George Lucas' guidelines for the making of "Fate of Atlantis"

[Monsieur OUXX]

I just read this "making of" FoA: http://newsradiofanfic.angelfire.com/Making_Fate.html

Here is an excerpt :

George has established a criterion for Indiana Jones adventures, and it's basically that he should only find things that actually existedâ€"or at least could have existed.

Isn't it amazingly ironic and funny with regard to the finale of Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls?

[Ponch]

Of course this is also the same guy who wanted to make "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Giant Ants" 

I wish I had a billion dollars so I could go crazy in style too.

[Baron]

I wish I had a billion dollars so I could go crazy in style too.

OMG Start the Kickstarter campaign, Ponch!  I can see the pitch now -you look earnestly, almost pleadingly into the camera with those big beautiful jersey cow eyes of yours and say, with a straight face: "I need the billion dollars so that I can go crazy in style, baby!"  And then you cut away to you going crazy in a tacky poor kinda way, like dancing about in nothing but your briefs and a tutu on your head, or sitting on your lawn chair in the middle of the street with a fishing rod down a manhole and a ferret down your pants, or walking around busy public spaces wearing a "The End is Nigh" sandwich board with the words "THIS time I'm right!" on the back.  And then back to the earnest close up, shaking your head at the shame of it.  "If I only had a billion.... I could do it in STYLE!"  Pledge now and get the worlds smallest handkerchief woven from fibres harvested from your own nasal hair pluckings, yada yada, yada incentives incentives and then sit back and watch the pledges roll in!  You'd get my $2, brother....

[Ponch]

Okay! I will! I'm taking off my pants, putting on my apocalyptic sandwich board, and firing up the webcam now!

[Frodo]

OMG Start the Kickstarter campaign, Ponch!  I can see the pitch now -you look earnestly, almost pleadingly into the camera with those big beautiful jersey cow eyes of yours and say, with a straight face: "I need the billion dollars so that I can go crazy in style, baby!"  And then you cut away to you going crazy in a tacky poor kinda way, like dancing about in nothing but your briefs and a tutu on your head, or sitting on your lawn chair in the middle of the street with a fishing rod down a manhole and a ferret down your pants, or walking around busy public spaces wearing a "The End is Nigh" sandwich board with the words "THIS time I'm right!" on the back.  And then back to the earnest close up, shaking your head at the shame of it.  "If I only had a billion.... I could do it in STYLE!"  Pledge now and get the worlds smallest handkerchief woven from fibres harvested from your own nasal hair pluckings, yada yada, yada incentives incentives and then sit back and watch the pledges roll in!  You'd get my $2, brother....

I pledge £3   

[MiteWiseacreLives!]

In Canada we have the 'Foundation For The Tragically Hip'....
Baron should now what I'm talking about, eh? Brother?

[Baron]

In Canada we have the 'Foundation For The Tragically Hip'....
Baron should now what I'm talking about, eh? Brother?

I do now....eh? 

Before Ponch goes crazy in style, you should volunteer to have your brain sucked of Canadianisms that he could use in his upcoming Bake Sale game.  Wait, what Bake Sale?  Did someone announce another Bake Sale?  No?  Then why is Ponch working on this game?  What's going on??  And what was this thread about originally, anyway?

CANADA 4 EVAH!!!!!

[Ponch]

Shhh, Baron! Stop giving away secrets! And stop drawing attention away from my fundraiser! I've already raised $2 Canadian and £3 Scottish. Add those together and that's like 4.25 non-metric dollars! I'm on a roll!

[MiteWiseacreLives!]

that's like 4.25 non-metric dollars!

Or a large double-double and a toasted bagel with cream cheese.

And what was this thread about originally, anyway?

Give Ponch money so he can stop nay-sayers from defaming Goerge Lucas' Crystal Skull fantasies!
(if I liked that movie does that make me an uncool ags'er, who has to sit at the lame unpopular ags'er lunch table?)

[Baron]

George has established a criterion for Indiana Jones adventures, and it's basically that he should only find things that actually existedâ€"or at least could have existed.

Isn't it amazingly ironic and funny with regard to the finale of Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls?

I find the conjecture that aliens meddled somehow with ancient civilizations at least as plausible as the Hebrew nation having a box of god dust that turns their enemies into melting play-dough. 

And I will add my voice to that of MiteWiseacreLives (Gasp!  A Canadian conspiracy!): I thought Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was a pretty typical Indy movie.  It had the same basic formula, cheesy (implausible) action sequences, and dialogue-style as the rest.     

[Anian]

You know I'll give ya the plausibility of all Indy movie main plots being equally low, BUT the main premise is nothing compared to individual events that pile up stupidity, like the monkeys scene and that whole "we need to cut our way through the jungle" and then 5 minutes later having a race between two trucks through that same jungle.
I even thought the fridge/bomb section was ok. And the most important bad thing - Shia Labeouf, annoying actor and annoying and badly written character. Instead of making him smart but rash or maybe more like Jones Sr. character, nope, they made him into a rash annoying emo brat (which is what Shia usually plays anyway). 

[Tabata]

Shhh, Baron! Stop giving away secrets! And stop drawing attention away from my fundraiser! I've already raised $2 Canadian and £3 Scottish. ...

That needs to be sponsored internationally!!
Count me in! I'll donate 5 EUR (plus some umlauts as a tip) 

[Ghost]

This is SO backed. 2.99 Euros, and I'll throw in the deluxe recipe for that dish with the Maultaschen.

[Baron]

You know I'll give ya the plausibility of all Indy movie main plots being equally low, BUT the main premise is nothing compared to individual events that pile up stupidity, like the monkeys scene and that whole "we need to cut our way through the jungle" and then 5 minutes later having a race between two trucks through that same jungle.
I even thought the fridge/bomb section was ok. And the most important bad thing - Shia Labeouf, annoying actor and annoying and badly written character. Instead of making him smart but rash or maybe more like Jones Sr. character, nope, they made him into a rash annoying emo brat (which is what Shia usually plays anyway). 

Oh, c'mon!  Like Crystal Skull was the only Indie movie to have silly implausible environments.  Roller coaster mine carts, anyone?  Who would ever build a mine like that?!?  Functional booby traps in a six hundred year old temple built by a civilization with little or no conception of metallurgy?  What exactly is springing those arrows out of the wall?!?  A decapitating machine down a narrow passageway -where's the puddle of blood that pretty much gives the warning "don't step here"?!?  I think you have to suspend your disbelief and just have fun to enjoy these movies.
    And as for annoying supporting characters, Shia Labeouf was no worse than Kate Capshaw's character in Temple of Doom -now there was an annoying character.  But it shows how great a guy Indy is to put up with these hangers-on, so I guess I'm ok with it.

Back off topic: DO IT PONCH!  DOOOOO IT!!!!1!!!!!

[Ponch]

I'm trying! But I'm too busy counting my money to put on the tutu and slather myself in vegetable oil.

The tally so far:

   $ 2.00 Canadian
   Â£ 3.00 Scottish
+ â,¬ 7.99 Euro (and assorted umlauts)
-----------
  875,000 Pesos!

As soon as I can work out the conversion to Fahrenheit, I'll be rolling in the dough!   Also, Indiana Jones fell from a plan onto a mountain with a grown woman and a chinese kid in tow, and the raft saved them all. It did not diminish my enjoyment of Temple Of Doom. Still kind of iffy on Crystal Skull. Some of it really worked for me (the shot of Indy in front of the mushroom cloud was amazing), but stuff like the vine express and the lumberjack mobiles just seemed a bit too silly for me.

[Trapezoid]

You know I'll give ya the plausibility of all Indy movie main plots being equally low, BUT the main premise is nothing compared to individual events that pile up stupidity, like the monkeys scene and that whole "we need to cut our way through the jungle" and then 5 minutes later having a race between two trucks through that same jungle.
I even thought the fridge/bomb section was ok. And the most important bad thing - Shia Labeouf, annoying actor and annoying and badly written character. Instead of making him smart but rash or maybe more like Jones Sr. character, nope, they made him into a rash annoying emo brat (which is what Shia usually plays anyway). 

Oh, c'mon!  Like Crystal Skull was the only Indie movie to have silly implausible environments.  Roller coaster mine carts, anyone?  Who would ever build a mine like that?!?  Functional booby traps in a six hundred year old temple built by a civilization with little or no conception of metallurgy?  What exactly is springing those arrows out of the wall?!?  A decapitating machine down a narrow passageway -where's the puddle of blood that pretty much gives the warning "don't step here"?!?  I think you have to suspend your disbelief and just have fun to enjoy these movies.
    And as for annoying supporting characters, Shia Labeouf was no worse than Kate Capshaw's character in Temple of Doom -now there was an annoying character.  But it shows how great a guy Indy is to put up with these hangers-on, so I guess I'm ok with it.

Back off topic: DO IT PONCH!  DOOOOO IT!!!!1!!!!!

I like Crystal Skull ok, but part of what makes that sequence bad is it just looks like a damn video game. Yeah, the Indiana Jones movies have always had pretty bad blue-screening, but KamiŠ„ski and 2008-Spielberg just could NOT get that serial look down (or even 50's sci-fi, like they claimed they were going for.) Lots of weird pacing too.

[MiteWiseacreLives!]

 I can offer the partially petrified remains of an Apr. 17 2012 tuna sandwich and one previously enjoyed off-pink tutu, cancel your ebay offers please, if it helps to send this thread back into chaos.
Ponch, does this mean there will be more animations created for my favouritest lady-officer ever?? perhaps she will recover from that partial paralysis that left oh so much to my imagination

[Eric]

Isn't it amazingly ironic and funny with regard to the finale of Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls?

I don't want to defend Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, a movie that disappointed me so much that I shoved over a cardboard stand-up of Harrison Ford on my way out of the movie theater, but...

I think this rule is in keeping with previous uses. The Ark of the Covenant, lingam stones, the Holy Grail are all real-or-rumored-to-be artifacts that have higher supernatural functions in the world of Indy. Crystal Skulls were also artifacts, though they're younger than originally believed. Erich Von Daniken-style aliens are not much harder for me to believe than the Holy Spirit slaying Nazis, hearts being pulled still beating from chests, or Templar knights who are centuries old. It's less the idea in KotCS than it is the execution, or lack thereof. What a horrible movie. UGH!

[Ryan Timothy B]

I was mostly just pissy to see the alien remains come to life, then afterwards they all continuously circle around in the room until they merge together. It was the worst scene. I would've been happier to just see them place the skull on the bones, then they somehow piece together the information they learned about the aliens, the place starts to crumble and they escape. The end.

I also wasn't a huge fan of the "stare into the skull and you go mad" shit. It was really odd - but it was livable compared to the ending. The giant ants were fine, same with the tree chopping mobiles, I just didn't like the long distance vine swinging.

Let's hope Disney one-ups Crystal Skull.

[selmiak]

I was mostly pissed because the 4th Indy movie was totally not Fate of Atlantis

there was a stargate episode with a crystal skull that teleports you away to the land of some giants when you stare into it, I actually like that episode, well, I like most stargate episodes. Of course it was some alien technology there too. So where do the authors get these alien crystal skull stuff from? Were some real alien crystal skulls found? on earth?