1st normal BG needs C&C

[Corey]

http://k256.superihost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28#28

there you go...

and I dont care about the patern, you didnt have to show me, like I didnt noticed

[vict0r]

Heh I meant the bricks on the small path up to the house.

and I dont care about the patern, you didnt have to show me, like I didnt noticed

Well, if you noticed, you should see that it doesn't look right! If you want to make games people want to play, you should make an effort with the art!

[Sean]

Hi Corey!

A few people have been a little 'harsh' with you but I think that you should listen to their advice. From what I can tell you already know what the issues with your image are and want to be 'shown' how it is you can improve. It's great that your eager to get your art up to a high standard. However in my opinion you seem to be a little defensive when it comes to the more negative criticism. You really should prepare yourself for both types of criticism when you post your artwork and ask for people to crticize it. Your second version is an improvement but it's stil a bit of a 'mess'. Filters.. I know people have said this a few times but it's really advice you should at least consider listening too. Filters just make everything look and 'feel' cheap. It's obivious that your trying to improve and I think you can if you listen a little better. Already the image has improved quite a lot and if you spend an hour or two more on it then it can only get better.

Good luck with your art

[Moox]

My God Vict0r, I didn't remember you as an E-thug. Seriously, instead of yelling at the kid and trying to prove that your right in 3 posts, just help him.
In my oppinion there is nothing wrong with it, if he wants to go with a style based on oversized textures, no perspective, and lighting psp plugins, more power too him. I did the same thing when I started. Practice makes perfect.
Instead of texturing it all at once Corey make wireframe outlines.That way you can easily try both colored and textured bgs.

[Grapefruitologist]

WOAH!
I was just reading this thread (since I'm posting my own BG for criticism), and saw the finished BG... I didn't even notice it was a real picture of rocks! That's pretty good.
Well, anyway, I just wanted to say that, don't really know why but it's better than mine. Only thing I did notice was the fence-I'd work on that fence more.
Well, that's just an opinion from a 13-year-old who knows nothing about backgrounds or art. Since most of your players are going to be kind of like me anyway...
Anyway, good job, bye.

[DonB]

..Am I the only one who thinks the fence is good as it is?? 

[Corey]

..Am I the only one who thinks the fence is good as it is?? 

no lol, I think it's ok the way it is... afterall it's a spooky mansion 

[vict0r]

My God Vict0r, I didn't remember you as an E-thug. Seriously, instead of yelling at the kid and trying to prove that your right in 3 posts, just help him.

Heh Sorry if i was a bit harsh, but after reading this thread before posting it seemed like corey really wasnt keen on doing any work himself exept the first pic.

Practice makes perfect.

One of my points! You dont get any practise from asking people to do things for you

And again, sorry if i seem a bit harsh, but i'm just trying to help you

[Corey]

I never asked anyone to do things for me... I only used the image khrismuc made coz I really didn't know how to make it right. The rest I improved myself 

[vict0r]

Filters just make everything look and 'feel' cheap. It's obivious that your trying to improve and I think you can if you listen a little better.

This fella has a great point! Listen to what people say, and look at the different paintover people have done for you. And then try to improve it again!

EDIT:

...instead of yelling at the kid and trying to prove that...

The kid? I'm just as old as he is

[Corey]

Filters just make everything look and 'feel' cheap. It's obivious that your trying to improve and I think you can if you listen a little better.

This fella has a great point! Listen to what people say, and look at the different paintover people have done for you. And then try to improve it again! 

thats exactly what I did, isnt it??  nah don't awnser, i dont wanna know 

[vict0r]

I wont say anything since you obviously are not interrested in c&c, even though you posted in the CL!

Good luck with your game!

[Corey]

I wont say anything since you obviously are not interrested in c&c, even though you posted in the CL!

Good luck with your game!

cool a message from the opposite world 

[DonB]

Quit it now..

[Sean]

However in my opinion you seem to be a little defensive when it comes to the more negative criticism. You really should prepare yourself for both types of criticism when you post your artwork and ask for people to crticize it.

Read my original post and you'll see I was quite sympathetic towards you. Now, I just think your wasteing my time.

[Corey]

However in my opinion you seem to be a little defensive when it comes to the more negative criticism. You really should prepare yourself for both types of criticism when you post your artwork and ask for people to crticize it.

Read my original post and you'll see I was quite sympathetic towards you. Now, I just think your wasteing my time.

no, I really appreatiate what you said only victor is bothering me 

[vict0r]

I am bothering you? I'm just frustrated of the fact that you dont seem to get the point of critics... Allready from the beginning it seemed like you knew all that was "wrong" with your pic.

- There's no good detail

- Too much textured stuff used

- No light

- Wrong prespective

- Etc.

Why didnt you just fix those things before posting then?  

So there's enough that can be better on this BG... so please help me.
Feel free to add or remove things on this image but I cannot ensure that your edit ends up in a game

What it seems to me that you are saying here is: "There is no need to crit this, since i already know what is wrong with it! But please make me a better version of it, but if i dont like your paintover, i wont steal it and use it in my game!"

Again, i'm sorry if i seem harsh, but i'm just tired and frustrated! Smacking someone in the head really hard would help me...

[Sean]

Victor has tried to help you. He hasnt got the patience of a saint.However its not as if he is bullying you, most of his posts are blunt but truthful. Anyway, I was needlessly direct earlier but your attitude had irrataited me. My apologies.

Good Luck

[TerranRich]

The point of this forum is to get constructive criticism on your artwork so that you, the creator of said artwork, may improve upon it and make it better. If you don't want to change it yourself, or if you don't want criticism, then don't put your artwork up on this forum.