Nazi wardrobe (Now Goebbels)

Started by Nacho, Tue 24/06/2003 18:57:35

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Nacho



Hello... This are some paints I´ve made for a project I have in mind. It is about a Mossad (The israeli Intelligence Service) Mission, where three men are preppaired to travel along the time and kill Hitler in the "best" moment possible (All the moments are good for killing bastards of that kind, but, If you´ve read Asimov´s Foundation series you´ll know that are times better than others in history...)

Well, the three men are deployed in one of the WWI battlefields, but a bomb wounds the military advisor of the mission. The two other decide to help Hitler to reach the power and win the next WWII for gaining an overwhelming power.

Edit: I´ll need help if this project goes on... PM me, specially programmers and arist whose art fits with mine (this goes for you Proskrito  ;))

Years pass and things are going well for the Nazi regime... The two traitors have important information about history and future tecnologies to make Hitler rule the word, but... In a battle in the last struggle for defeating Moscow, a Nazi general receives a hit in his head and reminds the past, and the mission in which he MUST succed.

Help this guy in changing the history, help the Red army to change its fate and convince US to help the Allies in the War in Europe.


Please, C+C the wardrobes... which do you like? Would you do changes?

Important notice: This project shows severall nazi stuff. The main itself is an important Wehrmacht General (which doesn´t necesarilly mean he is a damn nazi). If you´re offended by this stuff make me know and I´ll see how to change the storyline, I don´t wan´t to offend nobody.

P.S. Don´t compare this stuff with Xadhoom´s art... I don´t want to be crushed by his amazing art  :D
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

Scummbuddy

I wouldnt' be worried too much about going up against his art.  He may use a little bit more colors for shading or whatever, but yours are very very good.  Im very impressed.  keep up the good work.

Although, the first and the fifth one look strikingly similar  ;)
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Nacho

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Quote from: Scummbuddy on Tue 24/06/2003 18:59:59
Although, the first and the fifth one look strikingly similar  ;)

Eeer... Yeah, scummbudy... One is bottoned to the neck and the other not, I shouldn´t pretend to make it pass as two different sprites  ;)

About Xadhoom... I think we can´t compete, because our style is different, but he´s making another game with nazis and I don´t want to bother him... BTW. I love his art, it´s amazing (and I must confess... an inspiration for some sprites here...)
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

|Alky|

Already said this, but I love the art for this game...
and the story sounds damn cool too...
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loominous

I like them alot. Some comments:

(i) The eyecolors strike me as a bit strange. I d give them *one* of the blue colors you use or use a darker skincolor (since the iris (the colored part of the eye) is not very representative of the eye as a whole).

(ii) The characters in the darker uniforms looks flat n could use some shading.

(iii) the boots looks a bit wide at the ankles n calves.
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Nacho

Quote from: loominous on Tue 24/06/2003 20:15:13
(i) The eyecolors strike me as a bit strange. I d give them *one* of the blue colors you use or use a darker skincolor (since the iris (the colored part of the eye) is not very representative of the eye as a whole).

Thanks for the comments! I´ll take a look to your advises, sure they will work for make it look better.

As for the eye, yeah, I´ll probably use a darker blue in one of the eyes, but not in both (the character is a "popeye" because of the bomb in the First world War. Notice that one the hands has a glove. He has no hand also. As Stauffemberg, a Nazi general who attempted to kill Hitler.
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Darth Mandarb

#6
Farlander - I'm very impressed!  I would love to help out but between my own AGS project and the 'real-world' I don't know that I'd have any free time!

But great work on the sprites man!  Now really wow us with some animations!!!

dm

edit - I could be wrong, but the last soldier (smaller version) looks like his gun is missing?



n3tgraph

Farlander this is supreme indy style stuff

teach me allready :P ;D
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Flippy_D

Nice stuff, but to diverse for a minute:

Okay, if you're going back in time to kill Hitler, you're already dead. Why? because if you succeeded, then in the future (where you decided to go back in time), Hitler would already have died, but in that case, you would have never had gone back to kill him, but then he'd be alive, so you'd go back to kill him, but then he'd be dead.....

It goes on like this. The only way it would work is if you went back in time to kill him, but failed and/or died. That way the future would be unchanged.

So, booya.

SSH

Flipmiester...

Another possibility is that you go back in time for another reason but kill Hitler too while you are there. That way you would still do the going back in time, because you would do it for another reason, like betting on hosre racing ;)

Anyway, as every Red Alert player knows, killing Hitler means that Stalin causes WWII instead.
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|Alky|

Flippy D : The paradox thing is what makes it so cool, surely..

You could make it even cooler by having the player-character save a prisoner, who fathers the player-character...that would just be wierd...
Alex 'Alkaline' Cline

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Nacho

#13
Quote from: Flippy_D on Wed 25/06/2003 16:42:23
Nice stuff, but to diverse for a minute:

Okay, if you're going back in time to kill Hitler, you're already dead. Why? because if you succeeded, then in the future (where you decided to go back in time), Hitler would already have died, but in that case, you would have never had gone back to kill him, but then he'd be alive, so you'd go back to kill him, but then he'd be dead.....

It goes on like this. The only way it would work is if you went back in time to kill him, but failed and/or died. That way the future would be unchanged.

So, booya.

Yeah... it´s the tipycal paradox "if you kill your grandmother in the past...". But now the scientist say that the time travels shoul go "to the sides", not to "the back". I mean... we would create a new future, in a new dimension, not just a change in OUR past, that changes the "present"... So, you would ask ¿Why do that guys all that? they´re not going to earn nothing!But... yes, they can! Imagine one of the time travellers is a scientist and he make the humanking progress a lot... We could "go" to that advanced dimension, and share tecnology knowleadge with them. It has a lot of problems, like "So, why on hell they don´t go to the future?" Well... We will try to explain all them in the game.  ;)
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

12431

Oooooh. Eyecandy. I love these! please post a gif where one of the bastards get shot! that's all i miss from this "so far so good" project of yours!
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Xadhoom

#15
Oooooh, nicey nice. I can't for the love of God see how you think this is inferior to my pics...In my opinion these are better. You got way more detail into the outfits, they're clear and easy to read, AND they're even easier to animate since you used way fewer colors than me...something I have to learn, heheh. ;)
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Other than that, sounds like a cool game. Guys, christ, don't get started on the whole chrono-paradox thing...it'll make your heads explode. Let's just pretend you can go back in time, alter something and return home, remembering everything but the world is changed to suit the changes. Deal? It is a game after all, not a revision of the theory of relativity (or some other better fitting science project of insurmountible advanced-ness)...just look at the good ol' Journeyman Project games. Great, great games with excellent storylines, and some pretty wonky views of timetravel. But did it work within the context of the game? Oh yes it did.

As for crits: I don't like that you are seeing the rifle straight on the SS soldier. It's not directly wrong, I just think it would look better if you turned it just a wee bit...

And I don't really like the shading and highlighting on the pants of the officer in the brown/greenish uniform. I think it would look better if you just kept it flat shaded like the rest.

And the collar on the Wehrmacht soldier needs to be raised a bit...it looks like his neck is a foot long! ;D

That's all I really can think about, the rest looks great! :D Keep 'em coming!
.::XADHOOM::.

MrColossal

time travel where?? not on my watch!

hmm this may not be helpful since you said comment on the warddrobe only but:

anyway the only thing i can think to add is that they appear rather stiff

sure sure, they are nazis and they are in the middle of a war so consider it later on not to have everycharacter standing straight on staring at us

the pants look like they spilled some boogers on them or something. the light green splat doesn't help at all.

offending someone: don't bother with that. if someone is really offended and they feel they need to stop you from making a game about nazi germany than they have no concept of anything else beyond their own feelings and should be discounted.

time travel: flippy, you know first hand that that will happen if you go back in time and try to kill hitler? who knows what happens. there's linear time, there's multiplicity there're paradoxes there are tons of theories

eric
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taryuu

has anyone said anything about the feet??  to me they don't look like they're in reallistic poses (both spread to either extreme)  but they all do look very nice, maybe a little more shading all around too.

and as far as offending anyone goes, F^%k 'em,  they don't ahve to download your game, and they should now that there are worse thigns on the net.  like nazi porn for example.
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Nacho

#18
Here are some new characters:



I am having terrible troubles with the legs of ther big bad Nazi... Exersice... do a squeme legs for him, I´ll reward you!

I see that the main crits come for the boots and the shadowing. I´ll fix the shadows, but this are just squemes. I´ll will work also on getting more realistic posses. Thank you all guys for the crits... I am seeing things I´ve never imagined that were wrong!

Edit: I supposed that there were going to be no problems about the nazi stuff, because you are all smart and you know the difference between stuff for a project and fu*`ng nazi meorabilia, but I had to mention it.

P.S. I was not very happy about making a game where you must save the jews, because it´s a too serious matter even for beeing the aim of the game. Good news, in the new storyline, the jews are safe, the main problem is that the nazis are developing a nuke bomb (you must avoid it!!!)
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

aussie

It's good stuff, Far.

Do you have any b'grounds we can look at?
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