As today is the ninth of November, I just want to ask any Germans reading this to please don't go crazy and change the course of your nation again (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_November_in_German_history) today.
Thank you.
I honestly think this post is very offending and inappropriate.
Are you assuming, just because something terrible happened a long time ago on this day, suddenly German members of this forum will commit genocide? As far as I know, there are not even elections today, that would make this post in any way relevant.
If you want to commemorate victims of the event, that's fine, but there are other (and better ways) than blaming readers that have nothing to do with it.
Quote from: cat on Sat 09/11/2024 20:05:35I honestly think this post is very offending and inappropriate.
Are you assuming, just because something terrible happened a long time ago on this day, suddenly German members of this forum will commit genocide? As far as I know, there are not even elections today, that would make this post in any way relevant.
If you want to commemorate victims of the event, that's fine, but there are other (and better ways) than blaming readers that have nothing to do with it.
I am sorry if this came across as inappropriate, and it was in no way my intention to blame german forum members for genocide.
This was merely intended as a humorous observation in November 9th in german history, because while yes, the Kristallnacht did happen on that date, several other significant events in German history also happened on the very same day, to the point it's even called "Schicksalstag" by german historians, the most recent and notable being the fall of the Berlin wall, which to my knowledge did not lead to any bloodshed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_November_in_German_history
In short, this post was meant as a funny observation on how several historical events, some terrible, but some being a push for democracy, all happened on the same date despite being decades apart. I failed to take into account how the horrors of the Kristallnacht might have been the first event on people's minds, and I apologize for not making this clearer.
I would be glad to hear more people's opinions on this, and if you or other people still find this thread in bad taste after my reply, feel free to lock or delete this post if you feel so.
Sorry for my misunderstanding, I should have looked at the linked article more closely.
The Kristallnacht was a huge topic in the news, together with some controversies regarding right-wing politicians that sadly gained more power recently here in Austria.
I agree that an incredible amount of events happened on this days (including your birthday if I saw this correctly - belated happy birthday :) )
I wonder if the month of November itself at any rate have an influence in this kind of happenings, or is purely coincidential.
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Once the day gains symbolic significance, people may schedule political or terrorist actions to that particular date for that reason, or annual remembrances may spontaneously turn into protests or agitation.
Quote from: cat on Sun 10/11/2024 14:12:27Sorry for my misunderstanding, I should have looked at the linked article more closely.
The Kristallnacht was a huge topic in the news, together with some controversies regarding right-wing politicians that sadly gained more power recently here in Austria.
I agree that an incredible amount of events happened on this days (including your birthday if I saw this correctly - belated happy birthday :) )
Thank you, and I'm glad to have been able to clear things up.
That it's also my birthday was the main reason I looked up historical events happening in that day in the first place.
I know a guy who was born on Hitler's birthday. He even grew up in the region where Hitler was born. When he went out with his friends to celebrate his birthday, he was always confronted with people who believed they were celebrating Hitler's birthday instead of his own.
Having birthday on a day with historic significance can sometimes be a bit... interesting :)
@cat I've sometimes wondered what happened to the surname "Hitler". I'm guessing everyone with it changed it? Is it even a legal surname in Germany/Austria anymore? And what of "Adolf"?
I checked an Austrian online phone book and couldn't find the surname (but maybe they just filtered the search requests?)
Adolf is still a valid first name. I even knew someone about my age with this name. It was a family tradition that the oldest son has the name Adolf (quite a common thing to do in Austria) and I think his parents had a bit of "we don't let this asshole ruin our family tradition" attitude. However, as far as I know, he didn't continue this tradition with his own kids ;)
A quick search shows almost 400 guys named Adolf in Norway. (Some of which have multiple first names.)
Quote from: cat on Wed 13/11/2024 19:34:17I checked an Austrian online phone book and couldn't find the surname (but maybe they just filtered the search requests?)
Adolf is still a valid first name. I even knew someone about my age with this name. It was a family tradition that the oldest son has the name Adolf (quite a common thing to do in Austria) and I think his parents had a bit of "we don't let this asshole ruin our family tradition" attitude. However, as far as I know, he didn't continue this tradition with his own kids ;)
On one hand, in Sweden, we've had several kings named Adolf (the latest being Gustav VI Adolf who died in 1973), but Swedish naming trends are very cyclical (so baby names that are super popular then becomes super unpopular for a few decades before getting popular again), and Adolf seems to have been a name that was already out of fashion here when the war started, and then simply never got a resurgence afterwards.