A UFO theory.

Domino · Sat 02/08/2008 00:23:09

I would be more scared of that UGLY car coming at me than the UFO.

Is it really true that Aliens Anal Probe humans when they get on their ship??

Nacho · Sat 02/08/2008 14:52:39

Quote from: Domino on Sat 02/08/2008 00:23:09
Is it really true that Aliens Anal Probe humans when they get on their ship??

Is that a retorical question? How can anyone answer that, since nobody has been abducted?

tube · Sat 02/08/2008 18:24:02

Quote from: Nacho on Sat 02/08/2008 14:52:39
Quote from: Domino on Sat 02/08/2008 00:23:09
Is it really true that Aliens Anal Probe humans when they get on their ship??

Is that a retorical question? How can anyone answer that, since nobody has been abducted?

Hey, why don't you just let the poor guy fantasize?

Domino · Sat 02/08/2008 18:27:36

Hey, watch it there. :

tube · Sat 02/08/2008 23:09:54

Quote from: Domino on Sat 02/08/2008 18:27:36
Hey, watch it there. :

Sorry, couldn't resist the setup.

Domino · Sat 02/08/2008 23:11:35

It was funny though.

radiowaves · Tue 05/08/2008 16:45:06

YouTube - David Adair Reveals Light Speed UFO Technology Pt.. 1

YouTube - Area 51 : The Frantic Caller

Nacho · Tue 05/08/2008 17:54:19

Something told me that Radiowaves was a believer...

evenwolf · Tue 05/08/2008 22:52:07

Quote from: radiowaves on Tue 05/08/2008 16:45:06
YouTube - David Adair Reveals Light Speed UFO Technology Pt.. 1

What was that guy sedated with? Elephant tranqs? That was the most boring, droning thing I have ever watched. His story is intriguing for a firsthand report but where is a video demonstration of the device he built?

As for the 2nd video, I would never present an obvious radio prank as evidence... well actually

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wf5TPVz56A

radiowaves · Wed 06/08/2008 12:04:06

Did you watch all the Pts of David Adair? David Adair is actually a well known scientist.

If this stuff is boring to you, then there is no wonder you doesn't believe at all. Do you expect new War of the Worlds?

The second video was the famous Art Bell talkshow. Could be fake, yes.

vict0r · Wed 06/08/2008 12:14:20

Quote from: radiowaves on Wed 06/08/2008 12:04:06
Did you watch all the Pts of David Aldair? David Aldair is actually a well known scientist.

If this stuff is boring to you, then there is no wonder you doesn't believe at all. Do you expect new War of the Worlds?

The second video was the famous Art Bell talkshow. As you noticed, they were opressed to run a backup system. A publicity stunt? Maybe, if you can find me an actor who is able to act so real.

I thought both videos were quite awesome, but if David Adair made this engine at age 17, how come he haven't made it again? The second video can be hard to take seriously though, but I must admit that the guy was either a world-class actor or genuinely terrified. 2012 anyone?

EldKatt · Wed 06/08/2008 15:18:17

Quote from: radiowaves on Wed 06/08/2008 12:04:06
Did you watch all the Pts of David Adair? David Adair is actually a well known scientist.

I can't find anything on his credentials (yes, this is an invitation for you or someone else to share your sources), but there are plenty of "well-known scientists" (and even well-educated ones) who are full of shit, so that argument on its own is pretty futile. Just saying.

vict0r · Wed 06/08/2008 16:43:00

I haven't heard much about this guy and I really don't know how one should find out more about stuff like that, but here's some gathered info about him.

scotch · Wed 06/08/2008 16:43:09

As a child David Adair recieved previously unknown mathematics in dreams. He used these to build a rocket aged 11, and after petitioning the government to give him a million dollars he built a nuclear fusion rocket in his father's car garage. If that sounds hard to believe, fair enough, he did have help. From Stephen Hawking (who is also an alien-math dreamer). At 17 this won him a non-existent prize from the airforce. During a test flight of his rocket, it landed in Area 51 (!!) and while he got the guided tour there he saw transparent metal, mind control spaceships and other radical stuff. He was understandbly tired by this experience, so he decided to settle down and earn a living selling books on the UFO fringe circuit, which was cool because now some people on UFO forums have heard of him.

Fair enough, he may not be "well known" or a "scientist" but if you need credentials you can always email Stephen Hawking (could ask him how to build nuclear fusion generator at the same time, if it's not too much trouble).

radiowaves · Thu 07/08/2008 00:28:17

It appears that this Adair guy really seems to be fake. A compulsive lier perhaps? A trick to make money by selling his books and casually mentioning that he could make another rocket (needs funding $$).

Basically everything the guy says is uncheckable. 0 background.

evenwolf · Thu 07/08/2008 04:17:01

What? I thought you were arguing on behalf of the claims he was making.

Nacho · Thu 07/08/2008 07:05:29

Quote from: evenwolf on Thu 07/08/2008 04:17:01
What? I thought you were arguing on behalf of the claims he was making.

It's quite common in the "believers world". They come, arrogantly, claiming that "they know something that the rest of the world doesn't" (Which imply that they are smarter than the rest of the world, of course)

Then, what they believe is debunked by sensible people... They are proven that, they are not only smarter, but also sillier... They they step back and deny what they previously said. A classical movement.

evenwolf · Thu 07/08/2008 07:30:51

Quote from: Nacho on Thu 07/08/2008 07:05:29
It's quite common in the "believers world". They come, arrogantly, claiming that "they know something that the rest of the world doesn't" (Which imply that they are smarter than the rest of the world, of course)

Then, what they believe is debunked by sensible people... They are proven that, they are not only smarter, but also sillier... They they step back and deny what they previously said. A classical movement.

He even said this to me, "If this stuff is boring to you, then there is no wonder you doesn't believe at all" implying that I missed something intelligent in Adair's story. I'm so confused, but not surprised... I'm glad a believer has come to see a fraud for what he is.

vict0r · Thu 07/08/2008 07:59:23

Quote from: Nacho on Thu 07/08/2008 07:05:29
It's quite common in the "believers world". They come, arrogantly, claiming that "they know something that the rest of the world doesn't" (Which imply that they are smarter than the rest of the world, of course)

Then, what they believe is debunked by sensible people... They are proven that, they are not only smarter, but also sillier... They they step back and deny what they previously said. A classical movement.

What?! Get the fuck off your high horse man! You've been a complete cock throughout this whole thread, so please stop. He didn't try to defend himself, but admitted that he hadn't checked up enough on the man's credentials. Not trying to save his ship but admitting that he was wrong. Also, I know you are capable of writing pretty good english, so please do spellcheck your posts as a whole lot of them are more or less illegible. And by the way, a badly written article and a recommendation of a book does not classify as valid sources in my book. The article by Dave Thomas was quite interesting though!

Evenwolf: It did seem like you blew the Adair guy off because he was boring and not because he was a potential fake.

Me? I'm really not a believer but I get involved with these discussions when the "anti-believers" start making silly claims shouting fake at everything they see without proper counter evidence. If someone has a video of an unidentifiable flying light, this is per definition a UFO. I'm not saying it's alien, but hey, most of them don't seem human made so it's natural that people should question it's origin.

evenwolf · Thu 07/08/2008 08:23:40

Quote from: vict0r on Thu 07/08/2008 07:59:23
shouting fake at everything they see without proper counter evidence

Authenticity needs to be proven, not the other way around. No one is going to prove aliens don't exist anywhere in the universe, likewise no one will prove there is no God. It works the other way around and not for absurd reasons so everyone should come to terms with that easily.

That is the core problem, and not with us "anti-believers"... another label.