Confused over blurring of BG - Solved

Moneytalks · Fri 16/09/2005 19:57:30

I have been making a new scene for my game, No Magic Required. This is how it looked before blur:

When i went to blur the image, these little yellow dots appeared, flickering constantly across the BG. The more i blurred the BG, the more these dots appeared. I tried the image fresh, but still they came!
Can others see them, or is it just my monitor? If you can, does anyone know what they are, and/or how to get rid of them? It may seem trivial, but they are extremely annoying!

Thanks in advance!

Al_Ninio · Fri 16/09/2005 20:07:29

You've managed to accidentally create an optical illusion, I'm afraid.
Might want to change the colours, or something.

However, why blur it? Looks worse when you blur it, if you ask me.

jetxl · Fri 16/09/2005 20:08:52

You mean the yellow dots in the crossings of the black lines? They are optic illusions.

Or do you mean the green dots in the field that have no effect and thus you should have removed then.

Moneytalks · Fri 16/09/2005 20:13:04

Al_Ninio - The blurred, dreamy feel fits the style of my game. Thank you for the advice, have you any idea to remove them?
Thanks

Jetxl - Did you really feel the need to post that? I ask this as i believe you to know full well that i meant the yellow falshing dots, due to the fact that i mentioned "Yellow, flickering dots" in my original post! So don't post if you have nothing constructive to add.

Thank you.

jetxl · Fri 16/09/2005 20:18:37

If you can't handle critisism, you shouldn't have posted in the critic lounge.

You can get rid of the "yellow dots" by making the black lines dark gray. And remove those stupid green dots that have no use while you're at it.

Al_Ninio · Fri 16/09/2005 20:22:43

Quote from: jetxl on Fri 16/09/2005 20:18:37
And remove those stupid green dots that have no use while you're at it.

If you can't give proper constructive criticism without resorting to phrases such as 'stupid green dots', you shouldn't have posted in the critics lounge.

Moneytalks · Fri 16/09/2005 20:36:08

Thank you Al Ninio, i see you understand the point i was getting at, Jetxl, it was the way you gave the criticism, making it obvious that you never intended it to aid my BG. Though i thank you for the advice involving the yellow dots, as i have now cured the problem!

InCreator · Fri 16/09/2005 20:56:08

And still, the blur sucks.
Dreaminess could be achieved with much better-looking ways, such as better color usage (tones of pink or cyan, etc), removing XL-sized black outlines, using other tools than line tool, to make curvy shapes.

jetxl · Fri 16/09/2005 21:02:37

My oppinion is free. And you are free to ignore it. Do what you think is right, I or InCreator are not going to cross you.

Another thing. Not related to ANY dots. Dream seqences usualy have only blurry sides. This is good, because walk-behind areas in ags are hard to define with blurry lines.

Paper Carnival · Fri 16/09/2005 22:04:53

I don't see yellow dots...?

Suggestion: No blurring looks better than with blurring. Instead of blurring it, try drawing your scenes in double the size, then scale it down to half the size.

Oz · Mon 19/09/2005 11:31:04

Quote from: jetxl on Fri 16/09/2005 20:08:52
You mean the yellow dots in the crossings of the black lines? They are optic illusions.

Or do you mean the green dots in the field that have no effect and thus you should have removed then.

What are you smoking dude? I don't see any yellow dots in the black crossings. Why would intersecting black ountlines cause an optical illusion? I think you are thinking of this one:

Chicky · Mon 19/09/2005 12:07:09

or maybe this, with inverted colours. Just like monkey's picture.

Andail · Mon 19/09/2005 15:58:10

This is an interesting yet superfluous discussion, seeing as the blurriness only makes the background worse. I actally don't understand how you can think it improves the image, when it justs makes you dizzy and creates optical illusions!

JetXL was being polite in his first post, so neither MoneyTalks or Al should make too big deal about it. If you want to make your image better, you'll have to face c&c.
Being overly sensitive and defensive towards c&c won't make you a good background artist.

For the record, I don't see any dots either, so it prolly has to do with monitors and hertz and stuff.

Al_Ninio · Mon 19/09/2005 16:30:01

Quote from: Andail on Mon 19/09/2005 15:58:10
If you want to make your image better, you'll have to face c&c.
Being overly sensitive and defensive towards c&c won't make you a good background artist.

Somehow I doubt that "remove those stupid green dots" counts as constructive criticism...
And while being overly sensitive and defensive towards criticism won't make you a good artist, being overly offensive with your criticism and providing no further information other than "remove this or that because it's stupid" won't help anyone become a better artist, either.

Oz · Mon 19/09/2005 16:51:33

Quote from: Chicky on Mon 19/09/2005 12:07:09
or maybe this, with inverted colours. Just like monkey's picture.

Uhm? That has no effect at all.

jetxl · Mon 19/09/2005 17:09:51

I said: remove those stupid green dots that have no use while you're at it, Al_Ninio.
For some reason you keep forgetting that last bit. Very annoying.

Andail · Mon 19/09/2005 19:03:35

Al Ninio:

To sum up.
Jet:

QuoteOr do you mean the green dots in the field that have no effect and thus you should have removed then.

Quite polite, and a good advice at that.

Money:

QuoteDid you really feel the need to post that? I ask this as i believe you to know full well that i meant the yellow falshing dots, due to the fact that i mentioned "Yellow, flickering dots" in my original post! So don't post if you have nothing constructive to add.

This is rather defensive as a response in the critics lounge. Jet isn't trying to mean or destructive, he's actually helping him.

Please just leave the moderating to the moderators next time.

veryweirdguy · Mon 19/09/2005 19:07:29

Quote from: Oz on Mon 19/09/2005 16:51:33
Uhm? That has no effect at all.

I see flashing white dots there. where the black ones "are" in the one you posted. Although it can vary from person to person, from what I've seen. So yeah, I believe the problam at hand here is an accidental optical illusion.

Oz · Mon 19/09/2005 20:48:48

Quote from: veryweirdguy on Mon 19/09/2005 19:07:29
Quote from: Oz on Mon 19/09/2005 16:51:33
Uhm? That has no effect at all.

I see flashing white dots there. where the black ones "are" in the one you posted. Although it can vary from person to person, from what I've seen. So yeah, I believe the problam at hand here is an accidental optical illusion.

Yes, could be. Now that I look closer, I do see white dots in the inverted image, but the effect is not as noticeable as in the non-inverted image. However - what creates the illusion are the dots in the intersections, which are not in Monkeytalk's image. Thus, there is no possibility of an optical illusion on the castle wall. 8)

I think that Moneytalk is referring to the white dots on the field that someone advised him to remove.

Haddas · Mon 19/09/2005 22:22:20

I see this optical illusion on the blurry pic. Flashing faint yellow lights. Then again I see all sorts of patterns and different shades of stuff after watching this.

This is completely unrelated and stuff. also don't watch it if you're epileptic. I'm serious. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Haddas/epilepsy.swf I warned you! I start seeing green cubes...