Bet you didn't see THIS coming....

Started by Peter Thomas, Mon 17/01/2005 04:29:43

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Blackthorne

Check this link out for some answers, though I warn you - it's so bad it's good.

http://www.christianadvice.net/homosexuality_and_the_bible_wink.htm

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Quote from: andail_unplugged on Thu 20/01/2005 14:14:53
Farl, it was a parodic reference to the very worn out cliché "I don't have anything against gays, as long as they don't hit on me."

This remark is surprisingly often uttered by ugly, sloppy, spaghetti-eating man-pigs.

I could only be flattered if gays hit on me, lol. I ask everyone, which is worse: being hit on by gays or being passed over as a "sloppy, spaghetti-eating man-pig" ... yet again?Ã,  :P

Peter Thomas

Being passed over is definitely worse, modge. It's like gay guys getting the once over from a girl. It's flattering (albeit pointless and sometimes disturbing), and much better than getting that "Are you NATURALLY that ugly?" sort of glance.

So take it as a compliment, or else we'll all start writing on the toilet walls about you!
Peter: "Being faggy isn't bad!"
AGA: "Shush, FAG!"

Gregjazz

Quote from: Blackthorne on Fri 21/01/2005 01:51:31
Check this link out for some answers, though I warn you - it's so bad it's good.

http://www.christianadvice.net/homosexuality_and_the_bible_wink.htm

Bt


I laughed so hard I cried. I have no idea how he came to some of those wacky conclusions.

Personally I dislike the term "Christian" because you are lumping together so many different religions -- Catholics, Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, etc. -- whereas many people consider it all one single religion.

Again, it's pointless to argue. All people are doing is restating their beliefs and contradicting each other. What is the purpose of this? There is no purpose.

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires

Biblewise, I think people take things waaaaay too far when it comes to the old testament. I mean, the New Testament God (supposedly - I'm an atheist myself) is much more merciful and compassionate. "Jesus' God" would probably not flood us like it did with Noah's people, and he would NOT "kill witches" - he would say "he that has never sinned cast the first stone". The fact that most people make points like this from the Old TEstament, and it alone, only convinces me further of... of...

...dang, I forgot my point. I HATE it when this happens.
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Man, ha ha ha, remember when I had a heated religious debate with you over this, Mr Peter Thomas? Remember all those things I said? Do you? And then all the stuff YOU said?!!?? Man, you must feel really dumb now, huh?!

I think people should remember this so that next time I say something, they realize I am probably right.

Congratulations on your discovery, Mr Thomas!

Nacho

Quote from: Flamboyant PC Salesman on Fri 21/01/2005 13:24:00
Man, ha ha ha, remember when I had a heated religious debate with you over this, Mr Peter Thomas? Remember all those things I said? Do you? And then all the stuff YOU said?!!?? Man, you must feel really dumb now, huh?!

I think people should remember this so that next time I say something, they realize I am probably right.

Congratulations on your discovery, Mr Thomas!

O_O

She finally told what everybody was thinking!
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QuoteI think people should remember this so that next time I say something, they realize I am probably right.

I don't recall you telling us Peter Thomas was gay. Maybe I just missed the post you mentioned it in.
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Matchew

As I've mentioned in a previous thread, my dad is an ex-clergyman, I consulted him about this topic, and he replied with something he discvered in the seminary in the 70's. He said that Jesus was a very mellow guy who had one simple idea, he explained that Jesus was a lot like the universe, extremely complex, but at the end has a simple answer, that answer was "love thy neighbour as you would love your self" That's it! Eureka! we've had this idea for two thousand or so years, it's about time we understood it, gays are people who love each other, and we should respect that, it's their life, and God loves them (there aint no denyin that) All this bullshit about meat on fridays and contraception is a waste of time.

In conclusion leave gays to do what the hell they want, there aint nothin wrong with loving someone (unless it's like your cousin or a dead body or somethin coz in that case yer just plain sick >:()
matchew has spoken.............. well sort of

Nacho

Daniel, if I remember well, the flamessellPcboy Yufster made a passionate deffense of the gay marriage and Peter Thomas deffended the oposite.

I guess now that he was using all that passion and all that religious stuff to deny what was happening inside of him... Only he can confirm if my feeling is correct or not...
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

SSH

#130
Quote from: Matchew on Fri 21/01/2005 14:12:07
All this bullshit about meat on fridays and contraception is a waste of time.
And, as with some of your previous posts, not relevant to Protestants, who don't have those Catholic restrictions....

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In conclusion leave gays to do what the hell they want, there aint nothin wrong with loving someone (unless it's like your cousin or a dead body or somethin coz in that case yer just plain sick >:()
Not that I'm advocating it, but why is necrophilia wrong, anyway? And when does it become wrong? What if you're doing it with someone and they die, and you don't realise straight away... If it's OK to do it with something inanimate, like  various plastic products available from all naughty retailers, then why isn't it OK to do it with an inanimate body? It's not as if they'll mind. OK, they're relaitves might be offended, but then they might have been offended if you'd done it while they were still alive even if they consented... It might be unhygenic, but then so are plenty of other things, so...

What??????
:-[

Quote from: TerranRich on Thu 20/01/2005 23:27:38
God didn't intend anything for humanity. Hence the "free will" we so dearly cherish.
How does not intending anything follow from giving us free will? Your two sentences have no logic progression.

Let me ask you this: what would be more rewarding. PLaying a game where you always win or Winning at a game where you copuld have lost? Or Creating a Robot that does everythign exactly as instructed or creating a robot that has its own intelligence and can make its own decisions? But if you made a robot that could make its own decisions, you wouldn't intend for it to destroy everything else that you had made and then claim that you didn't even create it.
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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires

#131
It's really more of a taboo issue, SSH. A case of morals. Hardly anyone ever looks at a human body the way they look at, say, a mannequin, because they were once human. Don't try to explain. We are all a bit hypocrital or self-deceiving in that sense. Me, for instance, I have nothing against gay people... but, I don't feel comfortable near them. Nevertheless, I respect them and whatnot and yadda-yadda-yadda... but somehow the whole idea doesn't fit in right with me.

It's the way we were brought up - there's taboos inside us that we may not even be aware of.

EDIT - Hehe, beat ya, YOke! :=
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Quote from: SSH on Fri 21/01/2005 14:36:03
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In conclusion leave gays to do what the hell they want, there aint nothin wrong with loving someone (unless it's like your cousin or a dead body or somethin coz in that case yer just plain sick >:()
Not that I'm advocating it, but why is necrophilia wrong, anyway? And when does it become wrong? What if you're doing it with someone and they die, and you don't realise straight away... If it's OK to do it with something inanimate, likeÃ,  various plastic products available from all naughty retailers, then why isn't it OK to do it with an inanimate body? It's not as if they'll mind. OK, they're relaitves might be offended, but then they might have been offended if you'd done it while they were still alive even if they consented... It might be unhygenic, but then so are plenty of other things, so...

What??????
:-[

This coming from the same mind that thinks up games with unicorns ad fountains and everything. :)
But you do make a point. I believe your point is this: Morals are works of fiction. I would have to agree. Morals is more or less a list of what's "popular", or rather what's really not.
That's why even the church keeps changing their interpretations of the Bible; after all a few thousand years have passed.

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Nacho

I think I've already mentioned that from an ultra careless attitude in front of what corpses represent (and as knowleadge advances dead meat is less considered as something representative of the person who was that meat) necrophilia shouldn't be seen as a "taboo".

But if the meat is not fresh, it's still disgusting!

After YOke and Rui's post... so... yeah! taboos is about morals. It is like making a threesome with your girlfriend. I wouldn't dare, but I know, that, if we do it and some other guy lies with her, nothing phisically changes in her, if we've followed the hygiene rules and all... (No jokes that a huge dick can phisically change a vagina, please  :P we're talking of my girlfriend...)
Are you guys ready? Let' s roll!

DGMacphee

Quote from: Farlander on Fri 21/01/2005 14:30:36
Daniel, if I remember well, the flamessellPcboy Yufster made a passionate deffense of the gay marriage and Peter Thomas deffended the oposite.

It's was a joke.
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Nacho

Yessssh, I guessed... But I feel like a complusive poster lately.. I must go back to bike riding and calm me down...
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Meowster

QuoteIt's was a joke.

WTF?! That's crazy. I don't believe you.

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PaulSC

I'd say one of the main reasons necrophilia isn't allowed is because it's non-consentual - forgetting about whether the body is living or dead, you're basically raping it. And in our society dead people still have certain rights - I mean you're not allowed to dig up corpses and do whatever you want with them as far as I'm aware.

But what if you leave a clause in your will that says you're okay with the idea of people screwing your corpse? Probably still illegal, but SHOULD IT BE!?!? I say no!

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