The Art of Theft (New Yahtzee)

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Stupot

Quote from: Hammerite on Tue 13/11/2007 15:27:36
Is it in any way related to the Trilby series (apart from Trilby, of course)?

I don't think so. I think we all deserve a break from welder's masks and tall bald men.  It's great to see Trilby in his own environment doing what he does best.
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Radiant



Hah! Completed the Master Challenge!

And I got a T rank on the first two scenarios, and four costumes by now.  ;D

Jon

Another great game, thanks Ben!

i k a r i

Great game !! thanks for the info..

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Too bad we know he will die later >_<
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QuoteWell, one think is not liking him, and the other is making humour of the retarder people!
Nacho speaking of Bush.

tod

hi

I found a bug in game.

In  'heist 1' in 'protoscorb'  on secon flour something blocking the way.

it can't be avoided in any way

that's to bad, because game could  be great...

Radiant

That's not a bug, you can roll under that once you have the Roll upgrade.

blueskirt

I just finished it with perfect ratings and all of that. It is truly Yahtzee's best game so far. And m0ds, I hope you'll release the soundtrack of that game soon, I want to listen at the training mission theme 24 hours on 24.  :=

jery

hi

nice game, but prisone level is to hard to finish.



TheJBurger

Well, I've just finished the game with a second run through to get perfect marks on all 8 levels (which I just did) and all 6 costumes. And I have to say, it's much more fun the second time around (at least for me). After finally understanding the gameplay, I could purchase the skills that actually mattered which created some great scenarios where I finally had to fully utilize all the skills. That being said, my favorite level is probably LVL 2 (the museum).

More comments! (and more SPOILERS!)
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- Is being invisible 100% of the time with the ninja costume + certain skills a bug? I could dart through every level with it and the only thing that could stop me was the laser beams.
- Bug with the "Sidle" skill using certain costumes. On some costumes, when Trilby slides he's still in the pinstripe.
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I have also heard there are more secrets besides the 6 costumes, but I have yet to find any.

For those of you frustrated with the game, all you need is one costume to get rid of half your troubles, and one skill to get rid of the other half. Once you pair up that costume with that skill, you can breeze through every level and it's nearly impossible to lose (I'M not KIDDING!).

Stupot

what so wearing a particular costume and pairing it up with a particular skill while on a particular level makes it easy?
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TheJBurger

Quote from: Stupot on Wed 14/11/2007 08:03:40
what so wearing a particular costume and pairing it up with a particular skill while on a particular level makes it easy?
Yes, but drop the particular level part, and you won't really get the skill or the costume until you've beaten the whole game.

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p.s. You can find the most awesome secret if you play lvl 8 with the cream suit. I'm not going to spoil its awesomeness, but trust me, it's awesome.
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Radiant

Here's my unofficial walkthrough with hints for people who are stuck and so forth.

blueskirt

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I don't agree with some of your tips for the skills, Radiant.

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Locksmith 2/3: All heists are completable without Locksmith 2/3, more difficult but completable.

Sidle: EXTREMELY useful to cross complex laser beams patern, like the 2 vertical and 1 horizontal lasers partern of heist #6, without beaking a sweat. It also allow you to move in penumbra and, still in penumbra, place yourself closer to where you need to be while you're waiting for the cameras and guards to synchronize themselves or look the other way, saving a couple fractions of seconds here and there that can make a big difference later on. It is, with Roll and Locksmith 2, the most useful skill in the game, and it is also required to earn the maximum RP score of 8802.

Bargain hunter: This has an effect as it allow you to earn the required amount of loot to finish a level without having to collect the most guarded loots. That being said, it doesn't help in the completion of the main objective, it only help to achieve the loot quota to leave the mission. With this skill it is also possible to get perfect ratings without collecting all the loots during the heist. That being said, unless if loot quota give you troubles, I suggest getting this skill with the master challenge's RP, before you try to achieve the perfect ratings.

Reasonable doubt: Very useful, this skill give you enough margin to get more reckless and run past guards and leave their field of view, hide in shadow or behind them without getting any alarm. With this skill you can turn a series of tedious waiting for guards to look the other way into one fluid motion where you enter and leave people's field of view without giving them the time to realise what just happened.
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TheJBurger

Quote from: Radiant on Wed 14/11/2007 10:20:45
Here's my unofficial walkthrough with hints for people who are stuck and so forth.

Excellent work Radiant. If I may make some suggestions:

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Flit: Not a necessary skill, but very useful in certain areas. Probably most useful when a camera spots you and you use it to slide under the camera.
Gecko hold: This upgrade I'm pretty sure is necessary to beat LVL 6 with a rank of T (that's how I did it, and I dont think you can otherwise). You can use this upgrade to hide yourself in all those places where there's open light.
Sidle: Not the most useful skill, but definitely very helpful in all sections with the laser beams. I would certainly recommend getting it to reduce the chance of error when walking around lasers.
Reasonable doubt: You should get this one later on after getting all the essential skills. This skill really helps if you are aiming for a T rank on all missions. Lots of potential alarms are avoided with an extra second or two given to hide for each guard.

I would recommend getting (in roughly this order) Roll, Locksmith 2/3, Sidle, Gecko Hold, Flit, Reasonable Doubt, Into Shadow, and Forgetfulness. And it is possible to get all of those listed in one game.

Another trick: Rolling off the edge of a screen gives you a speed bonus, as Trilby rolls into the next screen. This can save several seconds each screen pass.

I also have a list of the rest of the costumes, if you would like that.
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blueskirt

Quote from: TheJBurger
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Gecko hold: This upgrade I'm pretty sure is necessary to beat LVL 6 with a rank of T (that's how I did it, and I dont think you can otherwise). You can use this upgrade to hide yourself in all those places where there's open light.
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You can. I got all my T ratings and maximum RP score without this skill. Where do you need it for in the 6th heist? If it's for the second screen when all the lights are still turned on, here's my method:


(Warning massive spoiler below)


It requires the Roll and Reasonable Doubt skills. As soon you enter the second screen, follow the guard in front of you, as soon you can go down, climb down twice, then quickly run and roll past the guard at the desk to reach the far end of the room and climb twice and you just reached the light switch in one fluid motion, you'll be spotted 3 or 4 times but you'll be gone before anything trigger an alarm.
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joshofalltrades

Salutations, all...

I am one of the testers who worked on this game, and a few of us decided to keep a dedicated fan forum going for this game.  In addition to game discussion, we are running speed run contests and some other fun stuff is going on, too.

Anyway, if you want to compete with your fellow players, go to:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/unofficialaot/index.php?act=idx

Yahtzee advertised this on his site, but I didn't see it mentioned here.

Hope you're having fun with the game!  I know we did!

Also, to the person who wondered if this game had any relation to the other games:  beat a certain Heist with a certain outfit and you'll get some serious John DeFoe action going on.  If you want to know more, you'll have to come to the Official Unofficial Forums, though.

-J

TheJBurger

Quote from: joshofalltrades on Wed 14/11/2007 20:07:00
Also, to the person who wondered if this game had any relation to the other games:  beat a certain Heist with a certain outfit and you'll get some serious John DeFoe action going on.  If you want to know more, you'll have to come to the Official Unofficial Forums, though.

-J

You mean this?  - Spoiler screenshot: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4352/welderbr7.png

Radiant

I've updated the walkthrough per the above suggestions. Thanks!

Storygamer

Ok, I'm very interested in this game, but I have a couple concerns before I download.

I absolutely loved 5 Days a Stranger, but unlike most people, I am not a big fan of the rest of the series.  7 Days I thought was okay, Trilby's Notes far too gory and disturbing, and even that was nothing compared to the bleakness of 6 Days.  I know everyone else loves this whole series, but after the first one I just found it all depressing.  Each to his own, I guess.

I loved Galaxy of Fantabulous Wonderment, though.

Anyway I am just wondering--I know people say this one is not as "story-heavy" but I just want to know, how is it for gore, horror, and the "disturbing" factor?  A lot of gamers love these, but I don't, and I don't want to download this game if it's going to leave me feeling the way I felt after beating 6 Days.

(Sorry if this is coming off critical.  I really do respect the talent and effort it took to make those games, they just aren't my personal cup of tea, that's all)

m0ds

It's an action platformer.

No horror. No gore, as far as I'm aware. Maybe in one of the bonuses...

Though it may be a "prequel" to the series of sorts, it's not directly related to the other games. It's just using his popular character, Trilby, burgaling places.

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