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I've seen fly washings it hands, so much better than you!

I'll wash my hands with the blood of your entrails!

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> My penis is twice as long as your sword!

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Your eyepatch was sewn from your mother's moustache.

At least I know my mother, ya salty bastard! ARrrrrh!

> Could you please stop talking? Your breath is like napalm in the morning!

I've never seen someone prance around as idiotically as you...

You do not recognize finesse even if I'd spell it for you!

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I have defeated practice dummies more worthy than you!

I hear you like to wear stockings and suspenders when sword-fighting you practice...

Well, I hear...Wait, I actually never heard of you!

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> You have the athletic build of a legless turtle!

Sorry about that!

>Is that the smell of poop or is it your natural odour?

I'd do it but my amphetamine dealer is out of town. Good luck with that!

Even your right arm rejects your advances.

That's because my third leg performs so well!

Phil Spector must have written all of them!

My grandmother throws a better swing!

I love the alternative rock scene, although americana is up there as well.

Favorite band is stuck to me like clam to a rock: The Smiths

From Dylan to Kasabian I love a good album and kind of turn down one-hit bands/singers and whatever is on the mainstream today. I may listen to it in 5 years time and enjoy it...

On topic:
we know AGS can't do many things but what it does, it does well. I personally love the power of GUI's.
Can we expect a faster engine in future versions (with all the code being re-coded? Is this the right term?).
If my question sounds silly, what I mean is that I find most ags games with some stuff going on the screen to be a bit slow visually. It shouldn't be like this because we are recreating 90's technology, and computers today are much faster. This is my ignorant idea of it.
I know there are modules to "tween" things around, but are we having in the future some smoother/faster graphics? I don't mean 3D, of course.

[Lt. Smash]

Lt. Smash
I don't blame science for all the bad things in the world but do blame science for inventing the bomb.

You are totally right and actually you have just agreed on my opinion. The kings, emperors, the popes and the clerks they did justify war because of god and their religion. People wouldn't have killed to millions if the only reason would be land. Because religion exists, the emperors could abuse it to make people believe war is good. So if there were no religion many wars wouldn't have existed and many wars wouldn't be so disastrous.

Well, kings, emperors, popes did justify many wars with religion, this is a fact. If there was no religion back then I believe the kings and emperors would have had to become much better politicians. Your idea that all the wars ended during the monarchy era is wrong. People still fight as we speak. And sorry to tell you but land and resource is still the main prize.

I'm sorry that I bore you but what do you want? If you like I can invent a new definition of atheism and/or theism but I don't think this would make this debate more clever.

Don't bother.

Problem,

I know what you probably wanted to say though (and I read the whole thread), but we shouldn't confuse individuals with science, just as we shouldn't confuse individuals with religion in general.

Thanks for that.
I totally agree with what you just wrote.

Well, my point is that you made science responsible as if science was a person

No I did not make science responsible. In fact, I want to expose the fact that men creates science and then applies it to whatever means. If you took the time to read this thread you would know what are my thoughts on the subject.

Science can't be held responsible for the bomb, because this would be insulting towards scientists in general.

Those particular scientists can surely be held responsible for the bomb. And scientifically the bomb was a huge technology breakthrough.
But I can separate things, I have no problem with that.
Scientists are men and women just like the rest of us. They have the notion that what they are creating may kill. Removing any responsibility from them because they are scientists is a very dangerous path. But of course I'm not blaming the guy that researches a cure for a disease.

[Problem,]

Problem,

Sorry, but a few scientists are not science as a whole(...)

Maybe, but they were the best of the best. Some of them are even universal iconic like Einstein.

So the USA had the leading technology to drop the bomb? Oh, of course this means poor USA had no choice, they simply HAD to throw it, because of science, you know? This is just ridiculous.

Yes it is ridiculous. Because you wrote it, not me. I did not say USA did not have a choice. In fact, as a reply to many posts here, my focus is that men is as "dangerous" to humanity than god.
Anyway, the Americans did spend 2Billion dollars to make the bomb. Not because, but through science they did manage do built it.
The rest of your rants about technology is not even funny. Humans create technology and decide what to do with it. Not God and obviously not technology itself. Why you retrieved that from my words is a complete unknown.

kconan,
I am nobody to judge if the bomb was better than invading Japan or not.

[Khris,]

Khris,

What I hate about religion is not jesus or the bible(...)

So, there is hate after all. This was pretty evident since the start. From this quote on you mention religious fundamentalists who blindly use religion as a excuse to get their revenge on other men. No sane person will go against you on this. But, either for power, land or resources, men will always justify their ways with some kind of "higher" reason in order to obtain what they do not own.
How a country of intelligent, good people, went on to conquer the world based on a "blue-eyes and pale skin" concept of the world (it still goes on, see the lunatic in Iceland) is something that should make every one of us to think about how fragile we really are. Looks like a good propaganda is enough to do the trick.

(...)I oppose ignorance in all forms.

So do I. The difference is that I don't hate ignorants.

What I hate is how religions manage to turn nice, caring human beings into somebody who'll say that owning another human as property is not bad in every circumstance(...)

What I hate is how politicians manage to turn nice, caring human beings into somebody who'll say that exterminating another human is not bad in every circumstance.

This is just meaningless polemics. The same could be said about any of your posts.

We agree on this one, then.

At a point where you disagree with the Vatican of all things, what's even really the point of calling yourself Catholic any longer, "modern" or not? This is the definition of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

No, this is me thinking about what religion means to me and how should I accept it. This is me not throwing myself into something I don't fully agree.
This is me taking what I feel is important from a religion and putting in perspective/discarding what I do not think is valuable to me.

Lt. Smash,

Why do you keep making science responsible for Nagasaki and Hiroshima? Did science decide to kill hundreds of thousand civilists to decide war in favor of the Allies? Or where it the USA who finally dropped the bombs?

Well, science is indeed responsible for Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There was a joint effort of top leading scientist and a powerful nation to build a bomb that would and did kill a large amount of humans. Because most of us were on the allies field, the bomb may be seen as the "right" way to end the war.
The USA did drop the bomb, because they had the leading technology and the funds to do it.

Do you agree that god and religion are responsible for hundreds of wars where millions of people died because of their different beliefs? If not, then stop pissing on things that you obviously will never understand.

As long as I don't piss at your door, I'll piss everywhere I want, dude. Lot's of people have died in wars. Land and resources are what drives people to fight. Then they use "excuses" to justify it. Religions was/is one of them.
I'm sure you obviously will never understand that there are other "justifications" to attack a nation.

Could you come up with an example of why atheists are boring? People who are open for new ideas, new inventions, new experiences do you call boring? Just my opinion but people who live like they used to live 2000 years before and not trying new things are boring.

I'm sorry but your point of view on this debate is neither new or inventive or whatever. It's just boring to answer you.

Eric,
I've been trying to say in this debate that modern Catholics can distance themselves from the ancient rules from the Bible, or antiquated resolutions from the Vatican. Modern Catholics follow Jesus and his life more than anything else.

I'm back.
This has been all about Khris making a point. It was to me, to Monkey and I can understand that. Personally I stick with the idea that Khris had a really bad experience with religion or religious people, this hate towards religion is almost biblical.
With monkey I understand that Khris got a bit upset that the brightest coder in AGS is religious, I imagine his "NO!" scream when he found out.
But with Baron? C'mon Khris! He had the most reasonable posts around this thread.
And it seams to me that you just don't want to loose a debate, man. You go around picking every little "fault" on one's post and it's common from you to stall conversation and even give opposite meaning to sentences.

And how can you absolve scientists from Hiroshima and Nagasaky?
Because they didn't drop it?
The scientists that built the bomb knew exactly what they were creating.
Could a common guy split the atom, do the formulas and maths, handle the uranium (massive enrichment laboratory/plant was constructed)?
The Manhattan Project cost 2 Billion Dollars.
Scientists who invented the atomic bomb under the Manhattan Project: Robert Oppenheimer, David Bohm, Leo Szilard, Eugene Wigner, Otto Frisch, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Niels Bohr, Emilio Segre, James Franck, Enrico Fermi, Klaus Fuchs and Edward Teller. They were considered the greatest minds around that time.
They were the most brilliant minds around 1939, Khris.
They had the capability to understand life, religion, science, god, God or gods and all the things that make the universe and still they consciously decided to make a bomb.

So, I better have a 2000 year old story about God's wrath than a very recent example of what scientists can do.
Sounds childish doesn't it? But this are the "weapons" you've been using on this debate.
And yes, atheists are boring and there are dozens of blogs and forums where they get together and debate their solitude. Check it out.

Your skill is growing day by day, Icey. Nice drawings, man!

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