Can I use this say at in a Dialog?

[Icey]

Ok that's a lot. And I figured it out this morning thanks to Monkey.

First of all I did post a line out of my dialog. The whole problem was every thing in the dialog. It all said Dave.Sayat(x, x, x,":p");

The buffer thing that started at 9 was because I forgot

Code: ags

");

at the end of each line after 8.

[Icey]

What are we supposed to do?

Thats the 1.000.000 $ question. Ban? Ignore? Being degraded as online help? Blow up every single icey thread? I'm afraid there isn't an easy answer.
When he first joined, I thought his membership would only last a few weeks. Especially when he joined the wintermute forums. But I guess this is last board on the interwebs, where he isn't been ignored and actually helped.

Still this isn't the worst icey thread yet
[/quote]

I didn't get band on that other forums. I got a answer on how to make a RPG but I wasn't feeling the engine &I left because nothing can touch AGS & all of it's extras. It's so user friendly & I have learned a lot from using it & getting help from Khris, Monkey, & others.  I don't get band from other forums and I really don't have any problems with any one on there.

[monkey0506]

Ok that's a lot. And I figured it out this morning thanks to Monkey.

Hooray.

First of all I did post a line out of my dialog. The whole problem was every thing in the dialog. It all said Dave.Sayat(x, x, x,":p");

What Khris meant is that you copied the error messages (and I'm guessing you did this by hand from the capitalization errors), but you didn't actually copy the lines of code. If we saw something like:

Code: ags

// dialog script
@S
DAVE: Hello there.
MERCHANT: Hello.
Dave.SayAt(x, x, x, ":p");
return

We would have been able to look at that and tell you that the normal scripting command, SayAt needed to have its line indented entirely. We figured it out of course, but you didn't actually provide a code snippet directly, which is what Khris was getting at. Sometimes we don't just need to know what command you're using, but how you're using it.

The buffer thing that started at 9 was because I forgot

Code: ags

");

at the end of each line after 8.

This..is a really big mistake. On some 18+ lines of script you forgot not only a closing quote, not only a closing parenthesis, and not only the semicolon at the end of the command, but all three? Glad we got that sorted out, but you really have to pay attention to things like that.

In any case, good thing it's solved now. Oh, and just in case you haven't figured it out with the other help provided here, you did get the PlayVideo command to work properly, right? I've never actually used PlayVideo inside of a dialog, but I imagine that so long as you actually put the correct command in properly indented normal script that it would be fine to include this command in a dialog script. Let us know (in this thread since it was part of the same issue) if it's not working for you.

[Icey]

I am going to check and see if it works soon.

P.S if you look at my first post I have line that would appear to be a line out of my script. But I didn't use the

Code: ags

 tag.

[Khris]

Studio3: USE THE PREVIEW BUTTON. YOU NEVER PREVIEW YOUR POSTS BEFORE POSTING THEM, LET ALONE RE-READ THEM TO CHECK FOR ERRORS. WHY THE HELL NOT? THIS IS COMMON COURTESY.

What Khris meant is that you copied the error messages (and I'm guessing you did this by hand from the capitalization errors)

I was pretty surprised but the wrong capitalization is already in AGS's error list.

The funny thing in retrospect is the very first post:

...

Dave.SayAt(8, 167, 320,"Dave: Hey what are these time rings again?

Because the missing "); is already apparent. I guess he pasted the SayAt part and forgot to end the command properly midway though the dialog.

We didn't catch that though BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T USE THE CODE TAG. WHY THE HELL NOT? If you had, maybe we could've solved this way quicker.

Then Calin told you exactly what the original problem was:

In a dialog script everything with a space or tab before it is executed like a normal script command. so just put a space before it in the dialog script.

Your very next post is this:

So if it is shown as blue then the talking text is shown as red then I did this right?

Although he spelled it out clearly, mentioning the freaking space TWICE, you still didn't put it at the start of the line.
WHY THE HELL NOT?

And don't start with lame excuses; no matter the content, an indented line appears black in a dialog script.
It seems like you're incapable of understanding basic English sentences.

And people wonder why we lash out at you.

Edit: Also, why do you append "[S]" to the subject in a reply? You have to edit the first post...

[Khris]

I'm putting this in a separate post:

Guess what a forum search for "SayAt dialog" in Beginner's Tech brings up as VERY FIRST RESULT:

This topic from barely a week ago:
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=43350.0

Title:
SOLVED: Dialogs: can we have a SayAt for text positioning?

I'm off to empty a bottle of Black Label now.

Edit: even a fucking google search yields the same thread as top result:
oh my oh my the stupidity

[Icey]

Look I did all that I mean hello I had this topic as solved but I never really tested it out by playing the game. I added the space to the wrong spot when calin told me what to do. I got it right with barefoot though. Even though I forget to explain some things you guys used to reposed to me like I was at your level. Like when I asked how to have multiple scores. During this game there has been a lot that I have learned. I now use variables, structs, and other things I could do before.

It's not like I state my problem just to get on your bad side. I just need a little more explaining sometimes even if I use pictures or videos.

And another reason why I don't get so hyped up when you and monkey talk to me in a unnecessary way is because I know I will have at least 1 problem in a game I make. And the ones to answer them right are usually you two so I though what would happen if all that help went away? Well it's not a nice though at all.

[ddq]

Yes, they are talking to you in an unnecessary way, their helpful words fall on deaf ears. Khris and monkey, ignorance is bliss. It's probably time to stop trying to help.

[Icey]

Hey hey hey!

I don't need you to bud it and say things like that.

All I am saying is that every one learns at different speeds. You may think I am not learning or I don't care what you say & I just need it to fish my game. You may not see it but others do. I have learned a lot & with a new game there is a problem & with every problem it soon forms into a topic & with each topic I learn more & more.

[Khris]

Why not learn some of these then for a change:
Grammar. Spelling. How to properly format your posts. Forum rules. How/when to use the manual. How/when to use the forum search.

I don't give two shits about whether you're using structs in your game as long as you abuse the forums with more or less every single thread you open.

[Icey]

Khris I never used the dialog editor because I never really got AND I never needed it for my games. I search how to use it and it was not as helpful as talking to someone & not yelling at a virtual book because I don't get it.

[Icey]

And monkey it's possible. I have yet to make the video however I get the error stating that the video could not be found( Which is a sign that it works).

[DoorKnobHandle]

Please don't think that (1) these forums start to flame newbies or (2) 'Studio3' is being treated unfairly in any way. The travesty is that everybody is actually trying extra nice to help him (Khris and monkey most of all) and he STILL makes it look like they are trying to flame him.

There's nothing more I can contribute to this thread or the situation as a whole, just wanted to say that I had to laugh so hard at

Look I did all that I mean hello I had this topic as solved but I never really tested it out by playing the game.

that I actually made that my signature.

[Khris]

this thread
How to use standard script commands in dialog scripts is explained right here:
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/manual/Conversations.htm

It is part of the tutorial section of the manual. What you wanted to know is explained there in detail, with code examples. I say again, it's in the tutorial section, not hidden in some obscure appendix. You are supposed to peruse that before opening a thread, in case you're still wondering.

searching for info
As you should know by now, searching the manual isn't really prone to give good results unless you're looking for a specific command and know how to spell it. That's why there's also the forum search. While it can still be difficult to find what you're looking for, in this case it wasn't AT ALL.
You conveniently chose not to even address my post regarding this though. (I bet you still won't after this post.)

"I'm slow"
Instead you're whining about how you are a slow learner and how we explain stuff to you like you were at our level. This is simply ridiculous.
The reality is that you tend to ask how to (a) do stuff that's explained in the manual or (b) fix some extremely trivial error of yours.
People have shown incredible patience with your (a) threads, time and again. In most cases, the appropriate answer would have been "RTFM".
Your (b) threads on the other hand are usually handled with great care and willingness to help. Despite having to ask several times for info that should have been in your opening post, people usually manage to get you to fix your shit. (At this time let's all recall the glorious battle order thread.)

what you still don't get
What I'm saying is that I don't really care that you shouldn't be let near a game IDE/scripting language, what bugs the hell out of me is your blatant disregard for any form and etiquette here.
You are a long way past any type of lenience towards newbies, yet you still

-disobey the most basic forum rules

-post unformatted text riddled with errors which makes reading them annoying, and if called upon it, get back with some "I was talking and typing at the same time" bullshit, as if that were an excuse

-are unable to realize what info is supposed to go in a thread asking for help and what isn't

It's not only tiresome to address your trivial, stupid questions all the time, it's already tiresome to merely decipher the mess you post in order to get to the actual problem.

After a few months I think it can safely be said that you simply don't give a fuck. And your reply to this post will thoroughly prove my point.

[Icey]

I am not going to respond to all of that because the parts after "I'm slow" is wrong and if I do then you will be right about what you said.

Look I am NOT Re-tard-ed! Stop treating me like I am. I didn't say it will take me a year to learn the meaning of things. I just need examples & such. How in the hell do you think I got the very basics of using AGS, Hum? I SEARCHED AGS tutorials on you tube and got about 30+ video with basic things I need to know. I would have never tried reading that manual due to my age and I didn't like to read before but I always knew the manual was there to remind me on how to do the basic things. When I talk & type it helps me however you thought I came up with a lie and you took what I said wrong.

Now tell me I don't give a

fuck

now.

[Khris]

What did I tell you? Again you ramble about AGS & the manual instead of addressing my etiquette part. Point proven.

And you're telling us due to your age you never tried to read the manual? Are you serious? You never even TRIED reading it? I'm speechless. What are you even doing using AGS? How did you... I don't even...

I am not going to respond to all of that because the parts after "I'm slow" is wrong and if I do then you will be right about what you said.

Until you give me an actual counter-argument besides "it is wrong" I'll consider myself being right about what I said no matter whether you respond or not.

Your form already has improved. Keep that, start using the goddamn manual and stop posting half-assed tech demos in Completed Games and you're halfway there.

If you aren't a retard, stop acting like one. Don't feel encouraged if misguided people defend you; stop creating five "games" at once. And for the love of all that's good and holy, stop your beta code bullshit, your DLC bullshit, your facebook bullshit, your 3D bullshit and all the other bullshit. You are not the CEO of the independent game company Studio3, you are one guy in front of a PC who can't use a manual. Stop acting like a retard and people won't make you feel like a retard.

All the energy and time you have wasted creating your non-games could have easily produced a solid game three times over. And don't use MAGS in a vain attempt to justify releasing another non-game.
It might be difficult to see behind all the attacks and sarcasm I'm hurling at you but there's actual valuable advice in this post, again. Take it.

[monkey0506]

Look, I'm sorry. If this post negates everything I've ever said to try and help you icey, if this post makes me into a horrible, unfair, malicious bully, then I'm sorry. Really I am. But..I can't stop myself. I simply can't.

...I had this topic as solved but I never really tested it out by playing the game...

Even though I forget to explain some things you guys used to reposed to me like I was at your level.

We used to..what? Reposed?

re-pose
   [ree-pohz]
â€"verb (used with object), verb (used without object), -posed, -pos·ing.

to pose again.

I wasn't aware we ever made poses at you as if you were on our level, nevermind posing again at you.

I'm sure, absolutely certain that you meant "respond", but..I'm just..completely at a loss..I am utterly flabbergasted in trying to grasp at the unfathomable idea that you would confuse the two words. They don't look alike. They don't sound alike. The spelling is not even remotely similar. I don't know how this happened. I just..I don't..I don't even have words.

But..it did make me laugh.

And another reason why I don't get so hyped up when you and monkey talk to me in a unnecessary way is because I know I will have at least 1 problem in a game I make.

You're right. I'm sorry for pointing out that Calin and barefoot both told you what the problem was, and both told you how to fix the problem, and you were still having problems accomplishing one of the simplest tasks possible: to indent a line of code. That was completely unnecessary of me to post that. I'm sorry for being so abrasively malicious and offensive toward you.

I don't need you to bud it and say things like that.

"bud it"? Really? "bud it"??

I think, though I could be wrong here, that you mean "butt in". You know, as in, someone is sticking their butt (and by extension their bodies, i.e. themselves) in to a situation where they are not wanted or welcome. It's a figure of speech, but it has a logical premise behind it. What does "bud it" even mean?

You may think I am not learning or I don't care what you say & I just need it to fish my game.

You need it to do what with your game? REALLY? REALLY??

I'm sorry. I really, really am sorry. But I can't stop laughing at this.

Hold on guys, I just have to fish typing this post..then maybe I can look away and then I can fish laughing.

I have learned a lot & with a new game there is a problem & with every problem it soon forms into a topic & with each topic I learn more & more.

It's honestly amazing to witness the progression of how this takes place, as spelled out in your own words. It really is.

I search how to use it and it was not as helpful as talking to someone & not yelling at a virtual book because I don't get it.

Yes, I typically find that not yelling at virtual books is the most helpful thing that I can do too.

And monkey it's possible. I have yet to make the video however I get the error stating that the video could not be found( Which is a sign that it works).

Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah. Hold on a second.

You seriously put the PlayVideo command into your dialog..and expected it to work..without having created the video file yet??

I..haha..I..just..I don't even. I just..don't..even.

Let me know if it works out properly for you after you actually create the video file and test the game. Just for the record, there's no way for you to know if something actually solved your problem until you test your results.

The travesty is that everybody is actually trying extra nice to help him (Khris and monkey most of all) and he STILL makes it look like they are trying to flame him.

Hahaha, yup! Thanks for noticing me! 8)

Look I am NOT Re-tard-ed!

This sounds to me about as serious as when Chris Crocker made a video saying that he is not a joke. It actually..was rather hysterical. As is this.

I didn't say it will take me a year to learn the meaning of things.

No, you said it would take you more than three. I can find the quote if I have to. You said that it's not fair for us to be getting so impatient with you about these things because you have only been here three years and that's not long enough to learn how to perform the basics of making a game in AGS, and basic debugging by yourself. You said that. Not one of us. You did. So you're right. It takes much, much more than three years, not just one.

I would have never tried reading that manual due to my age and I didn't like to read before but I always knew the manual was there to remind me on how to do the basic things.

Hahaha!! Really? So you're now just going to say that the reason you haven't been using the manual is that you're too young to read it? Or that if you tried you would just lose interest? Yet somehow if someone posts here and and tells you how to do it, that's completely different than reading it in the manual? REALLY?

I'm not going to say I'm sorry again because I've already said it enough and it's starting to sound less and less believable (albeit completely true). I'm not trying to make fun of you. I'm just completely at a loss how you think that the things you're saying actually make or support your case..in any way. I don't get it. It's so unfathomable to me, that it actually leaps and bounds well beyond the realm of feasible logic, and into the realm of total hysteria. It's..just utterly ridiculous to me.

When I talk & type it helps me however you thought I came up with a lie and you took what I said wrong.

So..when you say talking and typing at the same time helps you..did you actually..SAY things like "repose" and "fish [your] game"?

icey..I'm not trying to attack you. I just don't understand how you can possibly expect us to take you seriously. The things you say..are beyond hilarious.

[Icey]

I sometimes wonder. It's like every thing I type gets turned into something else or it gets switched around to the point were when I read it I am like what the hell. Khris when I said because of my age I meant before when I first joined AGS. I use that god forsaken thing all the time now. I can't ask the damn book how to make a character jump can I!! I don't think so but I can post here and get an answer on how to do it. The book is not a person is it! No it's not. Most people find it easier to talk to a person rather a book even though they looked in that thing more then once. Studio3,I  am not in this alone. I have people who work with me on different things out side of AGS.

I hate this damn laptop sometimes. That mouse pad is so sensitive that I end up taping it while I type thus messing my whole post up.
That's not an excuse because it happens when I am typing somewhere else.

[Ryan Timothy B]

Well, if you have a mouse you 'should' be able to disable the touchpad. Some laptops, like mine, have a button to disable it. Or you can do it through the Pointing Device settings.


Anyway. I think this thread has reached its expiry. I do feel Studio3 is quite annoying with his trivial questions and farfetched ideas, but he definitely is improving -- ever so slowly. If you're tired of helping him, just do what I do, and ignore his help threads. We don't need another entire thread about how he should improve his grammar or reread his posts. Etc. Etc.

I do understand the stress you guys are going through with trying to help him, yet he constantly shows that he doesn't understand. How he tries to fix an error in the code you guys give him. But it was only an error because he messed it up. Then tells you "It didn't work at first, so I've commented out half the lines and it seems to work now". Resulting in something completely different than what he wanted and something prone to errors.


But seriously. Just ignore him if you're tired of him. Please. I'm tired of these threads and it does kinda feel like you're picking on the slow kid because he can't grasp something we can all easily understand (I'm just as guilty. I've done this to him too).

[Calin Leafshade]

omg lol