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I got it off FlashKit.com.

And why are you sorry... You're suposed to kill Jimmy!

Thanks for helping make my point for me, Nik.

I KNOW I was talking too much. I apologized for starting all the shit, and to everyone I offended. However, after the fact, it kept going. Rather than being me vs. everybody else, it became everybody else vs. the people who agreed with me (like Nik). Therefore, I was responsible for the continuing carnage and was trying to help quell what I had created. I had hoped that my post would be the last on the topic and we could move on with our lives.

I was just thinking about making a one room game. I would certainly join in.

I watched the "12:48: speedrun, and found it interesting that AGS has a weird clock. When the game dislplayed that you had beaten it in twelve minutes and forty-eight seconds, the timer on WinAmp was displaying 12:24.

Mordy, I don't know if you're reading this or not, but don't be an idiot. People like you and respect you around here, even if it's only been a little while since you've been posting. You made a good game, you sprite awesomely, and you do make good jokes and are a worthwhile poster here on the site. This isn't worth getting all crazy about and throwing in the towel. I, like Pablo, argue a whole lot. I've argued with Pablo before. I hope he isn't such a moron that he bears a grudge against me and hates me because of it, and I certainly am not that way toward him. There have probably been a couple places we agreed with each other, or thought something that the other said was hilarious.

The point is, this isn't the real world. Every thread is a new playing field, because everybody has different opinions, and when provoked, it is the nature of the beast to respond in a heated way. Everyone has opinions, and will argue them to the hilt. When you are with real people, this is probably not the case, primarily because if you're right (or if you're wrong) real people have a tendency to bear a grudge, if not kick your ass. On the internet, we aren't real people, but little blue boxes full of text. People feel more free to argue their points when the chances of recompense aren't so high. That is why people like forums so much. The next little blue box that comes up might be funny, or sad, or happy, and you respond in a completely different manner to it.

Pablo: like I said, I don't ever condemn people because of their age. I used to volunteer with teenagers. They aren't "teenagers." They're people. I'm good friends with them. Screw that "mentor" thing. They don't need it. They can form their own opinions and live life the way they want to do it. I quit doing that because I felt like the people I was doing it for were forcing me to treat them like non-entities. I remember being a teenager. when I turned 20, I didn't suddenly become a real person. We all have a tendency to jump on Flukeblake, saying "he's just a kid," but he's a person, and when I realized I was being an idiot I started treating him like one.

I'm not going to condescend to you because you're young. I'm going to condescend to you because you're arguing with me. Which hopefully is done now. I meant nothing personal. Like I just said, everyone on the internet has  opinions, and I was just exercising my right to have mine, as you were doing with your right to yours. Truce?

EVERYBODY, TRUCE? 

Seriously, guys, STFU. CJ himself said to cut it out.

I started out joking, but like CJ said, I took it a bit too seriously. I don't really TAKE BACK anything I said, except my coments to Petteri. When Pett responded "God, I'm never making a joke again," I instantly knew I had been wrong to attack him, but, because of the pride issues I mentioned, I couldn't take it back. I do now. Petteri, I'm sorry.

Pablo... You mentioned something about "acting" like Mordy and I were when you were 11. Unless you were lying in your profile, that would only have been five years ago. It's fourteen for me. I'm normally the first person to stand by not judging people because of their age, but just a thought: maybe you shouldn't be doling out the term "immature." Maybe you're right... Maybe you're wrong. Stop it anyway.

ManicMatt: I aim to please. Thanks for comenting on my game. I wonder how many people are going to go snipe the ratings on it now after this little conversation?

Buloght, I think you're the only one who gets it.

Babar: Thanks. I take that as "apology accepted." I didn't mean to be a tool.

So let's relax. Everyone who was posting their opinions, CJ said enough is enough. Everyone who posted to back me up, I don't need it. I was wrong. Maybe ideologically I was right, but in the way I carried it out I was very wrong. I'm sorry to anyone I offended.

...Except Rosella.

And, even if we AREN'T moderators, and can't say "Hey, I've locked Esper's threads, and Nikolas's threads.. But  I'm not going to lock this one..." We can still say "But look! She's making fun of you!"

And, Pablo... Who is this Chris Jones guy you're talking about? Oh, you mean pumaman, the person that Rosella included in her rant about how we were children whose little minds couldn't comprehend poetry and therefore should make up secret handshakes for our friends on the bus? He doesn't mean squat around here, because Princess Rosella said so!

[NOT TO GET MAD AT US BECAUSE WE WEREN'T PROPERLY MARKETING HER GAME!]

I WASN'T PISSED OFF DAMMIT!!! (the all-caps is just a joke, mind you)

Seriously. I was just running a liitle experiment. It's not like I was trying to pull a prank on their community so I could sit back and guffaw and say "HA! Look guys, I showed them!" I was simply showing people that they don't like it, and therefore should not be doing it to us.

If you are cool with it, fine. I'm not trying to usurp power. I wouldn't make a good mod, because I'm too arrogant. The whole reason this has gone on this long is because I have a pride issue. And, to all, I'm sorry. I probably should have shut up by now. However, my point was never to say she should not have posted here. I went along with it, until Rosella started acting like a jerk. MY ENTIRE PURPOSE FOR THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT was to tell her NOT TO GET MAD AT US BECAUSE WE WEREN'T PROPERLY MARKETING HER GAME! Everything else I have said was simply to back that up.

I really am excited about making games. I'm excited about the one I already made, and I'm excited to make more. However, when I make my next game and try to hype it, and my thread gets locked, I'll look back and see someone who signed up here JUST to hype their own game being allowed to do so and wonder why I even try being a part of a community in the first place. Maybe if I make fun of you you will see the light and help me, like you're doing here.

This is getting out of hand, and it's 99.9% my fault. So I'm an asshole. Maybe I should stop caring about the "marketing machine" like a hippie and just relax.

Babar: No, seriously. This has nothing to do with adventure games or adventure game making. If I posted "Your favorite KQ moment," it would be so people could remember fondly a good game. The reason Rosella posted it is because, as Squinky pointed out, she is on the KQIX staff and is trying to get people to remember KQ so they become interested in KQIX. It has nothing to do with KQ, but rather with getting hits to their site and downloads of the game. If I did the same thing, even here in General, my thread would be locked or deleted. Rosella posted here ONLY to pimp the game. Why don't we have CJ start an advertisement forum specifically for people to come here and sell their products? I'll tell you what's next. Pepsi is gonna start paying us 20 bucks a month to have the banner showing the characters from our games holding cans of their soda.

Plus, I wasn't counter attacking... Just running an experiment.

*Esper can never go to Mittens now, having successfully pissed off all veteran members of AGS*

Pabs: immature? I can't speak for Mordy, but me? There is method to my madness. Team A performs illegal maneuver on Team B, and are not penalized... actually, they are encouraged to continue performing said maneuver by members of the team against which the maneuver is being perpetrated. Member of Team B performs same illegal maneuver on Team A and receives a foul, thus effectively proving illegality of said maneuver. Member of Team B calls him immature, and other members of the team that agree with him.

Petts: Member 2 of Team B agrees with Member 1. Another member of Team B makes fun of an earlier play by Member 2 that scored Team B some good points, not because it is constructive, or because it helps Team A to stop scoring on them, but because he thinks it is funny to put down people who work hard for the team so he looks good.

I'm not saying there is any kind of "competition" going on here. The "Team" thing was just an example. What I am saying is that Rosella may not have meant harm by coming here, but what she DID do was sign on these forums specifically for the purpose of PR'ing KQIX. After she'd collected all her "hip rap songs" and "works of art" and gotten everyone over here "hyped" about KQIX, she never would have been seen again. It's a marketing ploy. It has nothing to do with this community, and as such, has no place in it. I'm sure if I gave someone proper motivation they would go around to other people's forums and say "I'm excited about this new project, let's hype it up!"

Not to mention that she was a bitch just because people were making little jokes, which happens in EVERY THREAD ON THESE FORUMS!

PS: I doubt Mordy meant "this means war" as in, "oh, no, we have to compete for whose better now," but rather that what is tolerated on these forums not being tolerated on theirs is not fair.

PPS @ Babar: WTF? So KQIXers posting on our forums about a game not made in AGS, trying to hype it and get us to help PR it for them, is okay, but when I go to do the same about MY game, which I am very passionate about myself, there's something wrong with me? I posted in their general forum, and I used the exact same format Rosella used. Am I wrong only because my game is not a big glamorous production with a big staff that is a fangame of one of the best adventure games ever? .......Elitism and bandwagoneering at its finest...

Just as you say no one's attacking me, I'm not attacking anyone. Just saying THINK ABOUT IT!

It doesn't even matter. It's like the .0000000001 K of bandwidth this thread is taking up actually matters in the long run, because that's the only effect the whole thing has on the real world.

You just kicked everyone's ass, Mordy.

Actually, good luck with that. I hopped on over to KQIX (where I found the information on the poosible "Rosella" perpetrator) and posted MY game on their forum, having cut and pasted Rosella's initial post here and edited it for my game's purposes...

...It was deleted in a half hour.

I don't know whether that's  ,  :'(,  , or  .

Nice'n, Ashen. Are you going to put it in the tech archives now or what?

Seriously, right?

Rosella: "Hi guys! The new King's Quest fan game is coming out soon! Is everyone as excited as I am? Let's hype it up!"

ManicMatt inserts a lighthearted picture of Doctor Who playing King's Quest and falling in the water, being a scene that has been spoken of fondly by others.

Rosella: "DAMN YOU ALL! BURN IN HELL, YOU UNCULTURED SWINE! YOUR MOTHERS SEW SOCKS THAT SMELLLLL!!!!!!!"

... and I'm the one getting flamed? Think again, cracker.

EDIT:

By the way...

SAYDMELL SALAZAR / Public Relations and Web Director
Saydmell (or Say as she prefers to be called) is the Director of the PR and Web department, which is responsible for the recruitment of staff, management of contact with all third parties, development of the KQIX website and the community aspect of the project.

That doesn't happen to be you, does it, Rosella?

1) because if this is a thread to hype someone's game, it's in entirely the wrong place ANYWAY. If I started a thread like this it would get locked.

2) who's "anti-hyping" someone else's game? I was playing along, until I was mocked, along with alot of the other posters here, including CJ, for being immature.

3) because I can do what I please. This is a public forum. If this were in the place it should be, then I would not arrive simply to "anti-hype" the game like so many troll bastards before me. However, it is in gengen. I have spoken my piece, I have made "hip rap songs and poems" about the new KQ game, I have had a rather kickass piece of art made starring me (Tom Baker, actually)... I have been called (like I said, along with everyone else, including CJ) immature for speaking generally in a general forum and playing around in a lighthearted manner, and I have retaliated.  I have also been agreed with.

So shut the hell up, and defend someone who isn't being arrogant, condescending, and who isn't trying to use this community. I'm here for the ride, the fun, the friends, the community... Rosella, who at present has only 6 posts in this particular thread alone, has only come here SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THESE FORUMS, and us. I am a member of the community. She is, as I have just called her in a recent post, a "marketing exec" out solely for the purpose of getting more hits. I try to be a worthwhile member, and present my 2 cents, my arguments, my discussions, cool websites I have seen, and my game which I worked very hard on by myself. I participate in Sprite Jams and other contests, and have made a contest myself which was popular for at least a little while... I have made friends, and some good ones at that. I have assisted people with problems as best I could, and been assisted. I have had threads locked, and I have had threads become very popular.

So thank you for sticking up for someone who is obviously out entirely for self-gain. Go rectify a uranium rod.

I would say so...

A knock up would be quite nice, actually....

And, if my idea holds up, it wouldn't actually need to LOOP vertically, just be able to look at the ceiling and floor. You couldn't do somersaults...

Seriously.... I need a walkthrough for the damn demo game! I would have found it already and tried to interpret the code myself, but I don't know which room does it since I can't go anywhere but the friggin' street! I've beaten every King's Quest, every Quest For Glory, Police Quest 1, Space Quest 2 and 3, Maniac Mansion, all the Zorks, Wishbringer, Enchanter, Hitchhiker's Guide... And I can't bloody well pass the first screen in DEMO QUEST!!!

Yes. The earlier versions of Adventure Maker (for making Myst-style games) had this option (until they actually came out with panorama support), and I was able to program a simple engine in Game Maker that allowed the same thing (but in which I couldn't add other objects to the foreground). I think AM is open source; I wonder if someone could get the source from that and figure out how they did it...

Thanks all. I think I might not have been able to come up with that on my own, especially since I'm not a coder by nature. However, there is one thing still unanswered.

How would I make it to where, if I scrolled all the way to one side, the room would LOOP, as though I were spinning my view in circles? Is it even possible?

I don't exactly follow... Example?