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Okay.....bigbrother

I take it you think an apology after will stop you being added to the list......
Quote:-
"Oh man, Czar. You're in trouble now!
Foz will undoubtedly cut off you hand and masturbate with it.
Sorry, Foz, I couldn't resist. "

Great idea though i did`nt think of that........

I`m not going to add you to the list cause i want you to finish Apprentice 2..........Which looks shit hot from the screenie of the guy with red skin...

Okay czar thats you added to my hit list ......just under vel.....


Whoohahhaaaahhhaaaa

Dave G:
I agree........
The W***ing scene was put in as an after thought and was in bad taste and in hindsight i should have excluded it.......

I have since found in the form of APOC:VEL that you can get a message across with out showing the nitty gritty.....that said the prequel will follow the same sort of mould as FB 1....there is a wanking scene but it will be less graphic as the person will be in a bush and the bush will move....and it will sort have something to do with the plot...

I did`nt start out to make a controversial game that would get loads of attention because of it.....I just made the game released it and then as people started to say this and that ,i actaully realized it was a bit near the mark in places.....
I`m glad though as it`s still  being mentioned even after a few months...

The black box you`re not the first to mention it.....

There is no alternative ending.....

The Prequel has the black box in it and as the game is set before FB1 it`ll make sense what it is used for....

Thanks for the kind words....i tried to put as much detail as i could in to the game.....
As i think even though we make amatuer games we should still aspire to a professional level....
I have gone on abit so i`ll leave it there ..........and continue my work on the prequel...

fOz

No it was`nt window mode....i don`t think it was anyhow.

It was hard to determine the colour change when over a H/spot.

I just thought it could do with a little altering....e.g.  slightly bigger or the colours standing out a bit better.

.....I did`nt read the manual though thats why i did`nt know about the colour change til you posted.....

So my comment about clicking everwhere was based on the fact i did`nt notice the colour change.
Apart from that the game can be played with out need to read the manual.....which is a good sign....

Elianto: wheres that last post coming from........??

Read my previous post and think what it says:

It was the only major niggle.....(means that the fact the up/down missing it ain`t to bad).

also the cursor was a little small..(hardly me ripping the game apart....someone said flashbax cursor was too big so i made it smaller....i agreed with the comment).

Good luck if you intend to pursue this.(Means vel GOOD LUCK)...

I`d be interested in the results.(Means i look forward to your future releases..).


nuff said.

Vel....if you do a prequel please think about the up/down thing as it would make the whole expierience better.....
It was the only major niggle.....

also the cursor was a little small..

Good luck if you intend to pursue this.

I`d be interested in the results.


FfoOzZ

Elianto
You`re right it was bolted on as an after thought.........
And was`nt part of the original idea....

I tried to intwine it with the part where hannibal talks about vels childhood.

Any how i think ADAV has failed as the game is downloadable and our days of vel bashing are coming to a close.

Until he annoys anyone that is.....

Don`t forget to vote......elianto.....no pressure ofcoarse.

laters      foz

Elianto

The scream bit was a way of putting the horror  element in.....i refrained from showing any violence......and as already stated vel could have fainted rather than been killed.........who knows.

i`m glad you liked the game and hope you will vote....

You are sitting on the fence.

Why bother doing graphics at all......
Maybe you should make text adventures.(You would`nt need any walkcycles or firstperson.)
The sign of a good game is making everything graphics,playability and plot as user friendly and a joy to play rather than a chore.

Would sam and max or any other adventure game have been any good if the creators had been lazy and thought that sideways animation was enough even though it looks shite when the charater goes up screen...cause it did`nt bother them.
These games had a lot of attention to detail which with all the other elements ....story,puzzles made them the great games they are....

As for not voting in the mags comp.....theres only 3 entries i`m sure it would`nt be hard to play the other 2.....then vote..
(The other enties are very good and worth playing..)
As a previous winner i would have thought you would have been interested.

Your tone....eg
Quote:
"First, foz, have you heard about the newest invention? It is called punctuation."
Is that of someone who is very angry..and needs to get a dig back in order to feel better.
I did`nt realize we where back at skool.

Second..
Maybe you should go into film making.........
Tell the story with no interaction.
Becuase a game needs to have some player particapation.
Quote: "I did not do the walking animations because.... because I was goddamn lazy."
I don`t think this is good enough....(you would rip the piss out of someone for doing and saying this)..

Lastly ......
I liked the game and did`nt say it was crap...

I just hope in future Ags ezine`s your remember your own quote:.... "because I was goddamn lazy."
When picking apart someone elses hard worked on creation.

I`m just commenting in a truthful manner......


Ps....i hope i`ll get your vote in the MAGS comp...

You did`nt do as i said ........take the comments as they are intended.....

I did`nt say it was CRAP.....

You should be proud of your game .....

You`re very critical of others work.....

Apoc:Vel does`nt have any wanking or severed hands .....

I thought the whole point of adventure games was to tell a story....
But allow some interaction....in the form of player needs to get a door open but does`nt have a key......the player then uses different ideas to get around problem.

I said i thought the game was okay and in my opinion not as you`d stated better than flashbax or apoc :vel.....

And you forgot to mention the fact about what i said about it being rushed...............

Come on vel you critisise others you need to do things like walking animations (UP/DOWN)....otherwise you can`t critisise others for not doing it.....

Just take on board where i`m coming from......i`m not bitching.....I`m just giving you a reality check.

A critic should be able to take critisism...

Right MR.Vel........

I have finished your game...

Its not too bad..

But it lacks puzzle elements to push the story forward.
The safe puzzle needs to be better incorporated...eg   the code should be...L4R3L4R1...Just a thought.
At one point once i`d done the bits with the phone that incidently virtually played itself...after a few simple clicks the game goes into movie mode almost like its an INTRO sequence.

You once said either in a PM to me or on the forum that your game would be better than flashbax in every way.....

I know i`m biased but i`d have to disagree.....
I even think this would struggle up agaisnt my 2 week mags game that has more puzzles ,charaters and a story that interconnects with what the player does......It also has an up/down animation and lots of set animations for picking up things.....

Now i think this is a 100% improvement over RECESS and i am not slating your game off ..........the music was great ,the story not bad,interface good.....more work could have gone into the animations and a little more time spent doing stuff like the UP/DOWN animations.
I feel this game was rushed......(a thing you once said about flashbax).


I  think that you need a reality check.

You`re very harsh when reviewing other peoples games so please take these comments as they are intended....

Done that,.... theres a number in bottom right...i thought that was supposed to be the code but how to input it is`nt as clear as it should be...........
There again maybe im not looking properly.........

(ive played alot of ags games and as many point n clicks as you could mention through the years so i`m not i novice)

I just can`t see what i`m supposed to do....

Go on vel throw me a fish........

Vel:  the cursor is so small its hard to notice.....(If it was easier to notice then the player would`nt need to have read the manual)

and theres a problem.....when the guy looks in the water the game runs slow and a request comes up asking for ags to acees internet....



I still can`t get passed safe ...............

I`m at the stage of giving up.....

Which is a shame as i would of liked to see a bit more of your game.

The pdf file...?(I don`t have acrobat installed)

I don`t ever read manuals......even when setting up electrical good and MFI furniture....(Thats why i end up with loads of screws afterwards)..

Can someone tell me what i`m supposed to do with that book safe....it does`nt make any sense to me....

Vel:I agree with D G on his points and also there is`nt a label gui that tells what is under the mouse.......i think you should add one to stop the aimless clicking everything.


As you can tell i have`nt got very far due to the safe puzzle.......maybe i`m missing something straight forward.......the interface is`nt as friendly as i would of liked....

I`ll keep trying...

Whos to say anything really happened to vel maybe he just fainted........

I left that open to whatever you think happened....

TK: I`m glad you liked my little creation and i think everyone including vel knows it was done in good taste and is just a bit of leg pulling.
I would appriciate your vote....it would make it all worth while.


Expect to see some of these characters in the prequel(It`ll save on doing some new characters....remixoor might have to change from being that scary guy though...)

laters

Mr.fOz

Got the game working.....

Its okay.....

Can`t work out the controls......the safe thing does`nt make sense at the moment......
I presume the code in the bottom right is the combination but how do you enter this?

Musics good...

You forgot to put an up and down walking animation.....

foz

Whats it mean.......

also....having trouble unpacking..your win rar

What??

Quo non ascendet?