Rugby World Cup

Started by Timosity, Sat 15/11/2003 14:52:13

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Timosity

Just thought I'd start this cause it's near the end of the Competition,

There are 3 teams left, Australia, England & France.

Australia knocked out New Zealand tonight and it surprised the shit out of me, I really thought New Zealand would smash any team it played (even in the Final)

England and France play for the second spot in the Final Tomorrow night, which is probably Sunday morning in UK.

So Australia will play either France or England in the Final

I think Australia has a good chance seeing as it is at home, but anyone could win.

They should have just skipped all the games and Just had a comp between Aus, Eng, Fra, NZ, Sth Africa, maybe also Ireland, Wales & Scotland, cause no one else plays the game. It's not even played as much as other football codes in Australia.

As far as the Australian Public is concerned, They want England in the final, We love beating England at all the sports they invented, but the truth is they may even beat us for once.

Does anyone even know this is going on at the moment? The USA and Canada even had teams, they also both won 1 game each, USA beat Japan, and Canada beat Tonga (population = 1 rugby team)

I guess most people in the UK would be aware it is on, but I guess most people visiting this forum don't give a shit.

Inkoddi

You are totally right! I don't give a shit

Privateer Puddin'

while i think England will beat France (not easily, but will grind through) they will struggle against Australia, however both teams have yet to play the best they can

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Vel

I dont give a damn about rugby.

OneThinkingGal and ._.

Unhhh....hello? Why are you people being rude?

Don't like rugby or not interested, don't reply. And go post in some thread you ARE interested in. >:(

Privateer Puddin'

yes, but whos done it (certainly 2 of them) doesn't surprise me

DGMacphee

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OMG!! I DUN GVE A SHIT ETHER!!! LOL RUGBY??? WHO AERS WATCHES TAHT!1!!




(On a serious note, I'm glad to see this kinda face-off -- Despite either England or France making it to the final match, the Australia vs ?? atill should be a good game :) )
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Darth Mandarb

I just LOVE rugby ... two guys in body hose rolling around on a mat gettin' all sweaty and rubbing against eachother ...

Oh wait ... wrong sport.

I actually find Rugby fascinating!

I've never played it before (not too many places in the states for it) and I find it somewhat confusing!  So why don't we turn this into a "Go Australia in the World Cup" thread and a "Help Darth Mandarb Understand Rugby" thread?  

Any takers??

I've always wanted to try it.  I love tacklin' people.  We play a "Turkey Bowl" football game every Thanksgiving (coming up soon!!) and there's always at least one broken bone by game's end!  And Rugby looks even rougher.

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Privateer Puddin'

dont worry, i play it as Prop and i don't totally understand it ;) just there to tackle and destroy people..

Las Naranjas

I gotta feel for the All Blacks, sicne they've been firing all year whereas Australia pulled out it's only decent game of the season at the Semi final stage.

And on toughness as such, there's a split off from Rugby called Rugby League which predominates over Rugby in Australia, PNG, poor Maori districts of New Zealand and nowhere else. Since it turned professional way ago so poorer people could play (since if they got injured and thus couldn't work they were screwed) they made some changes to make it better as a spectator sport, which made it somewhat more brutal as well, and led to figures like Sattler who played most of a Grand Final witha  broken jaw. I'm just bringing it up because in a match between Australia and Britain last week, the British captain was sent off within 12 seconds for knocking out another player.

I love that game.
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LordHart

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Ugh! I hate Rugby Onion!

Compared to Rugby League, it really is shit. League is faster, the players actually know how to tackle, it isn't as sloppy as Onion, and there is no way in hell that a Rugby League game will ever have over 80 points in a single game scored by f***ing penalty goals... thats just lame.

Arrrghhhh... Ultimo Angry! Ultimo Smash!

Quote from: Las Naranjas on Sun 16/11/2003 00:52:27
And on toughness as such, there's a split off from Rugby called Rugby League which predominates over Rugby in Australia, PNG, poor Maori districts of New Zealand and nowhere else.
Actually, Rugby League is played in more countries than Rugby Union, has more people playing the game and has more domestic comps around the world. Rugby League is more predominant in the North of English, than the south. Russia has a quite successful domestic comp which keeps getting stronger (go Kazan!), the US has a 8 team comp going, and getting stronger with two new teams next year, France is finally getting their comp back into gear after being derailed by the french government who supports Union and many other countries are getting their comps in line.

Quote from: Las Naranjas on Sun 16/11/2003 00:52:27which made it somewhat more brutal as well, and led to figures like Sattler who played most of a Grand Final witha  broken jaw.
Heh, I actually know Sattler and many other old Souths players through my dad. GO SOUTHS!!!!

Timosity

Personally I prefer League over Union, (and I don't know all the technical rules of Union, It gets quite complex, and I bet most players don't know them either)

I also prefer Aussie Rules over Union, probably even soccer, but It's the world cup at the moment, and the game can be intersting to watch, (when it's flowing) They should just have penalty goals worth 2 points and drop goals 1 point, (like in League) then it's more likely the better team winning, not just the team that happens to get penalties in the right spot.

I have a feeling France will win tonight, but they're so unpredictable, but I think they'll be too quick for the English, Unless England can slow down the play, and hog the ball, I think France will win.

As for the people saying they don't give a shit, that's fair enough seeing as soccer is probably the only football code they know.

personally I can watch any code of football and enjoy it, even Gridiron and Gaelic football, I understand the basic rules of all the games.

If only Soccer players weren't such wusses, I can't believe how many times a player falls over holding his leg trying to milk a penalty, when if they were smart, they could have actually quickly got up and possibly scored a goal.

Soccer would be much better if teams actually played the whistle rather than trying to get it blown. The way it's played these days really fucks it up for me. The games got potential, but needs to be played by men, not scared little kids with too much money.

I guess people only like the sports the local media drills into their heads,
eg. europeans and soccer.
I'm glad I can enjoy them all.

Timosity

Well yet again I got it wrong, England beat France, and they didn't even score a try, That's one thing that gives me the shits about this game, you don't need to score tries to win.

England did deserve to win but went about it the wrong way IMO. (the boring bunch of wankers)

So Australia vs England in the final, It couldn't have been scripted more perfectly. There will probably be a large number of English in the crowd too, the stadium holds over 80,000.

I don't want to pick the winner cause I keep getting it wrong, but It really could go either way. A Northern Hemisphere Team has never won the world cup, but that's only a statistic and usually stats even out over long periods.

But Australia usually play well under pressure in most big sporting events, Plus the home Advantage, so it's in our favour, but the better team on the day wins the match.

I just hope it isn't won by penalty kicks and drop goals, it's just like a soccer match that is decided on penalty kicks, makes for a dissappointing result either way.

DGMacphee

I used to play Union in my first two years of high school -- hated it and didn't really understand a lot of the rules.

League is a simpler game -- would have prefered to play that.
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LordHart

Quote from: Timosity on Sun 16/11/2003 11:54:06
I don't want to pick the winner cause I keep getting it wrong, but It really could go either way. A Northern Hemisphere Team has never won the world cup, but that's only a statistic and usually stats even out over long periods.
Actually, France won the World Cup before Australia last time. And various others have won it from the Northern Hemisphere (somebody there ought to since they have the British Lions, who only lost their first game ever last year, but thats a combined team, not a international team).

Las Naranjas

Hehe, it always cracks me up when Rah rahs complain that "League is such a simple game" [and I know DG isn't complaining].

Rugby is so middle class is becomes  derived from that most middle lass of professions, law. Whatever bizaare interpretation of the rules you can get the ref/judge to turn in  favour makes you win, not the glory of competition.

Having 18 different penalties to possibly give either side at each ruck is complexity I guess, whcih working class people can't understand.

But soccer is simpler still, and it has an expected supremacy.
Just a note, for all the hoo hah the ARU has had other Rugby exapanding, the RWC, held in Australia and in which Australia was always a contender, has received lower television ratings than another world cup last year in which we weren't even a part.
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Quote from: Las Naranjas on Sun 16/11/2003 21:38:26
Hehe, it always cracks me up when Rah rahs complain that "League is such a simple game" [and I know DG isn't complaining].

Rugby is so middle class is becomes  derived from that most middle lass of professions, law. Whatever bizaare interpretation of the rules you can get the ref/judge to turn in  favour makes you win, not the glory of competition.

Having 18 different penalties to possibly give either side at each ruck is complexity I guess, whcih working class people can't understand.

But soccer is simpler still, and it has an expected supremacy.
Just a note, for all the hoo hah the ARU has had other Rugby exapanding, the RWC, held in Australia and in which Australia was always a contender, has received lower television ratings than another world cup last year in which we weren't even a part.
I was too busy to watch rugby because I tried to understand the magic of Cricket  ;D
By the way, did you know that the German Female Football (Soccer, for you Americans...) Team beat Portugal 13:0 !!!!!! WOW!

LordHart

I think I saw that story. Wasn't it because they stayed up watching porn or something? Or was that another team? :)

Timosity

Quote from: Os Último Quão Queijo ^_^ on Sun 16/11/2003 20:07:01
Actually, France won the World Cup before Australia last time. And various others have won it from the Northern Hemisphere

well it's only been going since 1987

here's the results:

1987: NEW ZEALAND 29 - 9 FRANCE

1991: AUSTRALIA 12 - 6 ENGLAND

1995: SOUTH AFRICA 15 - 12 NEW ZEALAND

1999: AUSTRALIA 35 - 12 FRANCE

so it's only early days in the competition but no team from the Northern Hemisphere has won it yet.

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