"Old background - How should I make the Backgrounds better?"

[InCreator]

BTW, increator, shouldn't the asterisk the '*' symbol? '?' is the question mark.

Oops! Yeah it should. "Ask" and "asterisk" kind of blend in my old brain. Anyway, fixed post.

[Dr Fred Rubacant Edison]

I try to fix the barrel and fixed the clock. And added a few other things.

And thank you for all helping me. I think its satring to look better.


Update











I tryed to post it as a gif format but it did't show up in the post?

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

The barrel perspective is off (it should be tilted upwards more - less of the lid showing) but the rest is looking very promising.  The clock in particular shows effort, and that's what it's all about!

[zabnat]

For the barrel you could try something like this.
Draw a box in place of the barrel using perspective. Try to make it as wide as it is deep (not very easy). You should end up something similiar to this:


Notice that there is a square at the bottom of the box and at the top of the box. On those squares you could try using methods described here or here to draw a circle in perspective. It's a bit difficult with so few pixels around, but maybe you could try it first in bigger scale and then try to replicate the results in smaller scale.
And when you have two circles in perspective, just connect the circles and you get a barrel.

You can also use InCreators 3D image to see what the result should look like.

[Khris]

1. Here's the first floor of the mansion from the latest version of the Maniac Mansion starter-pack:


(edit: this is by no means a completed background; just meant to show the original look and the floor gradient)

I erased the staircase's railing, then redid the ground using three simple steps in PSP7:
-create a suitable gradient in a second window
-scale it to match the area (I decreased the height to about 50%; circle -> oval)
-add ~20% of uniform noise

2. As I've told you, perspective isn't too important here:

The desk is off; so is the bed and the monitor. But it doesn't look totally off. It's just fine.

3. A circle will always "stay a circle", perspective-wise.
The first tutorial zabnat posted is plain wrong, the second is a bit better but still using a method that's really only suitable for drawing by hand.

A circle must always be drawn as a perfect ellipse. No matter where the vanishing point is or at what angle the original circle is displayed. (If you don't believe it, pick up a CD and look at it from all angles )

To draw a barrel, use the ellipse tool and switch it to vector mode. Draw a few of them, gradually increasing the height from top to bottom.
Make sure their left and right edges are alined, merge the layers, done.

(4. And please do us a favor and put a little more effort in your written word.
Wouldn't the thread's title look better like:
"Old background - How should I make it better?")

[Dr Fred Rubacant Edison]

Updated Background. I tryed to fix the barrel.  It still dose not look right. I will redo it agian. I changed Frame Colors and i think they look better. But the rotten dum barrel looks smathed agian.









ANd sorry stil not showing up on page has Gif.

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

Try removing the barrel from the room, drawing the wall behind it and then use those lines to help you shape the barrel.  Save the background without the barrel separately in case you mess up (or if you have layers draw the barrel on a new one).  You can make the rough shape of the barrel with perspective lines much as you would a cabinent or something.  The only difference is you have to work inside the lines to round the shape.  I made a quick barrel using approximate perspective lines from my original example, try pasting this over the the spot where the barrel is and using the perspective lines from the vanishing point in my example to see if you can draw a box around it.  When you do this stuff enough you'll be able to reasonably guess this sort of thing, but since you're struggling why not save yourself some trouble and use the perspective lines to create the general shape so you don't have to? 

[Dr Fred Rubacant Edison]

Thank you for the help.

You said you want me to copy and paste and barrel you made to use or  copy and paste so i can use it has a base.

[Dr Fred Rubacant Edison]

New Back Ground

I fixed up this back ground with some of the same rules. But I'm trying to make a chair and I'm really not happy how it came out.






BTW this is the other side of the room that i was working on before.


ITS PNG NOW

[Khris]

Please, for the love of whoever, save and upload your images as Portable Network Graphics (*.png), not artifact-riddled jpgs.

[Dr Fred Rubacant Edison]

FIXED

[Dr Fred Rubacant Edison]

I fixed the Chair. What do you think of it.

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

Let's try this again.  You can either:

A) Ignore perspective completely and just draw the room however you want.  This works for some people.

or

B) Follow perspective using vanishing point lines to draw the room and furniture.


Doing a mishmash of both results in something awful, so decide now if you want to pay attention to what I've been trying to show you with drawing rooms in perspective or whether you just want to draw the rooms freehand.  This is important because the parts of the room you took from my example and the parts you are adding in now clash because mine are following the vanishing point and yours aren't. 



Take a really good look at this.  Don't immediately try to copy it or turn out a quick edit but really look at what I'm showing you here, it will help you (honest!).  Pay careful attention to how on the right side of the room (which I drew) the vanishing lines match up with the curtains, the top of the window, and the bottom wall line.  Note that on the left wall, which is essentially just a flipped edit of the right, this does not work.  Why?  Because the vanishing point is closer to the right wall than the left, it is not centered in the room and therefore the distance to the left wall is longer, making the wall skew more.  The tentacle painting is likewise off perspective, the bottom of the frame most of all.

Pay careful attention to how I drew a really basic table and chair over yours using the vanishing point.  Pay attention to how their angle varies with respect to the point (the closer they are the lower their angle with respect to the viewer until items directly beneath it appear head-on). 

I would like for you to redraw the table and chair using this vanishing point and then display an edit with the vanishing lines and the vanishing point marked clearly on your image.  This will tell me that you are listening to what I am explaining and that you understand it.  I've included a copy of the image with the vanishing point marked for you to work from (it is the yellow pixel at 343,1).  If possible, draw the chair and table in a location other than where they are right now so I can see how well you understand perspective lines.

[Dr Fred Rubacant Edison]

I tryed to fix the bottom of the picture and is dose not look right. I will post background soon.