BG c&c yo rly!

Started by vict0r, Tue 06/12/2005 20:58:49

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mozza

#40
Sat 10/12/2005 00:42:14
I'm surprised at how far this has gone!
IMO InCreator has the best glass, but a cross-section would make it look more realistic. InCreator and Andail's lighting effects would look good, but the chartacter would need to be suited more to the BG. Also, another problem could be with some of the other BG's in the game: this might end up completely different to the room right before or after it.

BTW, my dad is an electrician and I think that there is normally only 3 wires. I'll just confirm that with him when I see him.

TheYak

#41
Sat 10/12/2005 05:34:35
There are probably only two wires coming from a light-socket.  If it's a normal electrical outlet (at least in the US), there would be 3 (Positive, Negative, Ground), probably colored differently.  Unless, of course, the property in question is from the early 80's or before in which case, it'd have two wires (or two per socket for four wires total in a parallel vs. serial wiring system more commonly found in more expensive older dwellings not yet up to more modern wiring code). 

The only reason you'd have three to four wiring from a light socket mounting like that would be for AC power (used in some fluorescent fixtures or ceiling fan/light fixtures). 

mozza

#42
Sat 10/12/2005 11:17:28
Quote from: YakSpit on Sat 10/12/2005 05:34:35
The only reason you'd have three to four wiring from a light socket mounting like that would be for AC power (used in some fluorescent fixtures or ceiling fan/light fixtures).Ã, 

I was sort of thinking it could have been from a fan fixture or something like that.

vict0r

#43
Sat 10/12/2005 14:53:06
and here is my latest edit!

ManicMatt

#44
Sat 10/12/2005 16:28:58
It's great from how far it's progressed, but it still looks like there's no glass in the window.

InCreator's, like someone else said, kicks ass!



I've used the wrong colour, but how about the ol' cartoon effect?

TheYak

#45
Sat 10/12/2005 16:53:37 Last Edit: Sat 10/12/2005 16:56:36 by YakSpit
I was playing with the glass in the window (and incorporating a frame), but unfortunately, I didn't use layers so couldn't correct my worst errors due to general laziness.

Anyway:


Clone-brushed opposite wall with high transparency, working backwards to mirror it, filled the shape with very transparent layer of color similar to light, painted in a quick frame for it.  I don't think I ended up doing what I wanted, but it does look a little more window-like this way (definitely went overboard on reflective streaks and not enough transparency so that I mucked up your details outside).

vict0r

#46
Sat 10/12/2005 17:25:11

Hope i did it right this time! :) Also changed the "cola" logo on the bottle :)

IM NOT TEH SPAM

#47
Sat 10/12/2005 17:54:47
...I find it amazing how this picture progressed from an empty, mint-green box to something with some meaning.

I think this picture is about done.  The window's good, the wallpaper works, the only things that bother me is the soda and the cracks by the light plug.  But that's only the smallest of nitpicks...

vict0r

#48
Sat 10/12/2005 18:05:52
Quote from: Lord Nipper on Sat 10/12/2005 17:54:47
...the only things that bother me is the soda and the cracks by the light plug. But that's only the smallest of nitpicks...

How would you say that i can improve those then? :)

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#49
Sat 10/12/2005 18:10:45
That's the problem, I don't know.  But they bother me, and to me don't look good in the image.

Nikolas

#50
Sat 10/12/2005 18:29:24
I don't know, after seeing Andails paintover I thought :"Oh my God this is great" And when I saw inCreators paintover I said :"Scrap Andail this is great!".

Anyway they both have used lightining in a very good way, in which I have no idea how they did it. But your lightining is lightning for flies. It seems to be able only to attract flies and nothing else. I mean you have a lightbulb which effects a radius of 50 pixels? The rest of the room is not effected?

I don't know how, InCreator or Andail did it, but try layers. layers of light and layers of darkness and layers of less light and so on... Fix it somehow...

vict0r

#51
Sat 10/12/2005 19:39:28


I agree that andail and inCreators versions are much better, but doing this style i need to do some serious touchup on my char. I am willing to do this if the masses prefer this style, but i dont know where to start.


Here is my char. Anyone with some idea how to make him more suited to the style, please show me :)

Kweepa

#52
Sat 10/12/2005 21:00:36 Last Edit: Sat 10/12/2005 21:19:04 by SteveMcCrea
Quote from: Nikolas on Sat 10/12/2005 18:29:24
I don't know, after seeing Andails paintover I thought :"Oh my God this is great" And when I saw inCreators paintover I said :"Scrap Andail this is great!".

InC's comment specifically says he painted over Andail's edit. I think all he did was to add some detailing, which looks a bit out of place in my opinion.

For some C&C, I think you missed half the point of Andail's. You should make a lot of the little details larger, and overlapping. Exaggerate the size of things. Make the mouse hole huge. Make the hook in the ceiling huge, and the bulb huge. Add more boxes. Moving boxes are generally almost cubic. Put some sheets on the bed. Add skirting boards, picture rails. Reduce the amount of floor and ceiling visible.



EDIT: This is meant to be a layout thumbnail, not a finished piece!
Still waiting for Purity of the Surf II

vict0r

#53
Sat 10/12/2005 21:04:44
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Nikolas

#54
Sat 10/12/2005 21:07:06
Steve I didn't mean any disrespect to Andail or his paintover. Sorry if it sounded like that. I hope that he knows that...

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#55
Sat 10/12/2005 21:34:29
Quote from: vict0r on Sat 10/12/2005 21:04:44
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I think what he meant to show you was the room would have alot more effect with some exxaguration, like instead of having a 3- pixel hook have a huge one.  Have 5 or so scattered boxes, a lower hanging painting and a bigger mousehole. 

And i think the light should be flickering as to add the effect you want, but bright enough as you can see what's going on in the room.  Right now it looks like the room has a thick fog inside, or is covered in smoke.

vict0r

#56
Sat 10/12/2005 23:34:33
why would the hook be big? :-\ :P

Anyway ;D Here's my newest and probably last edit! :P I cant go on editing this one pic if i want to get the game done :) But thanks for all crits people! You've helped bigtime :)



Sorry for stopping the tread, but thought it was time :) I might add some more cardboard boxes and remove the spilled drink, but wont post them when finished! Again, thanks for all crits! :)

Andail

#57
Mon 12/12/2005 10:27:58
I understand if you want to stop the thread, but I just have to say that the background isn't really good, and it would have helped if you had listened more to people's c&c.
Right now, it seems that only a percent of what people told you actually made a difference. Steve had an excellent point in how your objects and details are far too tiny and too spread out, but you rewarded his post with three dots.
I don't know, it just seems like a waste of resources.

vict0r

#58
Mon 12/12/2005 15:57:09
Quote from: Andail on Mon 12/12/2005 10:27:58
...but you rewarded his post with three dots.

I thought he was being sarcastic or something :P But, hey! I can continue working on this :P Post when i've added some details...

vict0r

#59
Tue 13/12/2005 20:18:08

How's it now? Added another box, added carryingholes on the boxes, added a book on one of the books, added a lighter on one of the boxes (the red thingy), added a blanket to sleep under, added holes in the mattres, cleaned up the spilled soda, and replaced the glass with a blue cup(harr ;D) and added some cracks by the hole in the ceiling! What do you think of it now? :)
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