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Um, no, Eric, I'm sorry, but it was always burnin' since the world's been turnin'.

Stranger: read my post again. "If I were the Devil", I said, not "If I were Jesus." Jesus didn't start the church that exists today.

I have one more thing to say before I bow out myself. Keeping with the original spirit of this post...

If I were the Devil, I would start a powerful worldwide religious organization and rule men's hearts and mind through it.

If I were the Devil, I would have that world religion take most of its inspiration from pagan and heathen origin and disguise it as religious iconolatry.

If I were the devil, I would take all the attention off God and put it on light, fluffy things like being nice to everybody and overmoralizing things to the point where I balk at outhouses being displayed on television.

If I were the Devil, I would set up men that say they are the representation of God on earth. Only these people have the right to say what is right or wrong. Only these people have the right to translate Scripture. Only these men have the right to bugger boys without being questioned. And why? Because they said so...

If I were the devil, I would spend more time doing this then worrying about what the hell was on TV.

If I were the Devil, I would put rigorous opposition in the way of any who questioned my powerhouse religion, even when they were wrong. People claiming that the earth is round or that God doesn't want our money are put to death or branded hereticks. Anyone attempting to ruin my doctrine by properly translating the word "baptidzo" (to immerse in water) will be instantly killed, and I'll just make up the name "baptism" and let it continue to mean "the sprinkling of an infant," which carries on into the next thing I'd do:

If I were the Devil, this religion wouldn't be based on choice... Most people would be born into it, and have it drilled into their heads all their lives, and all he lives of their children, and their children's children. Any attempt to think for oneself will be said to be rebellion and will be dealt with harshly, reducing the chances of possible future insurrection.

Bye and be sure to vote for usÃ, 

Hint hint.

For the love of God, never post a link to a female Tauren showing cleavage again. I just about gouge my eyes out with rusty spoons and force-feed them to myself whenever I come across them ingame...

lgm... I think "immodesty" in the case in question means, for example, flashing one's cleaveage aboot for all to see, or wearing extremely tight junk-enhancing pants...

I would very much like to write, and I was thinking about going to film school, in England, so if I've made that leap by then I'd be glad to do anything else!

What can I say... I'm one jealous guy.

I don't want to be bothered going back and quoting stuff, so, for everyone who responded to the last statement I made: That's just me... I probably WOULDN'T want to put my tongue somewhere another man's tongue would be. I wouldn't want a girl to slap my ass and call me "cutie-pie" if she's done that to another man. It isn't religious preference, as  I have no religion. It is a simple matter of wanting to be the most important thing in the world to someone, not simply "backup important thing" because "primary important thing" didn't quite work out.

What I'm about to say has nothing to do with religion, or faith, or anything of the sort.. It is simply me, being an overly romantic idealistic fool. I have been in love with the girl I'm going to marry since the day I became cognizant of what love is, even though I've never met her. I thought I had... several times... I've told one too many people I loved them, and now, when I meet the person I'm going to want to spend the rest of my life with, I am not telling them "I love you with all my heart," I'm essentially saying "I love you with the part of my heart that's left over from the other people I've said this to."

I'm all embarassed now.

EDIT, as an afterthought... Ginny, I'm only, like .0000004% Jewish, but I'll tell you what I'd do. I'd lie, too, and if the Nazis saw through my lie and went on to find the Jews, I'd probably try to kill the bastards with my bare hands before I let them take the Jews. and you know what? I think God would buy me a pizza for doing it.

How about this one... Sorry about the nastiness of what folows, but I believe it is necessary to get my point across.

I don't want to put my penis somewhere where another guy's has been, and where it has been randomly spewing smee about. I especially don't want to put my mouth there. If I were a girl, I wouldn't want to have some guy dipping his junk in me when it's been in a ton of other girls. I may speak solely for myself, but here's the dilly-o: When I get married, I don't want to think I was just one stop along a broad buffet line.

Heheheheh...

Anyway...

I want to ask a new question, since it seems my other quesions are never going to get answered, as they are religiously incriminating...

Why is swearing wrong, and what Bible verse can you use to show me it is? Be warned before you answer... You don't really know why it's wrong. You only think you do...

My questions haven't been answered either. It seems I asked them the longest time ago.

Becky, I'll answer your question from a Christian perspetive. Well, from a Catholic perspective first: because if you do it, God hates you and you will burn in Hell, because the Bible says not to.

From a Christian perspective: God set things in motion not because he is a giant asshole who takes advantage of his position as God, but because he set all the laws of nature in motion as well and therefore understands what may or may not be good for us. Consensual sex between two unmarried adults could very well lead to illness. It could lead to heartbreak, if you give yourself to that person and think you will be with them forever, but they leave you. If you remember who the Bible was originally received by, you can aso understand there were more problems then just that for them. Marriage and sex to the OT Jews was specifically for continuing family lines, which means if you just had sex with whomever you wanted, your family line would be tainted, and your entire family would probably insert fiery torches into your buttocks.

And here's ANOTHER question I know I've asked before: If you were in Nazi-occupied Poland and were hiding Jews in your home, when the Nazis came to your dor looking, would you lie to them and save the Jews, but damn your soul (and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone) or tel the truth, saving yourself but damning the Jews? There are, as was discussed last time, more than one way around this, but as rharpe showed us with Eric's questions, everything can boil down to one of two courses of action...

All marriage is is a tradition. The real way God had in mind in the Bible is that when you had sex with someone, you stayed with them. The wedding ceremony wasn't actually the same as it is today... it was more of a giving of the girl to a man by the family so that man would be assured he could continue his family line. The only reason marriage exists the way it does today is because, although the Catholic church possesses most of the world's money, they don't want you to possess any. That's (one reason) why people of all religions and non-religions have to have a clergy member perform their ceremony.

Cool. I meant no initial insult. My entire meaning was that rharpe wasn't helping his argument out with that list, since I could be a murderer and a proponent of celibacy at the same time.

Did I already point you to www.godhatesfags.com? I can assure you, those people are against everything rharpe listed, but if there is a god, he will be kicking them all squarely in the nuts one day.

I'm not talking about the "ten questions," or your answering of them. I'm not tired of the thread. I always enjoy an oportunity to discuss these things. If you had read my post, rather than just picking something that you felt you can easily piss on like you normally do, you might have seen I explained what I found to be going in no reasonable direction. If you want to have a personal conversation with rharpe, do so in PM. However, since this is a public forum, let people talk without vomitting on them. I see no reason why, unless I'm breaking the rules, that what I said should be a problem. Not to mention, I'm agreeing with you (mostly).

Now then, as I was saying, these ten things have nothing to do with morals, or whether one is all koshered up in the sight of God. Like I also said, there are some "evil" people that would hold to this code of morals very closely, and alot of "good" people that might deviate here or there, or everywhere. Adolph Hitler probably adhered to these things pretty closely. And like I said, whenever the preacher's conference is in town, the printer on my desk at work spits out "Anal Slaves IV: Latex Lovers" all night long.

Here's a list of questions for you...

Is it wrong to force a 13-year girl old to marry a 40 year old man? Is it wrong for that man to be in some way related to her? Is it wrong for you to have sex with a girl and claim that that is your "marriage?" Is it wrong to be a polygamist?

Read the Bible. Mary was very young, probably 13-15. If you read the geneologies of Jesus given in two different gospels, you will see they are slightly different, but not too terribly different. The reason for the difference is because one is Mary's and one is Joseph's. The ancient Hebrews' "marriage ceremony" was simply a promising of the girl to the man. They weren't married until they had sex, as is evidenced by the bringing of bloody sheets to the parents. Mary was most likely only one of Joseph's wives, as they were still doing the polygamy thing that happened so frequently in the Old Testament at the time... 

For Pete's sake... What does it even matter? Where is this even going? You know, I can think of several serial killers I've read about that killed because they thought the things on that list were wrong... I'm not a big fan of any of those things. I have some Wiccan friends who would agree with me, and some atheist friends, and my brother, who is a Shinto monk, is feverishly against all that and more.

I also knew of a man who was songleader in the church down the street who was carted off to jail for feeling up little girls on the church bus. I know for a fact, working in the hotel industry, that whenever there is a preacher's meeting in town, the amount of pornography rented in the in-room movies doubles. I'm also keenly aware that priests all over America have been grabbing little boys by their buttocks, ripping them apart, staring lovingly inside and then inserting their heads in roughly up to the shoulders, and the church officials are covering it up.

I also think you fail to notice that the Bible says if you are guilty in one point of the law, then you have offended in all points. Have you ever told a lie, or worn gold? Has your wife ever braided her hair, or worn clothes of mixed fabrics? Oh, dear! I gues that means you're guilty of the entire list you posted!

What is religion but the abuse of power?

SSH: great example. I do think one thing is funny, though. Jesus never once, in the entirety of the New Testament, EVER EVER EVER attacked anyone who did not already profess to be religious. He tore the crap out of the Pharisees, and the Suducees, and the people who were trying to make a profit in the temple, but whenever he came across the "amoral" people of the world, he didn't try to kick them in the nuts... He treated them with every respect and won them to himself by showing them he genuinely cared about them.

Jesus hates religion, too....

I had an idea a while back that was terribly unlike this, but not too terribly dissimilar.

I need to win a MAGS, though, because this is how it would work...

For MAGS in whichever month I would have won it, which I never will, because I have better things to do than enter, such as remaining free of deadline-related stress, there would be no theme, only one rule: You can only use graphics and music from the most recent sprite, music, animation, and background competition.

That's kind of cooperative, only it requires less cooperation.

I think "aetheism?" from Helm was a jab in the direction that if aetheism exists, it is an occultic practice dealing with the Seven Aethyrs, because the act of not believing in any deity is known as "atheism," from the Greek a- meaning without, and "theos" meaning "god."

I also think I want to go get some fish and chips now... but in one of those neat sealable styrofoam containers that you Brits don't seem to have, as you eat your shit out of bags.

Oh, by the way, if Christianity were 100% true and accurate, rharpe is still on the wrong course. Trying to make the whole world be good and nice to each other is like trying to put a band-aid on cancer. It's not the friggin' TV stations that are making our kids kill and boink each other, it's the kids themselves. The only reason TV stations play violent and sexual television is because that's what people want to see. You want the youth of America to stop being corrupted? Don't take away "Miami Vice" and "Space Invaders," punch the kids in their mouths.

Preferably while employing brass knuckles.

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Yes, I'm aware of that. What I'm not aware of is why the hell you are eating fish and chips out of a bag...