Nazi wardrobe (Now Goebbels)

[prototyp3]

Good stuff!

I hope you don't mind me doing a quick edit to your sprites, but I didn't know how to explain it clearly without an example.  I think you could help these characters make a stronger impact by using one color shading.  Like on the gray suits, using a darker shade of gray to draw in some hints of shadow and form/contours.

I'm also looking forward to seeing what style of backgrounds you're going to be using.

[Scummbuddy]

Goring and Himmler seem really really nice!  I think the big bad guy's arms are set too far away and may be a bit too long, but I love his expression.

[Proskrito]

hey farl, those characters looks wonderful!!
However, te big nazi looked a bit comical to me, dont ask me why. I tried a superquick edit:

Its a bit crappy but i just wanted to show basic shapes.
And sure i would like to help you in this project, either with graphics and/or scripting. it sounds interesting and the graphics looks wonderful.

[Nacho]

Yeah! The nazi is comical... I want it, the big nazi dumb!  

Eeeer... Proskrito... WHY DID YOU PAINT HIM IN UNDERWEAR???  

[Proskrito]

emmm... its not underwear. it reminded me of a clint eastwood film, he (clint) is an army officer (i think) training a reckon group. and there was a HUGE swedish guy. the character reminded me of that guy, and he had shorts like the ones i drew.
edit: and i didnt want to draw his genitals  

Oh, it was supposed to be comical... I read "big bad nazi", so i thought that he was supposed to be big, bad and nazi  .
btw, If you want him dumb, you could try to change the face into a dumber (sp?) one

[Nacho]

Oh, it was supposed to be comical... I read "big bad nazi", so i thought that he was supposed to be big, bad and nazi  .
btw, If you want him dumb, you could try to change the face into a dumber (sp?) one

I suppose I want a balance between dumbness and strenght... I think I almost have it here! Big, semi-dumb Nazi with legs! (And trousers)

P.S. And yes! The legs have been leased by Zangief, The russian soldier of Street Fighter... blame on me!

[Neole]

The new ones look great as well! Giving me a 'Tintin' feel, which is a very good thing!

[Nacho]

The new ones look great as well! Giving me a 'Tintin' feel, which is a very good thing!

Yeah... I noticed it, specailly with Himmler... It is not intentional, but  learn to draw with Tintín, so... I suppose it has something to see.

[n3tgraph]

farlander the big bad nazi's croch is way too low... :/

I did this:



but the legs still are wrong
but I drew it just to let you see it

[Proskrito]

mmm... i still dont get his dumb point... i think you would have to work on his face for giving him more dumb expression, now he just look angry, imo.
2ma2 had some tips about how faces show personality.
The arms still looks like attached to the body to me, and about the zangief legs, N3T is right about his crotch being low, but i think you should remove the space between the crotch and the belt, rather than raising the crotch

[n3tgraph]

nooo,

that would be rather weird
btw.
Dumb guys (with a low iq that is) can be strong and mean if ye know what I mean.

[Proskrito]

well, i dont know if i explained mysef, so this is what i wanted to say.(dont mind the hands, i just copied and pasted )

Dumb guys (with a low iq that is) can be strong and mean if ye know what I mean

yes, you are right, but we are talking about characters for a game, and usually you would want to emphasize the characters personality in the sprite. Think of Dr. Ubermann and Klaus kerner, Kerner could have been the genius scientific, why not? but they were drawn that way for a reason.
What  i wanted to say is, tha Farlander said that he wanted strong-dumb guy, and looking at the sprite i can see that he is strong, but not that he is dumb.

[Darth Mandarb]

Farlander - Fu#*ing WOW ... these are kick a$$!!

I can't wait to see this game develop!!

Don't worry about the Nazi stuff, I think most intelligent people here aren't offended by it.  We know you aren't givin' props to them or anything  They're an integral part of the game, so they should be done right.  And I think I speak for most here when I say you're doing it very right!

Keep up the great work man!  This rocks so far!

dm

EDIT - This just begged me to work on it ... so I hope you don't mind!!

[12431]

soo, who do you play in this game? a rebel? jew? nazi (oh god no!) or an englishman?

and shouldn't you have some kind of nazi doctor? you know, many nazis tried to create zombies and such. that should take place in your game!

[Nacho]

Ok... Let me explain  

The main character is a Wehrmacht general (which does not necesarilly imply he´s a nazi) who receives a hit in his head and reminds that he is actually a Mossad agent whose mission is to time travel and kill Hitler.

But the enviroment in which he is is different to the history we know. The nazis had conquered UK and are going to conquer Moscow. That´s because the old greedy mates of the Mossad agent are helping Hitler (with historical information and technology advise). That is nice for me for two reasons:

1) That allow me to put "good" Wehrmacht characters, because in this "dimension" there will be two different and defined parts of the german Army. The wehrmacht and the SS (the F*cked nazis). For example, Rommel coud help us in some parts of the game.

2) There will be emotion because we won´t know for sure that german will finally loose the war.

The character investigates for finding clues that the jews are being killed and make the main german army (The Rommel army, the "good" guys) to join the Allies. He gets news, one bad and one good. the jews are safe. The bad one... the Nazis are developing the Nuke bomb.

Any ideas for the plot?

[12431]

yeah! involve some buttugly zombies! I love it when they die! they're so melodramatic!

[Darth Mandarb]

I totally dig where this is headed ...

How 'bout this:

You play a character (the Mossad agent) who travels back in time with a mission to infiltrate the German army and get close enough to Hitler to whack the bastard.  They (your bosses) have specified the date by which you must accomplish this.

When you start the game though, you're a dedicated Nazi.  The reason is because, in your attempt to get close to Hitler (showing your 'false' dedication) you were taken by force and brainwashed by the SS into being a fanatically loyal Nazi.  (It could be something their evil scientists were doing behind the scenes to make the armies more loyal).  They didn't know you were a spy (assassin), it's just something they were experimenting with.  You have no memory (yet) of the experiment being done to you.

So you start off completely loyal to Hitler and the Nazi party.  Maybe even do a few parts of the game as a Nazi, doing evil things, being a sick Nazi bastard.  You could even put in elements of the main character having nightmares about what he's done/doing, but he doesn't understand because he's so loyal to the Nazis.  But then, in a Allied bombing raid you receive a nasty blow to the head and the brainwashing is erased ... you remember your mission now ... But the time frame is much closer and you don't have a lot of time to accomplish your mission.

Also, all the differences you described (between actual history and your story) are still there.  When you come off the brainwashing you realize that the time line has been altered because you came back in time ...  So in effect, you caused the differences in history.  You, as loyal brainwashed Nazi accomplished things that wouldn't have happened if you hadn't traveled back in time ...

So at this point you could 'branch' the story ... either you fix the time line and not kill Hitler (because, in a moment of morality, you realize you have no right to effect history like this) or you say screw it, this is for the best, and you whack Hitler and leave the past altered and worry about it later.

The second option could lead into a really interesting sequel to the game that takes place present day, but the world is a different place because you killed Hitler ... and you're the only one who knows it ... so you once again travel back in time ... this time to stop yourself from killing Hitler ...hahaah!!

dm

[Nacho]

 :o  :o  :o

Nice ideas... That makes me avoid a complicate intro I had in mind... I´ll work on it. But I´m not very sure to play the character of a convinced nazi (even having being mind-washed...). I think the best should do him as a "good" wehrmacht soldier. I am not very happy also with the idea of the hit in the head... too casual... I´ll work on it, but I think I´ll have a project with N3t, Barcik and Scotch to finish before... Where on hell is Barcik?

[Darth Mandarb]

So you mean he'd start off as a Wehrmacht soldier, who doesn't agree with Hitler and his ideology but he doesn't know why?

I wasn't real happy with the 'hit in the head' idea either, but I thought that's what you wanted  So perhaps think of a different way to have him remember his mission?

I thought it would be a cool thing to have the time frame in there because you could always keep track of what date it is, and the time when you have to kill Hitler is also displayed ... maybe like a count down ...

dm

EDIT - By the way ... did you see this animation I posted above?

[Nacho]

Hehehe!   I like tha animation a lot. BTW.. if you want to impress my and for joining the team, don´t work in that sprite, because I´m working on it to make it a little less humorous (You don´t need to impress me again, BTW...)

I like the idea of a soldier who does not like Hitler and does not why...