9-11 Over?

[He-Man]

First of all do not support terrorism in any way and I think 9/11 was very terrible.
I think the saddest thing about 9/11 is that even though 3 years have past the American government has done absolutly nothing (at least for what i know) to figure out why a lot of people hate America so much that they are willing to kill them selves and hundreds of others for that cause.
The bush administation just keep invading new countries and killing people. Trying to find scapegoats instead of even considering their own flaws. It's no wonder that people get so desperate that they feel that the only solution is terrorism. And the simpathy that everybody had towards America after 9/11 now has turned into even more hate than before 9/11.
I still believe that no one is born evil. I believe when you see your family and friends die from hunger or war or what ever because of some money hungry nation wants to police the globe you turn desperate.
I think we'll have to remember 9/11, but i also think that we should learn from it. As well as I think we should learn from World War II and any other part of history. No one seems to do that...

[SSH]

Strange that there didn't seem to be much on 9/11 in America becuase there was plenty on TV here in the UK. Including a program about the "REAL" conspiracies that did 9/11 and tired to frame Osama for it  :

Anyway, the difference between the terrorist mindset and everyone else outside America is that the terrorists hate all americans becuase of their arrogance, pervading culture, imperialism, hypocrisy and the war on iraq. Eveyone else only hates Republicans, but for the same reasons.

[DGMacphee]

Eveyone else only hates Republicans, but for the same reasons.

I wouldn't say everyone only hates republicans (I could name a few good ones).It's just the current administration that's giving republicans a very bad name (even more so than usual).

[SSH]

Don't mess up my pithy hyperbole with the facts, man! 

[Moox]

My real question is why do people support kerry? If they are anti war then why would they vote for kerry? He bragged about vietnam for crying outloud! He wont end thw war, he will support it!

[MrColossal]

Do you follow politics at all LostTraveler or are you just making huge assumptions based on no knowledge?

[Andail]

You need to research more, Losttraveler (although you're partly right)
Kerry's experiences in the Vietnam war made him realise it was bad, and made him join the anti-war movement.
Some people say it's because he's an ambivalent muddlehead, a traitor even; others might argue that he simply reached an insight.

Apart from that, the main reason to vote Kerry would be simply to get rid of Bush. It doesn't seem to happen though.

[evenwolf]

My real question is why do people support kerry? If they are anti war then why would they vote for kerry? He bragged about vietnam for crying outloud! He wont end thw war, he will support it!

He very well might support the war.Ã,  But he would be a step away from extreme conservatism, which is what the US government needs right now- rather then a leap to the right with Bush.

By "bragging about Vietnam" do you mean how he played up the fact that he fought and Bush did not?Ã,  [ Uh, not everyone who fought in Vietnam supported the war, I'm afraid.Ã,  Ever hear of the draft? ]

He also plays up his Vietnam experience because his country is already occupying Iraq.Ã,  The majority of voters will vote for someone who has experience with military procedures over a man with none.Ã,  It makes them feel safer, even though they're probably aware that the president is guided by a number of staff members.Ã,  No one wants a beatnik when the fires are already raging.

[Moox]

Yes Eric, I follow politics.

Kingsized, By bragging I mean he is overusing it as his campaign stratagy. I know perfectly well about the draft, but why would Kerry use his war expierence as pne of the key reason to vote for him unless he supports it. The liberals I associate with support him because they think he will end the war. A peace maker doesnt discuss his war expierences for more then a few times. There is nothing wrong with being right winged, there is nothing wrong withe being left winged. I just feel that with this man america will be worse the before. One of his key advisors would be his wife, the heinz lady, who has stated her hatred twords america openly, and edwards. If edwards is such a great guy who helps the children the how could this trial lawyer take millions from them, he chased wheelchairs to make his living.

[gary]

Lost traveller.
if you did know anything about politics in the U.S. youd realise there are only two choices. the person who started the war, and the one who didnt, who do you think the anti war peoiple are going to vote for? its not a question of who is the better president, its a question of who is not bush.

[Dave Gilbert]

Hm, I suppose this was bound to turn into a political discussion.Ã,  Here's my two cents.

If the republican party is good at anything, it's putting a positive spin on things.Ã,  Last year, they estimated that we'd be over $480 billion dollars in debt.Ã,  Turns out we're $420 billion dollars in debt.Ã,  Instead of worrying about it, or trying to fix it, their spokesmen get on TV and say, “Look!Ã,  We're $60 billion dollars better off then we thought we would be!Ã,  We're doing great, and it's all because of our strong decisive leadership, etc…”Ã,  Ã, What makes this so incredibly sad is that the majority of Americans fall for it.Ã, 

As for Kerry, it's not a matter of “I fought in Vietnam, so vote for me.”Ã,  He didn't just fight in Vietnam, he was a highly-decorated war hero.Ã,  He won three purple hearts for bravery, among other awards.Ã,  And still he campaigned against the Vietnam war in the 70s because he realized how pointless it was.Ã,  The fact that he is a decorated war veteran who knows the facts â€" and horrors - of war should count for a lot.Ã,  Unfortunately, its not.Ã,  The Bush camp is making Kerry out to be a coward and (stupidly enough) a traitor, and it's working.Ã,  It's kind of admirable that Kerry is taking the high-road and not going on the offensive, but it makes him look like a wimp in the process.Ã, 

I think Kerry would make a fine president, but it won't happen because the man can't campaign worth a damn.Ã,  The democrats should have stuck with Howard Dean.