Continuious 3D Walking

Evil · Tue 04/05/2004 01:39:42

Ok, I was pondering around the idea of continious walking and I thought up this little idea.

Imagine that these are all four sides of a building. Now we set scaling so that the character gets larger on the edges and smaller twards the middle. Making the walkable areas a band that has the same arc as the building would make it look like the character is walking all the way around.

Call me crazy, I dont know how to explain it further.

Anybody get where I am going? Maybe this is just stupid

LGM · Tue 04/05/2004 01:44:41

Maybe you should try it..

Evil · Tue 04/05/2004 02:00:12

I would but I havent opened AGS for a long while. I was hoping somebody cought onto my idea and could help me out. $:-\$

LGM · Tue 04/05/2004 02:23:55

It isn't THAT hard to do in AGS.. You don't even have to do any scripting..

I'd do it if I wasn't lazy.

Pessi · Tue 04/05/2004 08:01:30

So basically, this would make it look as if the character was walking around a square-shaped building and the camera would circle around the house? I think it would work. If you made some kind of foreground objects pass by every now and then, it might be even more convincing.

I'm not sure if it would look too rigid. That issue could probably be solved with some diagonal views for the character. Might be hard though. Anyway, I could see uses for this technique.

Proskrito · Tue 04/05/2004 10:52:05

QuoteIt isn't THAT hard to do in AGS.. You don't even have to do any scripting..

I think it would require some scripting, because scaling levels in walkable areas change vertically (i hope that made sense) so you might have to change the scaling level in script depending on the character's x coord.

Ali · Tue 04/05/2004 11:00:39

The Simpsons uses distorted backgrounds to simulate panning, and I think some of the discworld backdrops did a similar thing.

I think the arcs that describe the bottom of the walls on your diagram would have to be a little steeper though.

I'd be interested to see if this would work. I'd try it out, but I'm on a network'd computer sans AGS.

Haddas · Tue 04/05/2004 12:19:00

This sounds overly cool. Why do I never come up with these ideas

Anyways. cool.

LGM · Tue 04/05/2004 14:59:29

Don't say those kinds of things, Haddas.. You'll imply that Evil is a genius and his ego will enlarge!

Sam. · Tue 04/05/2004 18:13:10

i am sorry. i really want to understand this but i don't can someone do a demo? i don't even understand what oyu are trying to show. Maybe i'm just stupid

stuh505 · Tue 04/05/2004 18:21:19

Juding by the picture, I think Evil meant for walking around the inside of a 4 sided building...if this were for walking around the outside the lines would be going the opposite direction...in either case, it seems like this is just something that everyone already does...

Ashen · Tue 04/05/2004 18:28:47

Quoteit seems like this is just something that everyone already does...

I don't think I've seen anything exactly this anywhere before, but I guess it's basically just a looping room.

The biggest question I would have is, why? I'm having difficulty thinking of a reason to do this, other than for the sake of it.

Layabout · Tue 04/05/2004 19:19:14

There was a test demo thingy where this was done. I can't remember who made it, but i know it is possible. I was gunna use this effect for the RON town square, as in my eyes it is round. It would have been alot of fun to utilise.

Evil · Tue 04/05/2004 23:17:40

Yeah, Pessi explained my idea better. Anyone know where I can find this game that Layabout is talking about?

Davis · Wed 05/05/2004 01:32:29

They did that in the central room of the alien complex in The Dig, the room underground right after you got teleported to the other planet from the asteroid.

Here's what I'm wondering, does AGS have a loop background feature? I mean, once you've walked from one edge of the screen to the other, does AGS have a setting to allow it to repeat? If not, isn't this whole conversation kind of moot? And if so, then isn't that feature's inclusion in AGS make this conversation... old hat? I mean, just to say that, if the feature were written into the program, it must have been put there to anticipate just such an occasion... right?

Ashen · Wed 05/05/2004 01:38:49

That's what I said a few posts ago.
There isn't actually a 'Loop Room' function, as far as I know, but the scripting needed to do it is in Demo Quest. So, while I see what Evil means, and yes, it's kind of a nifty idea, I don't get the point of this thread.

Scummbuddy · Wed 05/05/2004 04:56:13

what are you talking about. you can loop rooms in ags, just by having it larger than the resolution youre working in

MrColossal · Wed 05/05/2004 05:12:17

what are you talking about scumm?

he's not talking about scrolling rooms he means an infinitely walkable room where you can constantly go right and eventually you'll loop around to the start again without leaving the room

Gilbert · Wed 05/05/2004 05:14:44

You can? It's loop not scrolling, unless I missed some updated features, looping of room is not possible unless using script-hacking.

EDIT: fast rice!

Scummbuddy · Wed 05/05/2004 06:06:33

its late in the morning where i am. im sorry. my bad. i didnt elaborate on looping, i just wrote that little sentence. :