let me in, Leneta Leonard
was alone in the house. She was a cute little trickâ€"
all curves and delicious contours. She had on a pair of
sheer pajamas that didn’t hide a thing! When she stood
between me and a window I got a good squint at the
prettiest pair of legs I’d seen in a blue moon.
I told her: “I’m Dan Turner. Your friend Jackman
was in to see me today.”
She nodded listlessly. “He phoned and told me. He
told me about that letter you received this morning.”
I shot a question at her. “When was the last time
you paid blackmail, and how did it happen!”

Note: "I told her" and "She nodded listlessly" as opposed to; "The words floated out of her mouth like butterflys, I couldn't tear my eyes off her lips, glimmering like like the stars reflected in her eyes."

The second form of Noir (and the style I think that has informed the structure of McCarthy) is "Film Noir," which ironically doesn't exist ONLY in films. It has become a style. It is epitomized by the early Noir films like the Maltese Falcon and The Big Combo. It's rather flowy and less razor edged than Pulp Noir, mainly because it was trying to appeal to a broader audience. It's the love child of early films like Casablanca and Pulp Noir. I feel like Calin drew from this genre more than any others in the Noir spectrum. I haven't read too many gothic literature but I can imagine that where you to mix Film Noir and Portrait of Dorian Gray, you would get something similar to McCarthy.

The final bit of Noir is Modern Noir. Modern Noir is anything gritty and dark. It's the the black and the gray, with maybe only a glimmer of the white of things. It's anything related to grime and societies underbelly. It is the distillation and oversimplification of Pulp Noir. None of the style, hardly any substance.

Here's a scene played out in the different styles:

Pulp Noir

"I ran. Hard. I could hear that old jack panting behind me, wearing out. I dive and spin, crashing headfirst through a bush. Bastard passes me, I pull out my Iron and swing- BANG! He trips. No need to rush, so I take my time, he can wait. His skin sizzles when I put the still smoking barrel against his temple:

I stare him down, always look in a mans eyes when you're trying to intimidate him,
'Burke- I want to know where he is.'

He manages to fumble out,
'I don't know! I never knew, he just--'

I stick the barrel in his mouth and cock the hammer. I give it a moment so he can taste the smoke, smoke off his sizzling skin.

'Game time is over. If you want to use that leg again, you're going to need me to call an ambulance pretty quick. If you want to keep on breathing you need to make me happy alot quicker. Now, GIVE ME SOMETHING!'

'Goldfedstein! His lawyer, he always knows where Burke is! Penthouse 1321 at the Harlequin Building!'

BANG! No need to call an ambulance for the wicked."


Film Noir

"I ran. Hard. I could hear that dirtbag panting behind me; now is my chance. I dive into a bush. Bastard passes me, they don't make 'em like they used to. I line Betty up for a shot, hold it- BANG! He drops like a god damn piano fell on him. I take my time, let him think he is going to bleed to death, alone in the woods. His skin sizzles when Betty gives him a kiss on his temple, the smell is sublime- it makes me want to vomit and laugh at the same time.

I look into his pupils, you can always tell a liar by their pupils.
'Burke- I want to know where he is.'

He's trembling but manages to stutter,
'I don't know! I never knew, he just--'

I let Betty kiss him, French Style. I cock the hammer and give him a moment to taste his smoking skin. Nothing scares a man like a the sound of a bullet being chambered rattling around in in his head. Scum like this worthless shit are crawling all over my god damned city.

'Game time is over. If you want to use that leg again, you're going to need me to call an ambulance pretty quickly, and If you want to keep on breathing you're going to need to make me happy alot quicker. You don't know where Burke is? Fine, tell me who does.'

'Goldfedstein! His lawyer, he always knows where Burke is! Penthouse 1321 at the Harlequin Building!'

Betty gives him a long hard kiss and he's out cold, I should grease this slimeball. My legs are killing me, running's not my type of game, I wheeze my way back to the car and take off to find that son-of a bitch, Burke."


Modern Noir

"Seven. Eight. Nine. Click- Click- Empty clip. I standup; he's fumbling for another clip. BANG! Shoulder shot... not where I was aiming but it'll do. He's practically sobbing when I kick him, He's definitely sobbing when I slam his face into the cement.

Finally, he's waking up. It must be 40 degrees in here and he's covered in blood, how can you sleep in conditions like that?

"Good morning sleepyhead."

I spark on my blowtorch-"



I'm not a writer, but I tried my best to illustrate the concepts outline above... I think you get the idea. Ultimately I think you can classify McCC as Noir but it's definitely not a "by-the-book" interpretation, instead it's an homage that takes established character traits into a new direction.
#276
OMFG! SUBLIMINAL WALLYS!!!!
#277
Quote from: auriond on Sat 20/03/2010 05:21:37
It's the film noir "hard-boiled detective" style. McCarthy follows this trope very faithfully, right down to the "narrative technique of introducing a central character after his death". I don't know if Calin meant to take it over the top, but I saw McCarthy as a slight exaggeration of everything that makes the film noir genre.

Well it's a similar style to Pulp Noir narratives but Calin Foliageshadow pulled some pretty esoteric crap out of his ass. =P  It makes it unique though...
#278
General Discussion / Re: March Madness Anyone?
Sat 20/03/2010 07:58:01
Details?
#279
Quote from: Sinsin on Mon 08/03/2010 17:14:55
So here's a question

A 16 year old guy is in a relationship with a 15 year old girl   or indeed visa versa

They end up having awesome sessions in every room possible,
Anyone see a problem here ?

If so Where ?

I think I missed an opportunity. Allow me to time travel and respond to this post:



I SEE A PROBLEM HERE AND I'LL TELL YOU WHERE! ...I just cleaned that god DAMNED kitchen... If the so much as BREATHE ON THE GLASS, there will be hell to pay...


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Proceed with the thread-
#280
I like that fact that you highlighted him AND gave us a colored arrow! lol
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