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#121
Quote from: Mandle on Sun 26/08/2018 09:44:51
AND ALSO:

If you are the Psychic, my good fellow, HOW ON EARTH DID I KNOW THAT DAYOWLRON WAS THE NURSE IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Remember back to when the Psychic told me who the Nurse was... I don't remember that being you!
Wait, what?
That's not what happened, though, right? You decided not to scan the nurse but take his word for it, according to what you said earlier.
This seems like such an obvious lie as if you wanted to get caught? Unless I'm missing something.

Anyway, I'm not changing my vote, because:
Quote from: Stupot on Sun 26/08/2018 09:07:51
I scanned Cat on night one. CAT IS A KILLER! I needed someone to trust so I scanned Mandle on night two because I had convinced myself that he was the nurse. But as it turned out, MANDLE IS THE PARTY HOST!! (aka the other killer)
That's great! So if you're telling the truth, we'll know tomorrow after lynching you. Then we'll be 3-2 when we know for sure that Mandle & Cat are the murderers and we won.
So no dilemma for me, even though Mandle has lost my trust, I'll be staying with Stupot as my vote.


Quote from: Mandle
Yes, by all means! Everyone please PM Dayowlron and ask him if I requested that he should protect Cat.
So Dayowlron contacted me and said that Mandle asked him to tell me that he didn't ask him to protect Cat.
This, unfortunately, is not really relevant, though, as Mandle could have given a random name to Dayowlron as the psychic. Dayowlron hasn't mentioned whether or not he actually spoke with name given to him by Mandle. I asked him specifically now and waiting a response.
#122
Quote from: Snarky on Sat 25/08/2018 12:36:25
"Pitch Me Baby One More Time"
(laugh)
I briefly considered having Britney Spears as the star of my game pitch.
#123
Oh dear, I just spent 4 hours yesterday burying Riaise, and now there's another body? And so much blood?
I wish the murderers would do a cleaner murder tonight.

Sad to hear about dayowlron, he was pretty much the only person I was sure is a good person.

Anyway, new plan and I think it's solid:
If Mandle is lying then dayowlron knows the identity of the second murderer. There is an unlikely possibility that Mandle lied to dayowlron twice and also gave him a random name for the psychic. But dayowlron could have easily talked to the "psychic" and verify that. dayowlron, in case you didn't converse with the psychic please PM me (and everybody) with this information so that we'll reevaluate our actions.

So, assuming dayowlron talked with the "psychic", if it's not the real psychic, then the real psychic should message dayowlron telling him that. Then dayowlron can notify everybody with PMs that there are 2 claimed psychics (without yet revealing their names).
Now, if nobody claims 2nd psychic I have no reason to not believe Mandle, and Stupot must indeed be a murderer.
If there are 2 claimed psychics then it's either Mandle + 1st psychic or Stupot + mystery person. In that case I suggest we lynch Stupot anyway. If we're wrong then we'll remain 3-2 the next day but will full knowledge about both murderers -> we win.
If we're right then it's 4-1 and we'll keep guessing.

So with that:
Vote to lynch: Stupot.

And hoping to hear from dayowlron before the end of this day so we know if there are 1 or 2 psychics.
#124
Quote from: cat on Thu 23/08/2018 07:05:38
Which statement did you find suspicious and why?

This statement:
Quote from: cat on Wed 22/08/2018 21:12:58
In case you made this all up, then the psychic shall step up and say so.
Because it sounds like a murderer's trick to expose the psychic.

Anyway, here's what I think we need to do:
1. Don't lynch anybody
2. If Mandle is telling the truth, then scan the nurse
3. (Not completely sure about this) if the nurse hasn't revealed itself to Mandle yet, don't!

I'll explain my reasoning: we have 25% of getting a real murderer and 75% of killing one of our own. If we don't kill anyone, then tomorrow we'll have 5 vs 2 as opposed to 4 vs 2 if we mess up, and then one more day of messing up and we're done. So by not lynching, we get one extra day.
If Mandle is being truthful, then I think scanning the nurse is a must, because if he's fooled by a murderer it's pretty much game over.

And about the nurse not coming to Mandle, a bit more complicated, and I'm not completely sure my logic here is flawless, but here goes:
If Mandle comes tomorrow saying that the nurse was scanned and was revealed a murderer, if we believe him and lynch that murderer and we're wrong, we'll lynch Mandle the next day, and the score will be (assuming we don't lynch anyone tonight): 2 good vs 1 bad, and by then we have a pretty good chance of winning.
If Mandle+nurse comes out tomorrow together then we know this: either they are both truthful or they are both murderers or Mandle is a murderer and he tricked the nurse. They wouldn't be able to point a murderer (because the nurse + Mandle was supposedly scanned). At this point if Mandle is lying then psychic should come out. That psychic should scan the nurse and we'll lynch the psychic.
If the psychic was truthful, we'll have 3-2 and we know that Mandle is a murderer and we'll also know if the nurse is a murderer, in which case we won.
Or, we'll have 2-1 again with a good shot. If the psychic was lying then that's probably best case scenario: 4-1.
If the psychic doesn't come out, then we believe them and we're also in a very good place.

Trying to do the same logic with 2 nurses coming forward seems more complicated, I'm not sure if it's better or worse, but it sounds like an unnecessary risk at this point.
#125
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 23/08/2018 04:28:19
If you are innocent then you are kind of implying that, if I'm evil, then cat might also be evil?
Well, yes, I found cat's statement also suspicious (regardless of whether you're innocent or not).
#126
Both Ponch and Ghost are back? Happy days! Good to hear from you guys :)
Now just waiting for m0ds to return :~(
#127
Oh my, this is terrible! That poor lady.
Now I need to find a shovel so we'll have proper burial.

Hmm, interesting turn of events. I must say, Mandle seemed incredibly suspicious to me yesterday, voting for me and then for cat without any apparent reason. And after last game where he himself said that's a murderer tactic to start laying blames early.
So I have reason to doubt his statement now. Then again, it is likely that he acting suspicious really did trigger the psychic to scan him, but it might be that this was his plan all along... I mean, why would a guest start casting votes in the first day when it is clearly counter productive to the group?
It's also possible that he's making a play to sacrifice himself in order to expose the psychic early on (as cat suggested), which I'm not sure is the right thing to do.
But then again, I might be completely wrong here. grrrrr... need to think about it some more.
#128
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 21/08/2018 00:55:31
Snarky probably said it best though that this could ruin the ending of certain movies.

When the game begins, you can ask "which movies have you already seen?" and let the player check all of the movies from a list, and then only put those in the game.
#129
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 20/08/2018 15:38:08
Posing as the obvious "the butler always did it" role seems just a bit too clever to me...

Oh, and also consider the option that the butler didn't do it!
#130
I managed to find crackers in one of the cupboards. They feel a little stale, I'm afraid, but still edible. I've put them in a bowl in the main hall, you may help yourselves.
I see you found wine, I'm happy, as the wine cellar doesn't seem to have any wine. It did have alcohol, though, just not a flavor I recognize.
The label on the bottle says "Wolfsbane Mojito". If you want something stronger than wine you can find it next to the crackers. I took a sip and it's quite pungent.

So, what did I miss?
Oh, what's that?
Lock me up?
Why, I never...

Quote from: Mandle on Mon 20/08/2018 07:37:28
Fascinating family tree you have there. Is time-travel somehow involved?
I was all intending to share my family secrets with you, but now, well, I don't think you deserve this, sir. I'm afraid my family secrets will now go with me in the grave. Which I'm afraid might be soon if you lock me up, I won't hold on for long in there, and my blood will be on your conscience, young sir.
#131
Congrats to "Major Arcana"!
I voted for "The Professor", found it to be a really interesting idea, actually, with lots of potential to be a unique game, but it will definitely be hard to execute well.
"Lockdown" was my 2nd place, it's a game I would definitely want to play.

I pitched the "Two Strings Attached" idea. I didn't know it was done before, never played "Fahrenheit", I'm afraid. My main inspiration for this was actually from "Inspector Columbo", but I thought of taking it to a darker place, kind of like "Dexter". Both Columbo and Dexter really put an emphasis on the psychological games between the main characters, and I thought it would be interesting to try and transfer it to game form. Unless "Fahrenheit" already did that...
#132
Hello everybody. I must apologize for my tardiness, yet it's not easy to a man of my age to make this long journey.
Allow me to introduce myself: I am Thomas Jolly the 3rd, son of Thomas Jolly the 2nd, and grandson of Thomas Jolly the 6th.
I come from a long tradition of service providers, and been a butler for most of my life (give or take a few years in which I've tried to be an entrepreneur, but it didn't pan out).
I know I am not as esteemed as you, but I take pride in my work, and have even won several butler of the year awards (although no awards in the last few years, butler is a young man's game). It seems that I am not the only who values my work, as I've received a wonderful letter from our host admiring the service I have once given to the host, several years back.
Though I must confess, I do not remember our host, my memory is not as it once was, I'm afraid.
Anyway, the host has asked me to serve you for the duration of the party, and even though I'm not getting payed, I agreed as I were told that if I would not attend there will be no butler(!), which I found appalling.
I did not receive any further instructions, I'm afraid, so I don't really know where are this house supplies and where are the keys but I'll do my best to provide you the best service on this island.
Let me search the house now for some crackers and wine, as you must be hungry and in need of a drink. Let me know if you need anything, anything at all.
#133
The Rumpus Room / Re: Name the Game
Sun 19/08/2018 13:09:10
Frodo got it :cheesy:

Any reason you're not saying the entire name?
#134
The Rumpus Room / Re: Name the Game
Sat 18/08/2018 23:43:10
Mmmm, nope..

Another clue then:
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#135
Very sorry for your loss :~(
#136
The Rumpus Room / Re: Name the Game
Sat 18/08/2018 00:14:09
Cool, my turn:

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#137
The Rumpus Room / Re: Name the Game
Fri 17/08/2018 22:27:01
Dirty Split
#138
I've just been hired as the butler in an intriguing party (we can't have a murder party without a butler, right?).

As for giving first scan to the psychic, I guess it depends on how the roles are divided?
The nice thing about it, is that we can start the "real game" right away and don't need to wait a day when nothing really happens.
So if we're 9 people for example, 3 murderers plus first scan sounds like it might be balanced, but not sure if it can be squeezed in with 8 people or less.
#139
Also in. As for when? We can start right now.
Vote: josiah1221

I just don't buy that "I'll sit this one out".
#140
I enjoyed playing :)
And I enjoyed Sinitrena's hosting, well done!

I must say, as the fool, I didn't "feel" neutral, I felt almost completely pro-wolves, trying to be bait and take the pressure away from them.
So yeah, for a 8 people game, I support either removing the fool or doing first night with no kill.
Another alternative, btw, instead of having first night with no kill would be to give the seer the ability to scan somebody at the beginning of the game, this way we won't need to wait a day for the "real game" to begin.

Btw, if Sinitrena will host another game (and I hope so), there's a list of roles here that might give you some ideas (though a lot of these roles look more useful only when you have a lot more players, I think).

Quote from: Riaise on Tue 07/08/2018 19:55:44
I thought that gaining an ally would be more beneficial than finding a wolf so soon in the game.
I find it a very reasonable strategy, actually.
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