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#201
General Discussion / Re: A UFO theory.
Wed 25/06/2008 14:21:16
Hahaha, well anyways  I was watching CNN the other day and the WEIRDEST story came on about Barack Obama and John McCain.


The story was basically "You've been hearing alot lately from the candidates about how evil lobbyists are..... but did you know there are lots of lobbyists out there trying to HELP you?"

The story went on to show all these goodguy lobbyists and blah blah blah, defending the system as it is.   There seemed to be no actual news item propelling this story.... just the fact that the giant conglomerate that runs CNN wanted the story to be told.

So there's some PR.   And it wasn't a lie really.  Just a situation where CNN used its own airtime to try to change public opinion of the voters.  For its own benefit.   Nothing new there. 
#202
General Discussion / Re: A UFO theory.
Wed 25/06/2008 13:57:34
Woah.    I had to search "Heath Ledger" for that reference.   Umm...

Despite the fact the HL conspiracy is loony, don't let that convince you that media outlets don't try PR stunts.    I mean you saw all the crazy shit they did for Cloverfield.    We're talking about the Sun not the Times of London.   It takes years and years to gain credibility from your audience as a media outlet.   The only thing keeping respectable media outlets from downright lying to the public is that they don't want to lose their audience.

So papers like the Sun feature celebrity gossip columns and horoscopes, and everything else including bologna.   I don't see much credibility in the UFO stories.   Not enough to defend them.
#203
General Discussion / Re: A UFO theory.
Wed 25/06/2008 13:45:50
The Sun is sort of a celebrity gossip publication, right?

Most publications actually do try to maintain a good image, and keep their credibility.   On the contrary, publications like these will report just about anything.   I'd say its a good bet Fox is  trying some publicity stunt viral marketing nonsense.   

I googled one of these articles and it does appear they're not just reporting each sighting but instead saying "UFOs rampant all over the UK"  to start some buzz not unlike Orson Welles' War of the Worlds broadcast.    If its about the X Files movie I just couldn't say.
#204
General Discussion / Re: the Skyscraper Thread
Wed 25/06/2008 12:35:37
Yeah, what happens when wind REALLY picks up?   What happens in a hurricane?   Perhaps there's some motion compensator or gear ratio that slows down the movement of each floor.   

To be honest you'd be safer in that building in a hurricane because the building is so flexible.    But with the floor clacking around it would be scary as hell. 
#205
General Discussion / Re: the Skyscraper Thread
Wed 25/06/2008 11:27:39
Self powered wind turbines on each floor is so badass!

"Why do we want to fight the wind?  Let's use the wind for our benefit."   

So genius.  I hope this technology is legit.
#206
Quote from: Cherubgeist on Wed 25/06/2008 08:25:12
http://www.signmovies.net/videos/news/2008/20080624georgecarlininhell.html

Apparently Carlin is in hell, right now.
This was made on the 24th of June, 2008. So, yesterday.
These radical bastards made this video TWO DAYS after Carlin passed away.
The act in itself is despicable enough, but to not even allow for mourning is horrendous.
I'm sure if the deceased were among us to respond, he'd make quite the Motherfucker Cocksucker Shitfuck Piss-Tits of Phelps.
Ugh.  >:(


Hahahaha, Carlin would have laughed his ass off at that video.  Makeout Patrol is right.   I wouldn't worry about it.    This kind of thing is right up Carlin's alley.   He made a career out of fucking with guys like Phelps.


Picketing his funeral is fucked tho.   It's a pain in the ass that his first amendment rights let's him do that.    But that's the country we live in...   in the end a picket at Carlin's funeral is the perfect ending for someone who stood up for first amendment rights and against censorship all his life.   There's a little beauty in the picket itself... I just sympathize with Carlin's friends and loved ones who won't be able to mourn in the traditional sense.
#207
General Discussion / Re: the Skyscraper Thread
Wed 25/06/2008 11:05:45
In the news:  Dubai rotating, wind powered skyscraper?


 


Just imagine seeing that thing waving around in the wind!  What a nauseating cool thing to experience, eh?


The floors will be independent of each other, rotating around a central concrete core.   My question is..... how does one use the elevators / stairs?    Do the doors constantly slide around and guillotine people in half or what?
#208
fireman airtanks, solar power, and breast cancer detection are enough proof for me.     I'm sure someone will make a big fuss over golfball aerodynamics.
#209
Quote from: Tuomas on Tue 24/06/2008 19:17:12

Man, there's plenty of time to develop a space shuttle to evacuate the Earth, but would we even have anything to evacuate? I'd rather live in the moment myself rather than really start designing jedi-lazer-swords with which to defend myself when the time comes and I wake from my timetravel tube and am the only person in the world aside from shitloads of robots.

? ? ? ? ?

You state that you and Matti see humans' actions as the single biggest threat to our species....   I couldn't agree more.    I have the strong opinion that negligence will be our downfall.     Now, this paragraph implies something about humans getting ahead of themselves with technology.   I don't understand quite what you mean.   Are you saying humans shouldn't seek?   That humans should just wait?

I read these words to say:  "Everything falls into place over time".... like we could diagram on a chart the years

2030- lightsabers invented, 2090 - time machine invented, 3040 - human killing robots arrive

What did this paragraph mean exactly?  Because it seems to me that it's removing the responsibility out of humans' hands to do anything at all.  It appears to be a message about fate.
#210
Quote from: Tuomas on Tue 24/06/2008 13:30:58
your comments, you're taking the whole base from your ocean of facts, simply by making everything you say seem like it comes from a jerk off.

Look, for those of you who think space is a waste of time, the stakes are just a couple billion dollars.


For me, the stakes are the future of mankind.  I get frustrated. I get uppity. It happens.   I say to ensure the safety of our species we should double the budget for NASA.    But so many people want to cut it back?  My reaction is rage.   There's no convincing everyone of precise geological details.
#211
Listen to scotch.   After all there are astronomers whose job it is to track all the meteors more than a kilometer wide that could potentially cross paths with Earth:

Near-Earth Asteroid Tracking System
Linear Asteroid Detection Project
Catalina Sky Survey
Loneos Program
Spacewatch Program


Not to mention comets.   Comets are just random as hell... we wouldn't even see it coming.
#212
Quote from: matti on Tue 24/06/2008 12:30:21
1. Do you think landing on the mars and disovering ice will help us redirect or destroy deadly asteroids?

Yes.

Quote from: matti on Tue 24/06/2008 12:30:21
2. Do you really think the possible impact of an asteroid is a serious threat to mankind? At the moment? Yeah, perhaps in 2000 years there is one coming towards earth, and then perhaps we have devices to prevent it from crashing on the ground, but should that really matter to us now? And why?

Ah, true wisdom.   "Let's wait and develop technology to save the planet 2000 years from now.... when all my descendants will be even less informed and less enthusiastic about the universe than I am."

Quote from: matti
So your point is: Money doesn't matter on earth, but going to space is important??     

Money doesn't solve problems.  Human ambition and collaboration does.   Money just motivates.


Where did you get the impression I've even seen a disaster movie?    No, sorry I took college courses.   This shit is real, Mr. Nostradamus.  Go consult your local scientist .   You may have to wait until your neighbors are done throwing rocks at him.

Quote from:  lalalalala
Edit:  Whole point was: The billions spent are NOT worth it (as I said before). And I haven't heard one genuine argument against that statement.

Gee, Mr. President may we pweeeeeeeeeese go to space? 
#213
Quote from: Tuomas on Tue 24/06/2008 12:11:35
I'm sorry, but where actually did I ever say that?

You inferred that learning about meteors (ie. landing on the moon) was rather useless.

Quote from: scotch
I'm not really sure what you're saying about meteors though, evenwolf... how did going to the moon teach us much about that?

scotch:   Craters are preserved on the Moon.   They are victims of erosion on Earth.  So the frequency and size, hell everything about impact craters that can't be observed on Earth is right up there smiling down at us.

Google Daniel Barringer

It actually took a really really really long time for the scientific community to recognize impact craters here on Earth.    And from the evidence on the Moon ( which is 2 percent the size of the Earth ) we know there is a HUGE history or meteor impacts that we can no longer see on the Earth's surface.   Due to the cycling process of rocks on this planet.

#214
Quote from: Tuomas on Tue 24/06/2008 11:48:26
But I really can't see the benefit of getting some guy on the moon just to discover there's nothing there.

I feel like a broken record in an auditorium for the School of the Deaf.

There are impact craters and marias on the Moon.   If you feel that meteors alone are not important... then consider one day that all your descendants will be suffocated by the impact of one.









Just a tiny one



Anyone who feels the urge to say "spend our Earth dollars on this instead" has some perverted idea that Earth money is actually worth something.    The day the first human went into orbit... everything else was merely a notion, an expression.     Breaking the threshold into space is more meaningful to the human species than anything else.    I find it incredible that you guys read and watch sci fi books & films go so far as to play games like Spore, and are so blind to these concepts.  With all due respect, WAKE UP.
#215
Quote from: matti on Tue 24/06/2008 10:17:47
So we'll take water from mars to have enough to drink?

Oh Jesus.  What a hump melon.    When you travel overseas do you actually carry all the water you'll be drinking on the trip?   Well perhaps if you were going to Mexico... 

Listen.  Sadly the boat has sailed past you and you are not onboard.   I think you're flailing in the water somewhere in its wake.

Quote from: matti on Tue 24/06/2008 10:17:47

Shouldn't we instead work on our problems BEFORE we explore outer space? How can it be that so many people live without healthcare, but billions are going into space-science? Of course it's the same thing with weaponscience for example...

And hereby you trivialize the entire mission with your misguided understandings.   Our current understanding of the universe comes from Earth and what we see from a lens in a telescope.   Understanding the universe gives us new methods of solving's earth's problems.   Exploring the universe is not a waste.

The last post I made (the one about the snowcones)  was for you.   I hope you enjoyed my sarcasm because any further explanation I feel will fall on deaf ears.    NASA doesn't need you to clap your hands and *believe*  to succeed in its missions.    So its your own loss and your own little snow globe of ignorance you choose to sit glumly inside.  I hope one day you will open your doors to the people who are working towards solving the world's problems, and not spit in their face.
#216
This is the coolest competition/activity I've ever seen.  This is basically the job of an art director, interpreting the script and I love it.   Well done.

If possible, I may try to catch up with some sketches and participate.




Larger Res

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OK, I took 15 minutes to make my first concept drawing.   The whole time I was keeping loominous's advice in mind of maintaining an intriguing silhouette.   I just played around with shapes & unfortunately couldn't print off my source material.  So I was working blindly, and forgetting elements I wanted to include.  This sketch is definitely not final.  I did go Victorian which was the initial plan. But the biggest change I would make is the overhead camera angle- make it lower to give the orphanage a more ominous tone.   This will fix the elongated trapezoidness to the design overall.   The side door also draws too much focus and trivializes the orphanage.     But I did come up with one atmospheric detail I like, which is to have a playset that sinks away from the house, almost in danger of slipping away and into the creek.

The weird trellis... I had something in mind with that and then I experimented into making it an archway/ flagpole.   I don't think I like it but I may try something similar on the next sketch.   



In the next sketch the goal will be to:

1. Remodel.
2. Fix the angle.
3.  Add a bay window which draws the player's focus.
#217
I don't like relaxing.
#218
It is cool.    But from the experience I drew from the Mars Rover thread no one in this community will care unless they themselves were on the bus    :P
#219
General Discussion / Re: the Skyscraper Thread
Tue 24/06/2008 02:09:02
Those Japanese sky cities are so awesome.   Never heard of those projects... I wonder is that a private business or like the government is paying contracts to the best designs for sky cities?   

The idea is berserk but I love it.
#220
Yeah I guess those theories are cool.   Eric's hope is simple enough YET mind-blowing.   

I'd be happy with the water reserves on Mars supporting human life.   I mean, sure there's no E.T. in that scenario but its groundbreaking in every way possible and a step toward finding sustainable life on Earth.

Every pound that we send to the moon costs $300,000 so ... imagine how much that same pound costs to send to Mars.    This water makes the trip a lot more feasible.


On another note:  NASA announced the first child in Africa to receive his Martian Snowcone!   It's South African Charles Grumbo!   Grandson of American oil tycoon Dalton Grumbo!  Congrats Charlie!   Enjoy your snowcone!

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