Solo piano work

Moresco · Sat 21/04/2007 15:53:23

Actually it has much more than that. There's dry, wet, reflection distance, early reflection, late reflection, padding, you can cut frequencies or boost them - in fact there's even a map that you can edit that in interactively, zoom in, zoom out, everything. On top of that, there is a simple low/hi response and original signal/modified signal output. Plus there is final signal output. There's a lot more that goes into a modeled reverb than you might think.

I think the problem is that I'm not familiar with jazz and I usually mix rock/metal/classic rock music, etc. Jazz piano sounded boring to me, so I remixed it. And for the record of the people who have heard, nobody else has had any problems with it.

Nikolas · Sat 21/04/2007 19:30:03

Quote from: theRedPress on Sat 21/04/2007 15:53:23
Actually it has much more than that. There's dry, wet, reflection distance, early reflection, late reflection, padding, you can cut frequencies or boost them - in fact there's even a map that you can edit that in interactively, zoom in, zoom out, everything. On top of that, there is a simple low/hi response and original signal/modified signal output. Plus there is final signal output. There's a lot more that goes into a modeled reverb than you might think.

I know, and I think very right.

Depends on the reverb of course.

Now, face it, the edit you did, did not end up at a realistic result. The reverb was, simply, too much.

You are implying that there are pianos that sound like this, but I will have to dissagree (as I said in my initial post to you, unless you are talking about some rock/pop bizzare mix, but not for a solo piano).

Anyways, everyone to their opinion I guess...

Moresco · Sat 21/04/2007 20:38:21

Hehe of course I don't think pianos sound like that, it was an experimental thing to try. Either way, it didn't work out so great and that's ok. Onto new things

Nikolas · Sat 21/04/2007 20:44:57

Of course, and I'm looking forward to listening to your stuff

Gregjazz · Sat 21/04/2007 21:04:38

Quote from: theRedPress on Sat 21/04/2007 15:44:00
The only way to accomplish that would be to make a separate layer of the track, add reverb to it, and keep the other track in its original condition.

What you essentially described is a bus. When using reverb, I always have it on a bus.

Quote from: theRedPress on Sat 21/04/2007 15:53:23
Actually it has much more than that. There's dry, wet, reflection distance, early reflection, late reflection, padding, you can cut frequencies or boost them

Well, that's just the controls of a typical comb reverb. (8 comb being fairly standard) It's a pretty artificial (granted all models are artificial) way of recreating reverb, but it does provide some controls which resemble basic auditory cues--early and late reflections, damping (the general surface material of that which reflects), and so forth.

I need to get back into convolution reverbs--those can sound REALLY sweet! Only, they introduce a notable amount of latency.

Just keep in mind I'm not really intending on critiquing your remix, but just elaborating on some issues which could benefit the general group. So no offense intended on any of this.

Moresco · Sat 21/04/2007 22:03:24

Oh no offense taken

Yup a bus works too. In samplitude and some other software it has a realtime sort of "ghost" of itself where you can alter the reverberated track and keep the source in there untouched as well. Then you can just easily move a couple of sliders to change how much of the source you want, and how much of the reverb. It's pretty sweet I think, and you can do this with other plugins and things too.

I hate latency. When I record there's always latency, even on my very advanced machine - I either will get dropouts or I will have some degree of latency. Seems unavoidable. Never heard of convolution reverb.....I just checked it out, and now I have!

Seems awesome. Apparently you can get it for free so I'm going to try it out.

Nikolas · Sat 21/04/2007 23:08:35

Convulsion reverbs:

I use SIR, which is free, and you can get plenty of IRs. In some sequenvers there is a latency, but in Cubase SL3, that I use, there is none! so it's extra sweet actually nad very nice to work with!

Moresco · Sat 21/04/2007 23:37:42

Never tried Cubase, I shall have to give it a go someday.

No latency would be excellent.

Nikolas · Sun 22/04/2007 00:02:48

Hem,

no latency for reverb (and SIR in particular) I mean. There is no computer connected with midi controler with no latency. Around 8-10 msec you will get. It all comes down to your sound card really... and you drivers of course

Gregjazz · Sun 22/04/2007 07:35:40

Haven't tried SIR with ASIO before, maybe that'll speed things up (although ASIO has low latency, it tends to include audio artifacts, which is why I usually stay away from it). Once I put my electric guitar through an impulse of an acoustic guitar, and it sounded just like an archtop. I need to mess around with that again...