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Just a minor issue that was giving me a little trouble for a couple days.  The drop down menu at the top of the script is incredibly useful for me, but the other day, it stopped recognizing functions beyond script line 10,000 and I couldn't figure out why.  I thought it might have been an issue with scripts longer than 10,000 lines, but then I figured out that in the function around that line, I had an un-terminated bracket in a comment block.  Something like:

/*
blah blah blah
function something(){
*/

Simply closing that bracket made the whole thing work again, but it was giving me a headache for a while.  It seems like the editor should avoid comment blocks when making the function name list.  Terribly minor, but just pointing it out!

Jaw, meet floor.  You guys do remember that you were working on a game, too right? 

If we're giving Emerald a nickname, might I suggest "Hemorrhald"?

And a sound/music control overhaul!

Best to PM him and find out.

And I asked to be at the end! 

Perhaps next time, bribes are in order.

I've been big buddies with Nik ever since we started Linus.  Ivy and I are really good friends since Spooks.  Cameron and I chat all the time about games and whatever.  Shane's great to chat with, although we're almost always talking business.  I also have the occasional chat with Dave Gilbert, Kinoko, and AGS which is always a delight.

I think if I had a chance, I would love to go to a Brittens or Mittens.  I'd love to meet just about everybody I've met 'round these parts.  Well... maybe not everybody... 

In the interest of getting this completed, I'm PMing Pixelperfect to ask him to send the story without his modifications on to Jon (as per Emerald's fine suggestion), who has been active in the forums and hopefully will get B-1 movin'.

Hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes.

Jon, you're still with us, right?

I've got to agree with ProgZ as well. 

Bicilotti, this post isn't addressed to you, as I think your game certainly fits their rules and as such you should definitely enter it!  Plus, your game looks amazing and I can't wait to play it!

But on the topic of game creation challenges like this, I do think that they should only accept games that were specifically started for the competition to promote fairness among all entries.  Obviously, the authors would have to be on an honor system, because there's no way to verify that a game was made entirely within the timeline.

As for OROW, was that really a reason that it died?  I never caught wind of any accusations of people using more than the allotted time.  Some of the winning entries were pretty incredible on any timeline, though, and so I could see how there might be suspicion.  But I always just took everyone's word.  I was really proud of what I accomplished for OROW in a week (a week of no sleep!) and if it had been beaten by something that someone had spent two months on, I'd have been understandably upset.  I still hope the OROW comes back some time.  I'd even host it myself.

I don't know if anyone has bothered to PM Antonio (he thought he was done and had passed it on) or Eggie (he seems to not have noticed that he has it, maybe it got caught in the spam filter as .rtf files are wont to do) so I've gone ahead and PMed them both.

We'll see if Eggie can write his bit and send it on before Antonio skips him.  Otherwise, on to Jon.

I'm in!

It should be pointed out that no one should read that thread unless you're into spoilers on DITR's ending.  If I had read that thread before playing the game I'd have been robbed of a nice "Whoah!" moment.  Everything I'm posting here has been sanitized, however.

Here ya go Nik.  Here's the remaining (pertinent) posts after your evil post:

Please reread my post - I did not delete any reference to the game. I deleted non-game political discussion. Please be clear about that.

No matter what the game's ending is: still that discussion should be limited to that ending and not the situation of [possible spoiler removed by Vince] and politics in different countries at present.

No I have not misinterpreted something. As stated - personal preference is my reason.

Do keep in mind, however, that I did start this thread, personally, pretty much with this in mind, as I consider it a serious subject and gameboomers is populated by mature people who can discuss such matters. Without being allowed to discuss this matters, there's non need for this thread really. All one can say is "wow! nice ending!", or "Wow1 I didn't expect that. I waited for the x to be nnn and so on". or whatever...

You stated that you purposely started the thread with that in mind rather than the quality of the game, the graphics, the puzzles, the music, the flawlessness - then I agree with you as you stated: there's non need for this thread really.

It does show that you deemed that the discussion of the game to lead to the breaking of the rules of GameBoomers.

Hi Mag,

this is a tricky situation as the very ending of the game and the after-ending comments do specifically refer to the present situations and the different views about the subject, hence the discussion about it. Moreover this thread was started as a commentary to DITR's ENDING specifically I think if I am not mistaken...I read as much in another DITR thread where Alkis asked whether a thread could be created to discuss the ending. I think this discussion is not more off topic than say a discussion about Mary Magdalene and Jesus (religion) would be in a GK3 discussion thread hehe. The very nature of the game's ending prompts this type of discussion, but I also understand the forum's wishes to limit the discussion to the game itself. In this case it is a very thin line...and I respect your wish to draw the link where you see it goes too much off topic.

Hi jedi --

GameBoomers is a place where we've found that discussing religion and politics is tricky enough that we simply avoid these topics. This would include avoiding a "he he" discussion of Mary Magdalene and Jesus.

There are other forums where you can talk about such controversial issues in a game -- Just Adventure has just such a forum.

We have a huge variety of gamers from all over the world, and many have political and religious sensibilities that can be wounded and they don't always speak up for themselves. We try to be proactive in keeping anything out that might offend those with various religious and political beliefs.

I hope everybody understands and helps us keep the forums friendly, nonpolitical and well, noncombative.

Hi Becky,

my hehe comment was not about the Mary Magdalene thematic but about the fact that games with large thematic lend themselves to wide discussions that sometimes go beyond the game. And if somebody has political or religious sensibilites that can be wounded, I think DITR is not a game for them or a game they would approach at all. I believe anyone who even enters the DITR ending discussion forum knows very well what will be discussed and the sensitivity of the thematic. Moreover our discussion was not combative at all so no harm done there \:\) My point was simply that some games ( and they are very few indeed) would be hard to discuss without dealing with the thematic. I think that to avoid any further discussion, you will have to close this specific thread as it is not the posters who are off topic but it is the very game which deals with a specific sensitive thematic. My two cents anyway \:\) I'll leave it to you to deal with this in the way you deem most appropriate. And thanks for the mention about the Just Adventure forum which I think Alkis and Nickolas might find interesting as they can start a new thread there if they so wish.

Thank you for your comments.

This thread has veered into topics that are not about the thread.
Yes - this topic is definitely closed.

I read the thread (I think it's the one that resulted in your banning), and I can't see anything that would warrant a banning.  Here's what I could see:


Nikolas: Hey, here's a thread where we can discuss all the spoilery details of DITR and it's awesome ending!

Everyone else: Yeah, that ending was cool.  Political implications of ending.  Personal relationship to political implications of ending.

Moderator: Hey!  Quit going off topic!  I'm deleting everything about politics!

Nikolas: Respectfully, as the thread starter, I don't think this is off topic.  In fact, this is what I intended the thread to be about: people's personal feelings about the ending of the game.

Moderator:  In that case, you've created a thread that breaks forum rules. (?) (Nikolas secretly banned without mention.)

Other Moderator: We don't like people to discuss things like religion or politics here.  Thread locked.


If that thread was breaking any forum rules, their forum rules must be pretty strict.  And in any case, perhaps a warning before an out right banning.

I've read GameBoomers threads a couple times (never signed up) and they always seemed like a nice place, so I'm just going to assume this is a case of one mod going a little off the rails.

Amazing support, and I havn't even bought the game yet!

Well, you had better buy it now, or I'm taking those 20 lines of code out! 

i k a r i: You can just stick some cash in an envelope and send it to me.  Actually, you'd better split it up and send some percentages to the other team members, too, because they're not getting paid enough for what they're doing!

This looks charming as hell.  I love the characters!  Keep up the good work!

[Disco:]

Disco: I'll only be living here for another four months, then it's back to the other side of the world (but making sure to stay as far away from those dirty Europeans as possible!)

Dixon: You made a very valid point about using a laptop, so so today I programmed in a Laptop Mode option. 

If you play in normal mode you have to click and drag to use inventory items or mess with your STM.  If you play in the new laptop mode, you just hold down the left mouse button for a second until you pick it up.  The icon will then lock to your cursor and you can let go of the mouse button.  Click again to drop it.  It should make playing on a laptop much easier!  Thanks for the idea!

Everybody else: Thanks for the encouragement and kind words.  I'm doing my best to make sure that it's a fine game and that you actually get to play it this century! 

Good interview!  Thanks for the name drop!

The interview is mostly stuff that the attentive AGS forumite already knows, but it should be good to help expose Wadjeteye to some outsiders.  Way to spread the word, Yesterday's Salad!

Oh, and NWAB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals 

I don't want to be a time nazi, either, but what's up with FSi?

How many straight men will admit to being flattered when hit on by another man?

Aww hell, that's easy.  I will.  When I was in college, my girlfriend at the time had a good friend who was a gay man.  He would openly say to my girlfriend how much in love with me he was and hit on me all the time.  I quite enjoyed the attention.  It certainly didn't make me worry if I was gay.  I wasn't attracted to him in the least.  But at least someone at the time was acting like they were attracted to me (my girlfriend certainly didn't...   ) and that felt good.

I've got to agree with Becky.  I've been asked if I was gay several times, mostly because I have several gay friends and lived with one gay friend for three years.  Being asked a legitimate question like "Are you gay?" in no way made me somehow less manly or more homosexual.

And the idea that some dude calling you gay will somehow diminish your ability to find a female mate...?  I just can't follow that.  I'd wager that any girl within earshot of someone freaking out upon being called gay would likely be more inclined to assume that your overreaction is due to your sexual insecurity and thus be less inclined to to doodle you.  If you simply called the person on being ignorant in thinking that "gay" is a derogatory term, and shrugged off any further insults from the Neanderthal, I'd figure your stock would go up.

Ladies?  Confirmation?