Can I use this say at in a Dialog?

Started by Icey, Sun 01/05/2011 16:07:47

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Icey

I am just posting to say that there was 3 problems all together.

1. One was that I had to indent.

2. Add the format for the type of video.

3. And add the ");
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This wouldn't of had happen if I tested the game before I went to school, sigh. :-\


barefoot

#41
Hi Studio3 and guys

Let's not get into a JFK turkey shoot..

Well, according to your profile Studio3 you are just 16... its an age where you don't always realise what you say and do... and then there's me.. an old git (55) and its the same again.. maybe worse...  (I have 3 sons who were all 16 at some time).

some of us become brain dead over the years and that makes it even harder, especially if information gets shredded as it enters the mind..if there's any left..

Don't forget that I grew up when rationing hadn't ended and loo's were always 20 yards down the garden and bath night was the old tin bath in front of a coal fire!

Yes, advanced technology is such a whiz... (I threw my abacus away years ago)..

If Studio3 is really 16 then he should be treated like any other 16 year old.. kid gloves..

I hold very high regards for Khris, Monkey, Calin and some others..  If I f*** up then I have to take the blows.. the price for fame is high indeed..

Enough said I thinks...

:=

barefoot


I May Not Be Perfect but I Have A Big Heart ..

Khris

Ryan: Your input is appreciated but let's not close this thread while we're in the middle of it, right? It's one thread, just ignore it or read it on coke ;)

Quote from: Studio3 on Wed 04/05/2011 02:54:40
I sometimes wonder. It's like every thing I type gets turned into something else or it gets switched around to the point were when I read it I am like what the hell. Khris when I said because of my age I meant before when I first joined AGS.
When you joined here you weren't 4, right? You were more like 14. How is that an excuse not to read the manual? If you decide to program your own Final Fantasy games using a scripting engine, how did you at the same time decide "but I won't use the manual coz then I have to, like, read 'n' stuff"?

QuoteI use that god forsaken thing all the time now. I can't ask the damn book how to make a character jump can I!! I don't think so but I can post here and get an answer on how to do it. The book is not a person is it! No it's not. Most people find it easier to talk to a person rather a book even though they looked in that thing more then once.
No, you can't look up jumping. The problem is you can look up other things but you still ask them in the forum first.

Also, the problem is you ask "How can I make my character jump?". You don't give any specifics. You don't tell us when you want him to jump or how you want him to jump. Now you were thinking of FF style jumping as in approach a cliff edge and jump down or something like that. We don't know that, yet we have to pull everything out of your nose first.
When you try to give context like in your "invisible GUI" thread, you post meaningless screenshots. The actual code containing the error was on the second page of the thread!

QuoteI hate this damn laptop sometimes. That mouse pad is so sensitive that I end up taping it while I type thus messing my whole post up.
That's not an excuse because it happens when I am typing somewhere else.
Of course it does, and no, it's not an excuse, it's a lame excuse. Use a mouse like normal people and deactivate it. Don't touch the pad while typing.
And first of all, DON'T TELL US YOU GET BAD SPELLING, GRAMMAR AND POST FORM BECAUSE YOU ACCIDENTALLY TOUCH YOUR MOUSE PAD. I hate being lied to, but I even more hate being lied to really obviously.

See, the thing about you is that I can not remember a single time when you have actually said sorry for anything you've been doing wrong here. All you do is provide lame excuses or outright ignore our complaints.
You are still pretty young and I don't really care anyway so whatever.

You see, at the beginning of this thread you misunderstood Calin. You obviously thought that what he meant was put a blank line before the SayAt line, not a blank space at the start of the same line.
If you had only told us this when you realized your mistake you could have avoided a lot of verbal abuse.
We are not your parents who are about to ground you; if you're honest you will be way better off.

Icey

I get the point, I have had a really bad day okay. Let's just end this here and now.  :-\

monkey0506

icey, I want to explain something to you, though I really have my doubts whether or not I might just as well be speaking to a rock outside my front door. I'm not trying to insult you in that, what I'm saying is that there have been a lot of times when I have personally and directly addressed you with specific questions and you've either overlooked or ignored them entirely. So, please understand that the point of me saying what I just did is not to say you are not intelligent enough to understand what I have to say, simply that I am questioning whether or not you will read and take to heart what I'm going to say; all of which is based on my own past experience in dealing with you.

The reason that you feel so many people are attacking you, or being mean to you, or bullying you, or what have you, is not that you are incapable of implementing help offered to you. You have proven that you are capable of utilizing the help given you in order to deal with individual and specific problems. The reason you feel the way you do is because you have, in the three years you have been here, failed to develop behaviours that are consistent with the goals that you have in mind.

Every programming language in existence has one thing in common, without which you cannot hope to be able to succeed in utilizing the language: logic. Logic isn't just taking an answer someone gives you and putting it in place to solve one problem. Logic is about understanding why the answer that someone gave you is the answer that they gave you; why the answer that they gave you corrects the problem that you described; and most importantly, how to take that information, and apply it to other situations. Logic is a way of thinking about your problems and how to solve them.

The problem is, you have proven, by your actions, to not be capable of thinking logically. That's not to say that there is anything wrong with you, it's not meant to be derogatory; it is simply a skill that you have not yet developed. It is possible to develop a more logical way of thinking, but changing the way you think about problems is a long an arduous task. It will not be easy for you to develop this way of thinking. It will not happen overnight.

Although you have a difficult road ahead of you, that does not give you the right to use that as an excuse. You are responsible for your actions. It doesn't matter if you're having difficulty learning how to do this or that, you are still responsible for the manner in which you approach getting the answers you need. You need to be aware of that.

If you want to move forward, if you want to progress, if you want to be able to succeed in learning how to handle these type of problems on your own, you cannot continue using these deficiencies that you have as a crutch. You can either take the first step and start admitting to the problems you have in understanding and logically reapplying the solutions that have been previously provided to you, and then work toward developing those skills you need; or you can continue on using your deficiencies as a crutch, blaming everyone else for your problems, and you will never move forward beyond this point which you are at right now. Should you choose the latter, you must also be willing to accept that you will continue to receive the criticism and so-called "unnecessary" type of responses to your thread that you have identified as making you feel bullied.

The ball is in your court icey. The responsibility from this point is yours, whether you choose to accept it or not.

Icey


Khris

Here's a test (actually two) for logic capabilities in general:
http://www.think-logically.co.uk/lt.htm

Icey

#47
test 1 I got a 47% = 7

test 2 I got a 77% = 11

Khris


Bonus question.
a) According to your previous post you scored 77% in test 2.
b) Test 2 is a good deal more difficult than test 1 where you got 47%.
c) Answering 11 correct equals 73% which is also what the alert on the page says.

Conclusion
Therefore one should have serious doubts about the validity of the test 2 result you posted.

O  Valid      O  Invalid

Icey

#49
O  Valid

I knew it was 70 something but I closed the alert to fast and thought it said 77%.

monkey0506

#50
Assertions:

a) Math is hard.*
b) 11 / 15 is Math.

Conclusion:

11 / 15 is impossible to calculate properly if you didn't remember the percentage given in the pop-up.

O  Valid          O  Invalid

*Logical assertions do not necessarily have to be factual or correct. Opinions and/or misinformation can still be logically asserted.

Edit: Also, although you provided the correct answer to Khris' bonus question..do you really understand what you just admitted to? :=

Hudders

Just to play devil's advocate: answering "invalid" to every question on test 2 gets you 73%  ;)

Snarky

Quote from: Khris on Thu 05/05/2011 02:01:01

Bonus question.
a) According to your previous post you scored 77% in test 2.
b) Test 2 is a good deal more difficult than test 1 where you got 47%.
c) Answering 11 correct equals 73% which is also what the alert on the page says.

Conclusion
Therefore one should have serious doubts about the validity of the test 2 result you posted.

O  Valid      O  Invalid

O  Invalid

The conclusion is plausible but does not follow deductively. (Apart from the mathematical impossibility, which I'll ignore.)

Incidentally, a person who doesn't really understand logical deduction could take test 1, score badly, read the results and explanations, and be much better prepared for test 2. That's also plausible.

Icey

Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Thu 05/05/2011 06:51:33
Assertions:

a) Math is hard.*
b) 11 / 15 is Math.

Conclusion:

11 / 15 is impossible to calculate properly if you didn't remember the percentage given in the pop-up.

O  Valid          O  Invalid

*Logical assertions do not necessarily have to be factual or correct. Opinions and/or misinformation can still be logically asserted.

Edit: Also, although you provided the correct answer to Khris' bonus question..do you really understand what you just admitted to? :=

O  Invalid

And I don't really know what I answered. Did he call me "dumb"?

Icey

Quote from: Snarky on Thu 05/05/2011 11:03:40
Quote from: Khris on Thu 05/05/2011 02:01:01

Bonus question.
a) According to your previous post you scored 77% in test 2.
b) Test 2 is a good deal more difficult than test 1 where you got 47%.
c) Answering 11 correct equals 73% which is also what the alert on the page says.

Conclusion
Therefore one should have serious doubts about the validity of the test 2 result you posted.

O  Valid      O  Invalid

O  Invalid

The conclusion is plausible but does not follow deductively. (Apart from the mathematical impossibility, which I'll ignore.)

Incidentally, a person who doesn't really understand logical deduction could take test 1, score badly, read the results and explanations, and be much better prepared for test 2. That's also plausible.

There were some stuff in the test that I didn't understand. I didn't think to review the test to help me out with test 2.

Khris

The conclusion of my bonus question is of course invalid; like Snarky said it doesn't follow deductively.

The beautiful irony is that you answered "valid", confirming that one should have serious doubts about your 73% (by answering wrong). You probably meant to indicate that your posted result is what you actually got in the test, however that wasn't the conclusion.

The thing is, and I should've mentioned this in the post where I linked you to the test, I didn't really want to know your results. All I wanted is for you to see how you'd fare in a logic test.

Calin Leafshade

#56
I got 100% in the first test. Go me!

You guys aint got nothing on this.

EDIT: aww yeah, 100% on test 2 too. *winner*

Virgil

I must insist I helped on Calin's tests.

monkey0506

I'd say that based on his admission that the conclusion became valid, though it obviously wasn't one of the original assertions. ::)

Calin Leafshade

I'll 'assert' you in a minute.

*shakes fist*

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