Remaking Discworld Noir, because its shit basically.

[Ali]

I disagree with most of your criticisms, but you're absolutely right about Vimes. They game made him posh and snippy, and he's neither of those things.

I don't think that's just to do with voice acting, the character of Vimes was distorted (I suspect) in order to distinguish him from Lewton. Vimes is my favourite character and I do remember being irritated by that, but I don't think it damages the game overall.

[Dave Gilbert]

When it comes to voice acting a pre-defined character, it's impossible to please everybody.  Some people have already commented that the voice acting for "Shivah" won't match what they had in their heads, and the voiced version isn't even out yet!

[Rincewind]

I can only agree totally with what both AGA and Dave said - Discworld Noir is still among one of my favourite adventure games ever. It has flaws, sure, such as the animation loops already mentioned, but on the whole I enjoy it immensly, because of the athmosphere, the dialogue, the music, the storyline, the interface, etc, etc... I don't know, it just appeals to me on so many levels, not only because I'm a huge Pratchett/Discworld-fan.

And I too like the voice-acting ,even though I can understand why you don't - A game where there is basically just four people doing all voices obviously makes for a "Hey, isn't that the same voice?"-situation which might take away from the "realism" and immersion in the game. Personally, I don't have a problem with that, and like the voice-acting throughout all three Discworld-games.

So if you ask me, there's no need for a remake at all, even though a new Discworld game would be very welcome, of course...

[Hammerite]

Nigel Planer does his Neil voice too. That was great.

[Ali]

When it comes to voice acting a pre-defined character, it's impossible to please everybody.Ã, 

I should clarify that it wasn't just the voice acting for Vimes that bothered me, they changed his character altogether in order for him to be the villain of the piece. In fact he behaved more like Captain Quirk. That's a small point though, it didn't hamper my enjoyment of the game.

[ildu]

I totally agree with AGA and disagree with with you, Kandyman. Having been an avid reader of Pratchett and the owner of all the games, I utterly loved Discworld Noir. Sure, some of the animations are a bit long-winded and the game might have some bugs, but otherwise, it's quite perfect. I even love the graphics and voice acting for being really quirky and not what you might expect. I also gotta mension that the game is a perfect length. It's very long, but you can't get bored and it's thusfar sustained multiple replays.

I also thought of making a remake or even a small sequel, but mostly because of the shortcomings of the original engine. for example, the model of Lewton looks quite crappy in-game. The other characters are images, so they don't really pose  the same problem. As far as design goes, I would rather like to replicate the old style rather than attempt the impossible of any better design .

[Dave Gilbert]

I should clarify that it wasn't just the voice acting for Vimes that bothered me, they changed his character altogether in order for him to be the villain of the piece. In fact he behaved more like Captain Quirk. That's a small point though, it didn't hamper my enjoyment of the game.

True, to a point.  I didn't mind how Vimes was voiced, because the game was from Lewton's point of view.  Lewton hates Vimes, with what he feels are good reasons. It felt kind of "right" that Vimes was portrayed negatively.  It goes against what we know from the books, but the game isn't from the usual point of view...

[Krysis]

I liked the game... There were a few things I hated though. For instance, the notebook sound and the way you have to check a whole bunch of pages. Vimes was absolutely awfull. Leonardo's accent was way over the top and it was really annoying.

As for the character design, most characters looked really ugly.

Spoiler

I realise the dwarf had to look like Peter Lore but they made him hideous. And Gaspod? UGLE!

[close]

If someone like Paul Kidby made the character design this game would have been 200% better. I like the game, but it doesn't feel really discworldish. The feel of the game is different from the books, so they should have made the characters closer to the originals.

I wouldn't mind a remake, but it has to be made really good. Hard task.

[The Inquisitive Stranger]

Regarding Vimes, here are some interesting snippets from an interview with DWN writer/designer Chris Bateman:

[Terry Pratchett's] biggest change in the latter stages was making us rerecord Vimes' voice—he wasn't happy with the original recording sessions for that character.

...during script writing it became apparent that Lewton was the person Vimes would have been if just one decision had been made differently... a sort of mirror-universe Vimes. That was the origin of the conflict between the two characters within the story.

[Huw Dawson]

I have avidly loved Discworld Noir for many years. To critisize it is to critisize the best adventure game which wasn't made by LucasArts or Sierra.

Also, seeing as it's Leuton telling the story, it's perfectly plausible that he could have changed a few things to make Vimes look bad. Same goes with the voice. 

- Huw

PS: A fan-sequel of Noir would be very very good...

[ManicMatt]

Lewton. Weeks after playing that game I'd walk around the house talking EXACTLY LIKE HIM. I loved that voice.

I've (tried to) read feet of clay, and I didn't like it at all. So I never got into Pratchett. Discworld 2 had some infuriatingly illogical puzzles, probably made worse by my lack of discworld knowledge. So I never finished that one, and they talked for too long.

However, Discworld Noir, I adored. I even happily put up with the overly long conversations this time. the graphics (on the PSone) were awful, and at time I recall I could see "blocks" or "squares" around people where they'd been put into the game. Do you know what I mean? Well it looked glitchy anyway.

I lent the game to my brother and his boyfriend lost it. Dang. Maybe one day I will buy it on the PC. I also liked the smell thing. The only thing I'd like to see improved is the graphics really.

[Ghost]

I never said it wasn't faithful to the books... and i didn't said that it has a bad plot. My gripes are interface, graphics, and voice acting.

sorry, my bad Ã,  So you're still aiming at making a remake with better graphics and voice acting, which still seems quite a task to me.

[MarkPhantom]

If someone like Paul Kidby made the character design this game would have been 200% better. I like the game, but it doesn't feel really discworldish.

I think if he had, we'd get more detail - but since the game was resolutely 3D, it's uncertain how well his art style would have translated.

[Hammerite]

dont remake it is my opinion.
you'll just be insulted like yodaman was

[SSH]

KANDYMAN's track record is somewhat more impressive than yoda, but still I'm with those who say "Don't do a remake, make your OWN game". It would be a waste of his talents, I think.

[MarkPhantom]

I'm pretty much with most of the people here - do your own Discworld game, don't just remake Discworld Noir.

[The Inquisitive Stranger]

Just do your own game period.

[LimpingFish]

I quite liked Discworld Noir, even with my common hatred of all things Pratchett.

I don't see a need for it to be remade, although I really don't see a need for ANY game to be remade.

But that's just me...