Bet you didn't see THIS coming....

[Nacho]

That remember me the case of that man who voluntary donated their organs to another if he died... For the other to eat them... eeeeck!

[Harvester]

(this is a reply to the FIRST post, the one where Peter "comes out of the closet", I still don't go into the religious discussion that followed, but if that heats up, I might as well join  )

Dang! Rats! Blast it! I know everyone will hate me, but I am sorry to hear that. I remember that thread about premarital sex, where Peter posted some very good messages, so I kinda thought... Bah, I don't know. Anyway, Peter, you're NOT gay until you have had sex with another man. So, I guess you still have time  RIGHT? I mean, you still haven't...? Or...? I mean, you do understand tha being gay includes... *gulp* ANAL SEX?

[Peter Thomas]

Trying not to piss myself laughing while I'm typing this - people are just funny.

I was expecting Yuf to be the FIRST one to post - I can't believe it took her 'til page 7 to get a word in! Yes yes yes, you're right yuf - you're right and I'm wrong and I will never quesion you again

Harvester - I suppose you can think about homosexuality in purely physical terms if you want, but doesn't the bible say "even if a man LOOKS lustfully at another woman, then he has already commited adultery"? If it DOES (and I know it does....) then it's very much a psycho-mental-upstairs-inyourhead state of being, in which case I have already adulterated a couple of guys....

And as I said previously, this doesn't mean I'm abandoning everything I said before. It's extremely complex to explain unless you've been there yourself, but the christian faith still means something to me - I'm just not too sure exactly WHAT...

[Meowster]

The only reason I wasn't first to post was because I hardly ever come here any more.

Believe me, if I'd have only known how right I was, I would never have left.

[JimmyShelter]

Anyway, Peter, you're NOT gay until you have had sex with another man.

Does that also means a man isn't heterosexual until he has had sex with a woman?   

What a stupid thought.

[Nine Toes]

Mr Hyde: Beautiful description of marriage there, at least what it should be ^_^ If you're not married already, go around telling the women that and you'll have no trouble

LOL.  I'm not the smoothest with women, but if I ever do get married, I'm only doing it once, and I'm only going to say those things if I really mean them.

Besides, I'm not really in any hurry to get married.

[WanderLady]

Doesn't nature itself teach that homosexuality is wrong?
We all know the biology, but the vagina produces a lubricant for the penis while the anus does not.
For the population to continue, a man must be with a woman.
Animals propagate by the male and female.
When all that surrounds one points in one direction, how can it be seen any other way?

Peter: Some questions if that is okay with you...

-- Why do you think this is with you?
-- What has led you to reveal this?
If you wish to be private, PM me if you would.

[Blackthorne]

For the population to continue, a man must be with a woman.
Animals propagate by the male and female.
When all that surrounds one points in one direction, how can it be seen any other way?

Actually, homosexuality in the animal kingdom is highly prevalent.  Or bi-sexuality, if you will.  Why?  Because animals LOVE having orgasms, and they don't care where they come from.   

Whatever.  You know something shocking?  People often [GASP] have sex because it feels good, not for procreation!!!!!!!!! SHOCKING!

Bt

[Peter Thomas]

Wanderlady, I don't presume to know anything for sure. I may very well be deluded into thinking I'm something I'm not, however, for the moment, this is who I think I am. It's hard to give a reason. Why do you think you're heterosexual? It's not the sort of question you can give a one sentence answer to.

As for why I revealed this, well, it was largely because I'd pretended to be something I'm not for so long, and it is INCREDIBLY oppressive, and destroys your self confidence. Revealing it publicly is sort of proof to myself that i CAN deal with this regardless of what peple think.

Another part of it is because I want people to talk to me the way I am. I'm sick of people asking "so do you have a girlfriend yet?" and I end up saying little more than "no, still happily single" when in all honesty I'd been seeing a guy for nigh on 6 months. This hasn't happened so much on the forums, but at least now I know it won't happen at ALL...

[DragonRose]

Doesn't nature itself teach that homosexuality is wrong?
We all know the biology, but the vagina produces a lubricant for the penis while the anus does not.

There is a difference between homosexuality and anal sex. It is possible to have gay sex without ever having anal sex. It is fully possible to be gay and never have any kind of sex at all. Just as it is possible to never have sex and still like the opposite gender.

Gah. I've got to stop visiting this thread. I had to rewrite this three times so I didn't go "BLARGH BLARGH BLARGH!! U IS TEH RONG!!!1!!!11!"

[scotch]

There's nothing moral about nature, Wanderlady. Ã, There is no right or wrong way, there is just the way that survives. Ã, Does nature also prove to us that celibacy is wrong? Ã, Do you use what's best for the propogation of your genes to base moral correctness on when they don't already fit with your belief system? Ã, No, of course not, you wouldn't kill off other's children or be a polygamist because it's what works well in the amoral natural world.
The "it's not natural" argument is stilly, in almost any situation.

[Meowster]

Wanderlady,



One day you will realize what the throbbing sensations in your groin are when you look at that picture, and when that happens, I will invite you around to my house for coffee and a slice or two of humble pie. And the pie will be filled not only with humble, but words. YOUR words. And it's gonna give you food poisoning, this Humble Pie. And as you vomit helplessly across my kitchen table, you will be spluttering and gulping and swallowing some of the vomit as you try to say, "I'm sorry Peter Thomas! I'm sorry Rusalka! I'm sorry everybody! I am sorry I spent so much of my -BLAAARRGHHH- life worshipping a God that acts like Rusalka's Friggin' FASHZZZER."

And then I will accept your apology and we will become best friends, and I will say things like, "I don't know what you see in that George Michael fellow," and you will say things like, "He's so dreamy! Not like that Keanu Reeves fellow!" and I'll be all, "Man, don't you start dissing on Keanu! He is the nicest guy!" And you'll be all, "Man, tell me more about Keanue Reeves!" And, with great pleasure, I will.

[Nacho]

What does George Michael have to see with homosexuality? 

[JimmyShelter]

What does George Michael have to see with homosexuality? 

[Meowster]

I have absolutely NO IDEA!!

[Matchew]

In response to wanderlady................. christ bitch, aint you ever walked through a cow field in yer life, I mean they all fuck each other male or female, they just do it, and don't tell me you aint never seen two male bunnies at it at a pet shop. Geez live a little and come up with some decent arguments (some proof might help too) god I am so angry RRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.............................(sound of fist hitting monitor) Oh jesus that hurt! I'll be a while fixing up my hand, see ya............

[Nacho]

Yes, fix your hand... and your modals... What's that of making a post whose spirit is "make better arguments" and you include pearls like: "Christ bitch, RRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH, ..................................... andÃ,  " ?

In my opinion, even being closer to your position than to Wonderlady's, her post has infinite better arguments than yours (because she has one, and you just have emoticons).

[Pumaman]

I have nothing against gays as long as they hit on me

Hehe; a mate of mine who's gay likes to come on to homophobic men in order to wind them up, and it works surprisingly well

god I am so angry RRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH .............................(sound of fist hitting monitor) Oh jesus that hurt! I'll be a while fixing up my hand, see ya............

Blimey, calm down. What's the big stress?

[DGMacphee]

RRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.............................(sound of fist hitting monitor) Oh jesus that hurt! I'll be a while fixing up my hand, see ya............

Matchew makes a very persuasive argument. I would like to subscribe to his magazine/newsletter one day.

[Squinky]

Anyway, Peter, you're NOT gay until you have had sex with another man. So, I guess you still have time  RIGHT? I mean, you still haven't...? Or...? I mean, you do understand tha being gay includes... *gulp* ANAL SEX?

Heh, this reminds me of 80's vampire movies....The whole not a vampire till you drank blood thing, and having to kill the head vampire to free all the others.....

So, there you go Peter, if you ever get tired of the whole gay thing, seek out and destroy the head gay-vampire guy....heh

Oh, and George Michael can turn anyone gay, dont deny it.....