Puzzle Post

Mandle · Mon 21/09/2015 13:55:14

Sorry...been a bit busy proofreading and editing the english demo of "Chronicle Of Innsmouth" (which is almost ready for launch) and nursing my wife who threw out her back at work, amongst other stuff...

The answer was:

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"My nose will grow now."

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So I think Cuiki got the closest...

Anyways: NEEEEXT!!!

Cuiki · Mon 21/09/2015 14:33:29

Sorry, I didn't mean to rush you or anything.

QuoteSo I think Cuiki got the closest...

Naah, I really didn't.

I think we were pretty much all there - just variations of one and the same idea.
Besides, if Pinocchio's nose is allowed to take a few moments to buffer before it does anything, "now" probably isn't the right word either...

Mandle · Mon 21/09/2015 14:51:16

Quote from: Cuiki on Mon 21/09/2015 14:33:29
Sorry, I didn't mean to rush you or anything.

QuoteSo I think Cuiki got the closest...
Naah, I really didn't. I think we were pretty much all there - just variations of one and the same idea.
Besides, if Pinocchio's nose is allowed to take a few moments to buffer before it does anything, "now" probably isn't the right word either...

Well...If you said "My nose will grow 3 seconds from now" then potentially Pinocchio would have time to tell a lie in the meanwhile in which case the original statement would have been true and no paradox.

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The word "now" means instantly which means that it would have to be a result of what was just said. This creates the paradox in that if his nose grows then it was true in which case it wouldn't but if it didn't then what he said was a lie in which case it would grow...etc etc...

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Cuiki · Mon 21/09/2015 15:34:51

Well, what I meant was: if he says "My nose will grow now," and his nose takes a few miliseconds to process that information, he may as well be telling a lie when his nose starts growing - as "a few miliseconds" into the future wouldn't have to be understood as "now", technically speaking - and so he wouldn't be causing a paradox.

QuoteWell...If you said "My nose will grow 3 seconds from now" then potentially Pinocchio would have time to tell a lie in the meanwhile in which case the original statement would have been true and no paradox.

That's assuming he does, but what if he doesn't?

selmiak · Mon 21/09/2015 17:39:43

Quote from: Mandle on Mon 21/09/2015 13:55:14
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"My nose will grow now."
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So I think Cuiki got the closest...

OH COME ON!!!!

Quote from: Mandle on Sat 19/09/2015 17:25:57
@ selmiak: "My nose is growing."
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His nose was not growing at the time he said it was growing therefore what he said is a lie. Therefore his nose starts growing but this does not create a paradox as the moment he said it was growing has already passed...
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is growing, present, like, now!!!
I demand a recount! You were just disappointed by and didn't expect my superior intellect and that I instantly solved this no-puzzle and therefore dragged this easy riddle over 2 pages just to confuse forummembers by saying no, no, no, no again. You just kept hiding behind this no and made everyone reply and made everyone screw their brains and made everyone do some more postings in this thread. Pffft, I will never ever reply to your posts again! At least not until the next time I reply to one of your posts!

Cassiebsg · Mon 21/09/2015 19:02:43

Actually I agree with Mandle.

"is growing" is not a paradox, cause if it is growing when he said it then it's the truth, if it's not growing when he says it then it's a lie and thus his nose will grow.

selmiak · Mon 21/09/2015 21:18:51

I still don't get it

Baron · Tue 22/09/2015 03:32:38

I too would like to debate the immediacy of the word "now", which can refer to different periods depending on the scale of time conceptualized by the person uttering the word. For example, Homer J. Simpson once marvelled that "they have the internet on computers now," clearly not referring to that exact instant but to a vaguely current-ish time period. Likewise, Shakespeare's Richard III says in the opening lines "Now is the winter of my discontent / Made glorious summer by this son of York," referring again to a vaguely current state that began with their victory in battle before the play even began (that is, several hours or days before hand). I think "My nose will grow presently" or "My nose will grow right......NOW!" would be more suitable answers.

Mandle · Tue 22/09/2015 05:07:19

Quote from: Baron on Tue 22/09/2015 03:32:38
"My nose will grow right......NOW!"

Yes...I think that phrasing is the best.

Cassiebsg · Tue 22/09/2015 08:59:40

I like Atelier's sentence the best actually.

Sinitrena · Sat 26/09/2015 22:39:50

I think it's time for a new puzzle!

When is half of 10 = 5, half of 9 = 4, half of 11 = 6 and half of 12 = 7?

CaptainD · Sat 26/09/2015 22:49:41

Quote from: Sinitrena on Sat 26/09/2015 22:39:50
I think it's time for a new puzzle!

When is half of 10 = 5, half of 9 = 4, half of 11 = 6 and half of 12 = 7?

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Is this something to do with Roman numerals?

X V
IX IV
XI VI
XII VII

I'm not sure exactly how this answers the question but there is a definite pattern there. Replacing X with V gives you the "half" figure in each one.

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Wyz · Sat 26/09/2015 23:04:13

I guess

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half the X is a V (disregard the lower portion) and half the I would still be an I

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Mandle · Sun 27/09/2015 03:46:55

Holy crap you guys are fast!

Sinitrena · Sun 27/09/2015 05:43:32

Way too fast, guys!!!
Seriously, 25 minutes for the correct answer?

Stupot · Sun 27/09/2015 06:15:18

Silly riddle I just thought of (and I'm probably not the first):

What kind of tune can no one hear? Why?

Mandle · Sun 27/09/2015 09:52:04

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You can never hear your own fortune because it always lies in the future and fortune tellers are bogus...

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CaptainD · Tue 29/09/2015 22:41:12

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Neptune because it's too far away!

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Stupot · Tue 29/09/2015 23:44:23

@Mandle. Sorry I somehow missed your post. Good guess, but nope.

@CaptainD. YES! you got the right answer. But not quite the reasoning I had in mind:

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Neptune is in space, and as we know: "in space no one can hear [anything, like people screaming, for example]".

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CaptainD · Wed 30/09/2015 09:46:44

Quote from: Stupot+ on Tue 29/09/2015 23:44:23
@CaptainD. YES! you got the right answer. But not quite the reasoning I had in mind:
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Neptune is in space, and as we know: "in space no one can hear [anything, like people screaming, for example]".
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Heh... your reasoning is much better than mine!