About the insult swordfighting in Monkey Island...

Started by TerranRich, Mon 23/01/2006 21:54:46

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big brother

If the swordfight is on the high seas, the comeback must rhyme with the insult.

"I will skewer you like an orange!"
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ManicMatt

Ah yes big brother, the sing-a-long section!

Um yes, I think I was confusing the useless "fight like a cow" with the arm wrestling bit. That and it's been years since I played monkey island 1. Years!  :'(

this topic is turning into a "what's your fave monkey island insult?"

Mine would be the one about hemmorhoids flaring up again. Remind me people, how did that one go? "I could beat you sitting down!" Was that it?

HillBilly


Ashen

QuoteMine would be the one about hemmorhoids flaring up again. Remind me people, how did that one go?

"I'm not going to take your insolence sitting down!"
"Your hemorrhoids are flaring up again, eh?"

I made my own insult fighting system a while back, but couldn't think of anything to do with it other than a self contained minigame. It even had a 'freestyle' mode, where you could invent your own insults and comebacks. Then I lost it in a crash. It was, I remember, reasonably simple to do if you were wanting to include it in something. The biggest problem I had was coming up with non-lame insults.
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Mats Berglinn

Quote from: big brother on Thu 26/01/2006 15:18:55
If the swordfight is on the high seas, the comeback must rhyme with the insult.

"I will skewer you like an orange!"

Almost, Big Bro, but it's actually: "I'll skewer you as a saw at a buffét!" (Or something like that, it's been awhile since I played MI3) "When I'm done with YOU, you'll be a boneless fillet".

The orange thing was Guybrush way to stop Haggis, Cutthroat Bill and Van Helgan's song since the word "orange" is a very difficult word to rhyme.

Speaking of the Insult matches, if it weren't because of CJ keep postponing the "Scrolling dialog" bit for AGS, we would already done something like that for AGS. I can't believe that CJ doesn't do that for the current version. Ah man, if does keep doing this then we'll all have got adult great-grandkids when AGS does have that possibility.

For the favorite insult/comeback, I think it's: "Eun Gardé! Touché!" "Oh, that is so cliché!".

Scummbuddy

I believe we do have a scrolling dialog module that you can use this with.
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big brother

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Quote from: Mats Berglinn on Thu 26/01/2006 18:48:23
Almost, Big Bro, but it's actually: "I'll skewer you as a saw at a buffét!" (Or something like that, it's been awhile since I played MI3)

Hahaha... If only that insult made sense! Silly Lucasarts! They should have kept Ron Gilbert.

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The orange thing was Guybrush way to stop Haggis, Cutthroat Bill and Van Helgan's song since the word "orange" is a very difficult word to rhyme.

Umm...yeah...That was my joke. Since there technically isn't a word in the English language that rhymes with "orange", an insult ending with that word would be unstoppable on the high seas. Hence, "I will skewer you like an orange!"

Guybrush just wasn't clever enough to figure that one out.
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Quote from: big brother on Thu 26/01/2006 19:53:12
Quote from: Mats Berglinn on Thu 26/01/2006 18:48:23
Almost, Big Bro, but it's actually: "I'll skewer you as a saw at a buffét!" (Or something like that, it's been awhile since I played MI3)

Hahaha... If only that insult made sense! Silly Lucasarts! They should have kept Ron Gilbert.

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The orange thing was Guybrush way to stop Haggis, Cutthroat Bill and Van Helgan's song since the word "orange" is a very difficult word to rhyme.

Umm...yeah...That was my joke. Since there technically isn't a word in the English language that rhymes with "orange", an insult ending with that word would be unstoppable on the high seas. Hence, "I will skewer you like an orange!"

Guybrush just wasn't clever enough to figure that one out.

Well, it made sense to me. Besides, if they kept Ron Gilbert then Guybrush and Elaine would never married and I'm totally against that kind of idea, that's one of the reasons why I like MI3 much better than MI2. Oh well!

By the way, who says that he didn't but I think it would be unfair for the other pirates to use such an insult so it could been a "forbidden" insult. It's not like Ozzie's insults in MI4, they're just insults that the Caribbish pirates doesn't know (maybe not yet).

Tom S. Fox

Quote from: Mats Berglinn on Thu 26/01/2006 18:48:23
The orange thing was Guybrush way to stop Haggis, Cutthroat Bill and Van Helgan's song since the word "orange" is a very difficult word to rhyme.
Oh yeah, this song.
I was surprised, when I read about it for the first time, because they never sang when I played the game.
Do I have to do something special to maken them sing?
Or is it because I have the german version?
Maybe they removed it, because it was too hard to translate.

TerranRich

Status: Trying to come up with some ideas...

Grapefruitologist

No, it's "I'll skewer you like a sow at a buffet!" and "When I'm done with you, you'll be a boneless fillet!"
I haven't played in years but I memorized all the insults, basically... I spent hours insult swordfighting even after I won the master swordfighter.
Then there's...
"Oh yeah?!"
And "I am rubber, you are glue."
And "I'm shaking, I'm shaking." Those were the losing ones.
"I've met apes more polite than you!"
"I'm glad to see you've finally attended your family reunion."
"You fight like a dairy farmer!"
"How appropriate, you fight like a cow."
"This is the END for you, you gutter crawling curr."
"And I've got a little TIP for you, get the POINT?"
My favorite was probably the formaldehyde one, but I sorta forget how that one went, so many loooong wooords...
And wasn't there one like that, something about body odor or something?
There were lots of good ones... but I kinda forget them now.
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ManicMatt

Possibly Thomas, after all what is orange in your language, and does it rhyme with anything? If it does rhyme then I'm guessing they removed it because the joke is lost.

I'd also like to point out that I did hint at big brother about the pirates song, before anyone else, but I figured he didn't need recorrecting like Mats was keen to point out. Ã, :P

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Tom S. Fox

Quote from: ManicMatt on Thu 26/01/2006 21:43:44
Possibly Thomas, after all what is orange in your language, and does it rhyme with anything? If it does rhyme then I'm guessing they removed it because the joke is lost.
"Orange" is spelled the same way in german, but it's pronounced in the french way.
Therefore, there are not too many words, wich would rhyme with it, if there is one at all.
A word that has definitively no rhyme is "Mensch", wich translates to "man"/"human".
But we disgressed into this german-topic again, and I'm afraid to piss some people off with it, so I'll stop now.

But if this song would be sang every time in the original version, they must really have removed it.
I once checked the code with ScummREVISITED, and discovered a variable, that is checked before the song comes, but I never found out, where this variable gets altered.
It indicates the language version, I guess.

Quote from: ManicMatt on Thu 26/01/2006 21:43:44
I'd also like to point out that I did hint at big brother about the pirates song, before anyone else, but I figured he didn't need recorrecting like Mats was keen to point out.Ã,  :P

"Ah yes big brother, the sing-a-long section!" See? See?
Yeah, yeah, sorry!

Grapefruitologist

Words and phrases that rhyme with orange:   (0 results)


Sorry, no perfect rhymes were found.

Looked it up in the rhyming dictionary... and it's true. Nothing rhymes with orange.

Words and phrases that rhyme with mensch:   (5 results)

1 syllable:
bensch, ensz, hensch, klensch, rensch
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TerranRich

Orange, purple, silver, and month are the common English words that have NO rhyming complements. Unique words that also follow this rule are eighth, twelfth, ninth, fifth, etc., and well as others that I can't remember right now.
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Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens

Terran Rich- OH YEAH?

"Once I get started you'll be down by the fifth(round)."

"Methinks you've been watching too much Revenge of the Sith."







Mats Berglinn

Quote from: ProgZmax on Fri 27/01/2006 07:49:50
Terran Rich- OH YEAH?

"Once I get started you'll be down by the fifth(round)."

"Methinks you've been watching too much Revenge of the Sith."








Clever rhyme but the insult doesn't make any sense.


Tom S. Fox

Quote from: Grapefruitologist on Thu 26/01/2006 22:36:35
Words and phrases that rhyme with mensch:Ã,  Ã, (5 results)

1 syllable:
bensch, ensz, hensch, klensch, rensch
Err... what kind of rhyming dictionary was that?
Because none of these word are meaningful german terms!

vict0r

Because Thomas knows absolutely all german terms!

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