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Who says it has to stop?  If theyre having fun, hell, let em keep on.

I'm guessing "sledge" is a regional term for "heckle".

I just had a weird vision of Layabout standing over DG with a sledge hammer.

But see, now is the time to analyze it- not while you watch it. Like that guy teaches how to speed read books. Don't think when you experience, just think back and in retrospect- what did you get out of it?  For me I remember little but punch-punch, one liner, one liner.   I do admire that they had less gun fights this time around and focused more on hand to hand.  There was almost a "use your mind, not your sidearm" message in this flick, but why would a super man use a gun anyhow?

LGM, I hate to keep the recorrection ball rolling, but you misread flip's post.

QS, what are you talking about?  Welcome aboard and thanks for the offer Philcow.  

All of us in the theatre made the joke that the guy looked like Col. Sanders on wednesday.   However, I would guess the Architect is supposed to look more like Sigmund Freud than anyone.  And yes, Freud looks a bit like the Colonel.

Punch- I'm not going to whine about the scene where "everything" is explained because folks will just tell me to wait for the sequel and spend another $8. (Not to mention they pathetically put the disclaimer in his dialogue that "some of this may not make sense to your puny mind").  But all I figure is that it was impossible to make everyone accept the Matrix- so in order to have some sort of unity- those who reject it have to be given a choice.. like that Sypher guy who went back in, and Neo who took the pill to escape.  I'm betting later on we see that by beating up agents and pulling people out, Morpheus and the others are actually furthering the Matrix along and not hurting it at all.

But the explanation was way lame and I'd like to see them clear it up in the threequel.  However I'm fairly sure the most thought provoking revelations have already taken place.

Flippy, no- you most likely have seen the fan created flash or read over the name while at Newgrounds or the like.  But Guillermo Deltoro is making a movie starring Ron Perlman. So he claimed at the world premiere of Blade II last year.

"only true Matrix fans will watch/play it all.. The rest will just bitch about how "shitty" the Matrix has become"

Allow me to quote myself, as riduculous it may sound:

LGM, please quit bunching "The Matrix" and "Reloaded" as if they are the same entity.    The movie the "Matrix" stood alone on its own.

It seems to me I am clearly stating I am a fan of "The Matrix" and not of the series.  Am I somehow hiddenly claiming to be a bigger fan of the series than you?  No. I'm saying the first film is all that will be remembered years from now- as revolutionary perhaps.  

If you say you watched the first and second films back to back, can you deny a change in style did not take place? That the first one was so much darker than the second, and that its amazing visual effects were done for the most part in real time?  Surely you took note that the second cheated in places the first did not.  Take character development for one.   Sure, we already know the main characters- but who the hell are these new people? the keymaker? He has perhaps four lines and half the movie is about rescuing him so he can help some people he's never even seen before get through one damn door in the big building downtown.  All this symbolic shit is nothing new,  and it wasn't in the first movie- but in the first it was made special by the framing device they used.  And the subtle mix of fighting, techno, and dialogue.  "Reloaded" was overkill, and that effected other aspects of the movie.   Neo as superman was stupid, at no point did I ever fear that he would get harmed, so the fights were meaningless.  Just admit that much, that this movie was different in a bad way.  

I think all you Matrix defenderers are forgetting that Andy and whathisface did not write all three movies before shooting the first.  They are essentially writing as they go along, give or take a few reserved "revelations".  The first movie was a masterpiece, I myself was moved and whether or not the concepts were original- the movie introduced me to them.  The second movie was a horrible attempt at franchising- just giving kids what they want to see. There's no problem with that, but there should be a point made that the movies are evolving into flashier hollywood nonsense.  Don't give me the excuse to just wait for the third movie before criticising- say one day a fourth is written- what then?  Does the credibility of this series keep getting pushed back further?  I think it would be hilarious if at the very end of the third movie- Neo is simply a kid daydreaming in an amusement park.

But LGM, please quit bunching "The Matrix" and "Reloaded" as if they are the same entity.  Franchising a movie creates two separate entities.  The movie the "Matrix" stood alone on its own. But now, part of it has rubbed off IMO.   I'm sure there are other Matrix fans who were not impressed as well.

Hey, I recently schemed to do stand-up as well. Except I intend to do bad, horribly bad.  I figure I know a few people who might point me in the right direction, the actors from the sketch comedy show I worked on are some of the funniest people in Austin (officially).  So yeah, if I can warm up a room with some witty shit, that'd be sweet.  A cool hobby at the least.

"the Matrices"

Yeah, that's the real title alright, I dunno where all this "Reloaded" stuff came from.  But I just came back from seeing it.  From a film student's perspective: "eh."  From an every day theatre goers perspective: "woah..."

Naturally this film does not have the catch of creating the "reality" the first one does, it merely expands upon that reality.  Reloaded becomes more and more a cliche sci-fi movie "time is running out" sort of deal minute after minute and the CG at times, altho amazing, is still a bit lacking.  I don't care how many awesome fighting moves a guy uses if he still looks like rubber.   But the fight sequences are nicely choreographed.. and of course highly unrealistic. Haha, but that's 'ok' as long as they are "in the Matrix", right?

There are several sequences that are done in 3d binary which are very comical, even when trying to be serious, and the credits are like 15 minutes long. Haha, but other than the things I've ranted about- the movie is good.  Everyone will end up seeing it of course.

Ah, but you write into contradiction... you say a soul is NOT identity, therefore my soul can go on and my identity can die.

But why do I care if a soul exists if it is no longer mine?  What do I care if a clone of me exists in Heaven because I was good on Earth? I deserve to be in Heaven- not he. What do I care if only a clone of me suffers the pain of Hell?  I won't have to feel the torment, he will- and he deserves it for claiming my soul.    

How about Hell= no identity?

Not surviving after death.  If God can make one copy of you in Heaven or Hell, why can't he make two? Say he does, which body holds your soul?  Both are identical in every way, even in memory. Do you still exist?

Or imagine a comic book in fully rendered 3D!!!!

The middle line is not centered, in other words.

Yeah, no offense but I'm not big on the filteryness of it.  You lose some of the quality on the sweet stencil too.  But thanks overall, I do appreciate the effort.

Yeah, smart ass comment edited after reading more than one post. Never mind.

Those were both two great logos- anyone else take a try at it?

If you're thinking about it, again I should mention- don't worry about the text, we'll do that in editing.  Something clear and simple would rock.  And we can use as many as you throw us, alternating between episodes.

Thanks everyone who helped out! Consider simplifying those logos to the tombstones themselves, Iqu and Remixor- please.  I'll make sure you guys get a place in the credits of the show.  

One's identity passing on to another lifeform is hardly likely.

For what is identity if it is not memory, stream of conciousness, or physical character of one's body?  If it is memory, how does one know he is actually remembering his previous life or seeming to remember?  I would highly dislike for another being to exist which could remember events from my life- if not actually "me".  And if that being IS actually remembering- what if another being were reincarnated from me, and that being also is not seeming to remember but actually remembering.  If A is me and B is me, there seems to be a problem of identity.  For I cannot  equal both A & B. Lifeform A seems to have had my identity up until the point lifeform B was formed- then my identity suddenly vanishes.   Please, someone assure me that if reincarnation or heaven exists- that only one copy of my identity can be made.


Hehehe, can anyone tell I just got done studying philosophy for 3 hours?

He received a PHd while studying in Canada- but in Canada Phd's are called VSc's.  He carries his Canadian education with much pride.