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Tramponline · Tue 21/05/2013 18:23:14

Quote from: Leon on Tue 21/05/2013 17:20:01
That's what I've been saying all the time. Just check the games db to see if the link points to agsa download (not games page). If not, check if the game's available on agsa. If it is, change the link to point there,

Yep, that's what we have been doing all along...

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if it isn't and the games is elsewhere, create the page and download on agsa and point the games db to that direction.

No one has told me we were able to do that..?! That would've saved a lot of time!!! Mediafire...*mumblemuttercurse*

arj0n · Tue 21/05/2013 18:58:17

Quote from: Tramponline on Tue 21/05/2013 18:23:14
Quote from: Leon on Tue 21/05/2013 17:20:01
if it isn't and the games is elsewhere, create the page and download on agsa and point the games db to that direction.
No one has told me we were able to do that..?! That would've saved a lot of time!!! Mediafire...*mumblemuttercurse*

Here's where Peder will come to the rescue

I think you/we will need a special account for that.
@Peder: strange, I seem to be unable to login at agarchives... (or has it never been working so far? can't remember...)

EDIT:
Just been talking with Peder about this and I quote him:
"There is currently no way of adding games on AGSA...
But it will hopefully come very soon"

AGA · Tue 21/05/2013 22:18:20

Okay, now all games with an AGS Archives entry (e.g. http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/276/) have a link to the relevant AGSA page, assuming said page has a download link.

arj0n · Tue 21/05/2013 22:38:46

Nice!

EDIT:
But some ags-db games has an AGSA DL-link that ends up an 'GameID/0/', 2 examples:

Indiana Jones and the Crown of Solomon demo 2.1 (by CJ entertainment) has as AGSA dl-link: http://agsarchives.com/download/GameID/0/ in stead of: http://agsarchives.com/download/GameID/606/
King's Quest II+ VGA (by AGD Interactive) has as AGSA dl-link: http://agsarchives.com/download/GameID/0/ in stead of: http://agsarchives.com/download/GameID/118/.

Or will all these these 'GameID/0/' links be correct by the Image Updaters?

AGA · Tue 21/05/2013 23:14:26

No, I just accidentally checked whether a game had an AGSA entry the wrong way! Fixed now.

arj0n · Tue 21/05/2013 23:38:47

almost there, by those where you removed the "AGSA /0/" link you seem to have left a hardreturn or something between the last line and the closing bracket:

If the image doesn't work, please report that.
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in stead of:
If the image doesn't work, please report that.)

example

just a small thing

EDIT2:
Still I don't get why for example Indiana Jones and the Crown of Solomon demo 2.1 has no AGSA link anymore while it does has an AGSA page & AGSA DL link.
For KQ II+ VGA same thing (except that the AGSA DL link for this game is an external url)
While III Spy still does have a correct AGSA link in the AGS-DB while it also does has an existing AGSA page and DL link...

AGA · Tue 21/05/2013 23:56:13

Fixed the bracket.

Because the title of the game in the AGS games page is not identical to the one in the AGS Archives. Not really much we can do about that, since having non identical matching is too open to mistakes. If you want to provide a list of examples of this though, I'd be happy to fix them manually.

AGSA pages where the link isn't hosted locally won't be returned, because that's pointless. It's having a reliable link on AGSA we care about!

arj0n · Wed 22/05/2013 00:21:31

Quote from: AGA on Tue 21/05/2013 23:56:13
Because the title of the game in the AGS games page is not identical to the one in the AGS Archives. Not really much we can do about that, since having non identical matching is too open to mistakes. If you want to provide a list of examples of this though, I'd be happy to fix them manually.

Ah so that's why, that makes sense.
And yes, I can get you such list. Probably by tomorrow.

Quote from: AGA on Tue 21/05/2013 23:56:13
AGSA pages where the link isn't hosted locally won't be returned, because that's pointless. It's having a reliable link on AGSA we care about!

Dedicated links indeed

AGA · Wed 22/05/2013 11:32:04

I just added a thing where authorised people can set the AGSA link on the paneledit page. If you don't know what that means, ignore this message!

Narushima · Wed 22/05/2013 13:59:13

Speaking of AGSA, there is a problem I keep running into. Whenever my search contains an apostrophe, like "king's quest" it always results in "There are no games in the archive with "king's quest" in its title". If I search for "king" alone, the two King's quest games are there.
Why is that?

AGA · Wed 22/05/2013 14:43:31

Probably because the game names are stored in the database escaped, while the search strings aren't, or vice versa. Should be a quick fix for Peder when he reads your message!

arj0n · Wed 22/05/2013 16:19:50

@Narushime: that's a know 'feature flaw' of AGSA... For now it's easier to use the 'view By letter' option.

@AGA: Here I uploaded 2 csv files:

- AGS-AGSA-Final-(agsalinksonly).csv
- AGS-AGSA-Final.csv

AGS-AGSA-Final-(agsalinksonly).csv contains only the ags gamepages where agsa has a download link for.
-AGS DB gamepage urls [sorted on this field] (per 21-05-2013)
-AGS DB gamepage gametitles
-agsa DL urls (1)
-agsa gamepage game titles

AGS-AGSA-Final.csv contains all ags gamepages and if available also the agsa download link.
-all the AGS DB gamepage urls [sorted on this field] (per 21-05-2013)
-all the AGS DB gamepage game titles
-all the agsa DL urls (1)
-all the agsa gamepage game titles

(1)
For the collumn "AGS-DL-Link" in the file:
<AGSA link> = direct downloadlink from AGSA
"Coming soon" = has gamepage but no dl-link yet
"Buy" = has gamepage but no only a 'buy'-link
"No Gamecard" = has no gamepage at all

So to get all correct agsa dl-links in the ags-db maybe remove all the current AGSA-dl links from the ags-db and redo the job using the file AGS-AGSA-Final-(agsalinksonly).csv?

-Arj0n.

Peder 🚀 · Wed 22/05/2013 18:23:58

I'm on my phone in mc donalds but thought I'd check this thread while I'm somewhere with internet.
AGA, the agsarchives db has all AGS games and AGSA games minus a weeks worth of games merged together, with both the AGS game id and current AGSA id stored in it. You could use that instead of looking for same titles!

The search with ' is indeed not working properly, this will be sorted with the new build as soon as i finish it!

I'm without internet for a week as I've just moved, so I'll only be checking his thread whenever I'm somewhere with internet

.

selmiak · Wed 22/05/2013 20:09:06

don't gain too much weight when going online Peder

AGA · Wed 22/05/2013 20:29:46

Thanks Arj0n and Peder. Using this info I've added what should be all the valid AGSA download links, regardless of whether the AGSA name is completely identical to the one in the AGS db.

Tramponline · Thu 23/05/2013 08:35:57

I'm going through the "broken links + broken downloads" unavailable list (as is) at the moment, contacting the authors. Could everyone who contacted game authors so far (during this effort!

) send me a quick PM, about who they contacted and whether per e-mail or PM? This way I could avoid spamming the authors with messages.

Two entries I was able to isolate so far:

Crazy Mansion/ Maniac Mansion 3 - never was - there were a few attempts, first one here in the in-production thread, second one here (antimort & Black Knight are guests, no members here) and one on indiegogo.
I don't think the database should be abused as an advertisement spot for games that might one day happen (the only thing that entry ever provided as download was a theme song). I'd say chuck it out!

Matt and James Amazing Game For Everyone - ~~never was~~ - read comment on entry page! "Coming soon" advertisement from 2009. (by 'Coolmatt' - no member on the forums/ no in-production thread & no other references on the forums (aside from this thread))
EDIT: OK, researched some more for this one. There seems to have been a demo, according to the author's blog, but you needed to mail him on order to get it. Will try to contact the guy.

AGA · Thu 23/05/2013 11:32:27

Totally agreed on the MM3 thing. If there's no files to show for a project, it shouldn't be in the games db yet, it should be in an AGS Games in Production thread. I've disabled that entry.

arj0n · Thu 23/05/2013 11:59:56

Yes, that 'Crazy Mansion/ Maniac Mansion 3' project (by Eins Schweiss Productions if I remember right) has been cancelled a loooong time ago already.

Tramponline · Fri 24/05/2013 11:14:56

Quick info:
"Clash of Forces - Episode 2" was made available again for download by it's author. The download links to his website - if someone wants to archive it for future 'safekeeping'.

"D.Jones: Deceased" by Cameron Urquhart can be disabled. Got a message from him saying that he's fine with it.

Tramponline · Sat 25/05/2013 11:30:42

The Internet really is an eerie place sometimes... (sorry for double posting)

Managed to wrestle three 'lost' AGS games from the virtual netherworld over at Internet Archive!

For two of those, I'm not sure whether that is a good thing at all though - but that's not for me to decide:

"All Hallows' Eve" ...that one seems actually fun.

"Hell's Satans" ...mmhh...

"Drugs and Alians"

INFO for the AGS Panel, review comments for "Hell's Satans" & "drugs and alians" needs to be revised (broken link/wrong game files)