Parental advisory stickers

Started by ManicMatt, Wed 07/06/2006 11:04:54

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Exorph

Quote from: MashPotato on Mon 12/06/2006 17:18:15
I would have a problem if a gallery covered up nudity in paintings, but I wouldn't care if they posted a sign outside the exhibit stating that the exhibit contains nudity.  While I don't think a warning is necessary, I have no problem with them informing people who may have a problem with it.  The art itself is unaffected by a warning.

I thought about this yesterday actually..
Instead of putting stickers on the packaging, I think a better idea is to have the offensive albums in a separate section where you buy your music.
Or you could put the stickers there, but it could be up to the seller, not the record label. I mean there's really no point in putting stickers on albums you buy online as it could say on the order page if it's offensive or not.

Quote from: lo_res_man on Mon 12/06/2006 16:57:01
But is a commercial musician, who has a contract and makes oodles of money doing hack work, (99.9% percent of music) an "artist"?

Are you kidding me? Far from 99.9% of all musicians make a lot of money.. hell.. far from 99.9% of all musicians even have a contract.
And far from 99.9% of all musicians WITH contracts make a lot of money..

Erenan

Quote from: Exorph on Tue 13/06/2006 00:08:55
Instead of putting stickers on the packaging, I think a better idea is to have the offensive albums in a separate section where you buy your music.

I'm not sure store owners would like that idea. They'd probably assume it would make it harder to find what you're looking for because suddenly artists would be in two sections simultaneously if some but not all of their albums qualified as offensive.
The Bunker

Exorph

Yes, I thought of that to.. It could be solved by having empty cd-cases saying something like "<I>50 Cent - Gangsta Jesus Pirate Ninja Hustler</I> Found in Offensive section".
But yeah.. I'm starting to feel that might just become messy.

There are still other solutions though. But as long as the stickers aren't forced onto me, it's fine by me.

Erenan

I think people who swear should be forced to wear one of those stickers. :P
The Bunker

ManicMatt

I swear, but depending on the circumstances. I won't swear in front of children, and I won't swear in front of my mother. Mostly.

So maybe I'd have some kind of adaptive sticker on me?

LimpingFish

I swear all of the time. In private mostly. I don't actively try to avoid swearing in public, I  just never really feel the need.

(B*llocking shower of f*ckers!)
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skyfire2

who came up with the idea that swearing is bad, and why?

Nine Toes

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I can only guess that the answer is somewhere in history.  But, if you actually think about it, it makes a lot of sense.

Take the word, "shit".  What is the meaning of the word "shit"?  Fecal matter.  Stool.  Poo-poo.  Doody.  Dung.  Would you walk into a bar, and start a conversation with a girl about your bowel movements?  Of course, "shit" is not a word that you would say in the presence of others.

How about "ass"?  An "ass" is, simply put, a burro or donkey.  Somewhere along the line, "ass" became where "shit" comes from.  Your butt.  Bunghole.  Poopchute.  Balloon knot.  Take my example from "shit", and replace "bowel movements" with "cornhole".

A "bitch" is a female dog.  Somewhere along the line, this became an insulting way to describe or refer to a woman, by calling her a female dog.  So, when your mom asks you where you and your date are going, you wouldn't say, "I'm taking my bitch to the movies."  You may soon find yourself "bitch"-less, and probably getting your mouth washed out with soap.

Now... "Fuck".  That's an interesting word.  I have no clue as to it's origins, and even though it seems to fall into any word category (noun, verb, adjective, etc), I have no idea what it originally started out as.
EDIT:  I looked it up on Wikipedia, here.  I always knew that it meant to have sexual intercourse, but I didn't know if that's what it originally started out as.  In the olden days, sex was supposed to be something kept between two people who loved each other (not just out of manners, but also thanks to the bible).  Take the saying, "...A gentleman never tells."  If it's only supposed to be between you and your lover, then you wouldn't even mention the word in public.

"Damn" is used to describe someone who is going to "hell" when they die, I believe.  I guess it could be frowned upon, because only the man upstairs knows who is and who isn't going to "hell".  Who are you to say who is "damned", and who isn't?  "Goddamn" would be a double-whammy, because you're also taking the lord's name in vain (something that people didn't do because of the ten commandments, "Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain, or bear false witness".)

As I stated before, "hell" is where the "damned" go.  "Hell", of course, is a place viewed as being filled with flames, magma, screaming, and eternal suffering.  You wouldn't want to go there, so why would you talk about it or think about it?

So, these words aren't necessarily "bad".  I assume at one point in time it just became customary to not speak these words aloud in the presence of others, or not at all, for the sake of class and manners.  But, nowadays, even "fuck" doesn't have a whole lot of shock value anymore (...and to think, "fuck" is supposed to be the godfather of all four letter words...).  And with the way that people treat each other now, it doesn't surprise me that some people don't understand why these words are viewed as "bad".
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SSH

Quote from: Mr. Hyde on Wed 14/06/2006 10:18:56
Would you walk into a bar, and start a conversation with a girl about your bowel movements?
No, but I have had conversations with other parents about my children's bowel movements...

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How about "ass"?  An "ass" is, simply put, a burro or donkey.  Somewhere along the line, "ass" became where "shit" comes from.  Your butt.  Bunghole.  Poopchute.  Balloon knot.  Take my example from "shit", and replace "bowel movements" with "cornhole".
Actually, ass is just a bowdlerised American euphamism for the word "arse", meaning the buttocks.

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A "bitch" is a female dog.  Somewhere along the line, this became an insulting way to describe or refer to a woman, by calling her a female dog.
In Italy and Spain it pretty much just means "prostitute" when applied to a woman.

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"Damn" is used to describe someone who is going to "hell" when they die, I believe.  I guess it's only frowned upon because only the man upstairs knows who is and who isn't going to "hell".
"Damn" on its own is usually just an abbreviation of a phrase like "God damn you", so its all the commandment stuff.

Its funny how "crap" is more acceptable that "shit" and "do the horizontal tango" is more acceptable than "fuck" and "derriere" more acceptable than "arsehole" and "lady lumps" more acceptable than "tits" and "kebab" more acceptable than "cunt". THEY MEAN THE SAME THING!

So, I say: drop all the fornicating doo-doo and speak plainly, you oedipal self-abusers  ;)
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Nine Toes

#49
Quote from: SSH on Wed 14/06/2006 10:41:56
Quote from: Mr. Hyde on Wed 14/06/2006 10:18:56
Would you walk into a bar, and start a conversation with a girl about your bowel movements?
No, but I have had conversations with other parents about my children's bowel movements...

Is that what I have to look forward to in fatherhood?...  Argh!  Someone get me out of here!  (just kidding :P)

Actually, when I was younger, I got my mouth washed out with soap a few times for saying "crap".  I didn't know why, though.  I always thought "crap" was a sort of generic version of "shit".

I guess my mom must have accidentally bought too much palmolive, and came up with that lame excuse to get rid of some.
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Phemar

Quote from: Mr. Hyde on Wed 14/06/2006 10:18:56
Now... "Fuck".  That's an interesting word.  I have no clue as to it's origins, and even though it seems to fall into any word category (noun, verb, adjective, etc), I have no idea what it originally started out as.
EDIT:  I looked it up on Wikipedia, here.  I always knew that it meant to have sexual intercourse, but I didn't know if that's what it originally started out as.  In the olden days, sex was supposed to be something kept between two people who loved each other (not just out of manners, but also thanks to the bible).  Take the saying, "...A gentleman never tells."  If it's only supposed to be between you and your lover, then you wouldn't even mention the word in public.

I heard somewhere that in the old days if you wanted to have sex you had to get permission from the king so it meant Fornication Under Consent of the King.

Probably just an urban legend though.

lo_res_man

I heard to differant stories about the origin of the word "fuck" one was that if you were caught you had to where a sign that said For U
nlawful Carnil Knowledge, similer to the kings permission story.
I also heard that it came from the old saxon word foken which means, "to beat against" An apt description I always thought ;D
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Nine Toes

It says right in the Wiki article that both of those initialisms are false.  False etymologies of the word "fuck".

However, lo_res_man is somewhat correct about the origin of the word:
Quote from: Wikipedia
It is unclear whether the word had always been considered impolite and, if not, when it was initially considered to be profane. Some evidence indicates that in some English-speaking locales it was considered acceptable as late as the 17th century meaning "to strike" or "to penetrate"[1]. Other evidence indicates that it may have become vulgar as early as the 16th century in England. Other reputable sources such as the Oxford English Dictionary contend the true etymology is still uncertain but appears to point to an Anglo-Saxon origin that in later times spread to the British colonies and worldwide.

I love Wikipedia.
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ManicMatt

Yes, "strike"!

Germanic (compare with Swedish dialect 'focka' and dutch dialect 'fokkelen'); possibly from an indo-European root meaning 'strike', shared by latin pugnus 'fist'.

I didn't read that on the internet. Don't you people have books?

Nine Toes

What are books?

*Looks it up on Wikipedia.*
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PsychicHeart

Anyone remember (and you should, it wasn't that long ago  :P) the Bloodhound Gang song: Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo.
Cheesy, no?
Formerly known as Flukeblake, Flukezy etc.

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