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I think you should look for drawing tutorials. Especially tutorials that explain photoshop tricks.
Deviant art is a good place to look.

Has anyone seen this yet? http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/31496/Lost_Star_Wars_Intro.html

It's an old deleted Star Wars scene where Luke meets his friends.

yodaman thanks a LOT but i mean that sarcasticly because at least you could have been nice. i'm 9 actuly not 5 so shut up

Hello, 8fNJ. Graphics are great and all, but when you registered you must have seen this on top of the page:
IMPORTANT:
You MUST be at least 13 years of age to join the forums.
16 years is the preferred minimum age, but if you act maturely we accept anyone from 13-16 too.
IF YOU ARE UNDER 13 YEARS OF AGE, YOU MUST NOT JOIN THE FORUMS.
Legally, we are not allowed to let you join without getting your parent's permission, and we do not wish to get involved with the associated hassles.

Why did you register?

Let me tell you a thing or two about a thing or two.
To be honest, I don't care about "dynamic conversations". Heck, I always press through dialog when I can. I don't talk that much in real life eighter.

I'd rather had a designer focus on dynamic story and puzzle solutions then on dialog. Why do I have to solve the slider puzzle on the box if I can go to a shop and buy a hammer and a screwdriver?

And since when do adventure games hate FedEx puzzles! Plot coupon X is out of reach, but as soon as you got it you know that you need to give it to person Y to solve puzzle Z. It's a great way to get some pasing in the game, and it gives people a desire to get the item, thus playing your game obsessively.

Last, I would like to say that games are set in Game World, not real life (I sometimes forget it as well). Game World is like Movie World. If it's not about the story, character development or setting atmosphere then don't use it at all.
Real life soully excists out of events that are left out of the Movie World.

bad ones.
-Shadow of the Comet.

I've actually heard some good things about this one, why list it under bad?

Shadow of the Comet has the so called "French touch," which means that the graphics are AMAZING! ...But the gameplay sucks.
I played and finished it, and it has inspired me to make a similar game, but I never want to replay it.

Did you finish this game? I actually quite liked it. Well, I wouldn't call it bad. I'll admit it had a horribly slow begining and some dodgy puzzles though...

Black Mirror was the most linear adventure game I've ever played. I think there was a moment that I had a key, used it on a trunk, but I couldn't open it untill I talked to a guy who told me the key belonged on the trunk. The end puzzle and ending were bad. And the voice acting made my ears bleed. Black Mirror is a ok game, but that's because adventure games are of low quality these days.

I see survival horror games as adventure games. Mist clones are seen as adventure games, but there have no items to pick up or people to talk to. Indiana Jones adventure games are seen as adventure games, but from time to time you have to fight. You even have an health bar.
Besides, most survival horror games are japanese. They are bound to be different than conventional Euro-American adventure games.

Comming from you, that, well, doesn't mean anything to me.
Besides, participating is more important than winning. MAGS was created not for the competition, but to have more AGS games to play.

Wait. You worked on a mags game before the rules were set? Cheat!

Billy B. Star and the Lapaset Travel Quest.

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/billybstar.zip
(Why aren't there more mags entries!)

I any case, this is my entry.
Guess how long it took me to make.

Billy B. Star and the Lapaset Travel Quest.
http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/billybstar.zip

Horror/Mystery is popular in adventure games.

good ones.
+7th guest. 11th hour.
+Phantasmagoria 1&2. Sierra made a bunch of those real-actor slasher games.
+ObsCure.
+Braindead 13. (non adventure)
+Orion Conspiracy.
+5 Days: A Stranger.
+Alone in the Dark.

bad ones.
-Evil Dead: Hail to the King.
-Afred Hithcock: The Final Cut.
-Black Mirror.
-Shadow of the Comet.

There are many more, but these spung in mind.
You could check out the survival-horror games as well.

I think I speak for all if I say



YAY!
Now we only have to wait ten more years for the finished product...
YAY!

I still use 2.6something. I tried version 2.7something twice.
The first time I was biased because of my negative experience with OOP, and I removed it 5 minutes later.
The second try was a fair shot, because those floats and cosinus do look snazzy. But it just felt wierd, maybe not Innsmouth weird, more like from Windows to Linux weird. I didn't touch it again, and two moths later it was dragged and dropped in the waste bin.

...
As for the buttons being moved to the "Room" menu, it was done to allow you to access the commands whilst in the Areas and Objects modes, but the jury's still out on that one

Call me daffy, but why not have both buttons?

I found a video clip.

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/29528/Lordi_Hard_Rock_Hallelujah.html
(heh. reminds me of my first game)

What's with the Trapezoid obsession, b.t.w.
Yes, his music is up beat and cheery, his lyrics are witty, but he left the forums long ago. (did he not?)
I only remember him from the mixnmojo forums I briefly visited, not from here.

Salt n Peppa
with Push It Real Hard or something in the likes.

So I was think that I have to book a flight one of these days and the following points popped up.

*It will start on July 1st, but when does it end? From the 1st to the 5th or the 7th?

*Can I sleep inside, since I can't bring a tent?

*Helsinki is the only international airport in Finland (?)

*I will be almost broke when I arrive. Can I live on 100 euros for a week? I'm talking about transportation costs,
protection money that your familia demands, money for food, money for drugs, money for souvenirs, ect. In other words...

*Will we be roaming about a lot and...

*Is Finland an expensive country?

*What is the drug policy in Finland anyway. Just wondering, really.

AH! That's why you disagree?

What I was thinking:
I don't like Noir. It shows the fear for ethnic minorities like blacks, latino's, homo's, jews and in the X-files even aliens is correct.
I see messages like.
"These minorities are here to destroy the family values."
"To come in contact with their culture will rot away your life just like that of the detective."
"Stay in the suburbs"

Clearly old fashioned.

More than six decades later and still no desrtuction of family values. It seems we have nothing to fear.

Sorry about the unclear message.

Because it's "simply put."

It doesn't fall under the strict definition of "film noir," and the type of film it is differs in important respects from what's normally understood by film noir.

Film noir is a genre a strick definition genre? More like loose theme of a dark outlived place, no hope, a crime, a villian.


I'll ignore the dog bit. If it had a point then you wouldn't srew it up with retorical questions.

In American hard-boiled detective fiction, hoodlums are repeately cast as foreigners and marginals, those who must be beaten back because they pose a threat to the white, heterosexual, middle-class values.

It'd be nice if you indicated when you were quoting someone else. See how we're now suddenly talking about "American hard-boiled detective fiction," not film noir? Burns, for all the problems with her argument, is a lot more careful about terminology than you are.

I already did. And you are way to carefull.


reading...

And you still haven't offered any solid points. None of this X-Files alien bullshit is solid. If you can come up with a decent argument on this matter, I promise I'll vote you for best debater in next years FOREGO's. Seriously, it really sounds like you're substituting your teachers opinions as your own.

Threatening is the only persuasive argument.
I'm not very intimidating, so you don't have to worry.

The proof:
I googled "Film Noir" and it came up with this http://www.filmsite.org/filmnoir.html
[Classic film noir developed during and after World War II, taking advantage of the post-war ambience of anxiety, pessimism, and suspicion.]
The argument:
So the audiance was afraid, depressed and lacked trust. The film makers don't use a suburbian family to describe that feeling, but use a dark city instead. The (anti)hero is a depressed, lower class, white male. He can't trust anybody, he has a low set of morals and is a criminal or has connections in the underworld. Not a family guy, in fact the family is not present in the noir movies. The world without family values.


HELM: Let make it very clear that I do NOT see film noir as message to spread racism. This must be the bandwagon propaganda. Racism would be if the hero shows he is superior towards the ethnic minorities. However, the hero, although white male, is fully intergrated in the dark world. And he is not happy with that.
The noir film shows minorities as weird and as people with lower morals.
Subconscious or not is irrelevant, the message stayed the same.

Furthermore, you seem to be avoiding all the pertinent arguments made against your case by snarky, pete or eric or whomever. Do you read what people tell you, try to make sense of them and approach the probability of them being more grounded than yours, or do you just read them and react to them, trying in any way to prove your're 'right'? Nobody's 'right' when they critique art, but some positions can be accepted more easily than others. I for one, having watched a lot of film noir but having no bias either for or against it, cannot say honestly that there's anything to accept in your position as you've presented it so far.
Furthermore you are rudely disservicing the people you're discussing with, by quoting sometimes very thorough positions, with a lot of thought put behind them, and then replying by an unrelated one-liner or another. You're being reactionary. If in the bottom line, you're not prepared to accept that there's a chance of you being wrong about this, then you should not be discussing it.

That is untrue. I think I have written the most in this debate. Besides, I prefer short text, and put just as much effort in them as long text. And as if an argument is not vallid if it's under 200 words.
As for the "arguments" given. I have given agruments as well Ã, examples. Most only tried to find a loophole in my arguments, or ask a question that I already explaned. So I find it quite odd that you point this out towards me.
And what can I say about those one hit wonders like

There is no argument here, you're talking out of your anus. It requires no more effort than that.

Congratulations! I can't find a counter argument for this, except something that starts with "your mother..."
Yup.

What this discussion lacks is people who write down their opinion. Like "Nah Jet, you're way off. The croocks in film noir represent the trees and the vines in a jungle."
But I mostly see people disagreeing, and askink me why they disagree with me. Very odd.

Everything in film noir that isn't white, middle class, hetrosexual, male is bad.

But not everything that is one or all of them, is good. The villains are white, heterosexual, middle or upper class and usually male. So how this distinction shows a discrimination?

To throw the audience off. To keep the audience guessing and awake.
Besides, do you think that the public would tolerate a black criminal making more money than them?