Bet you didn't see THIS coming....

[DGMacphee]

So what if I'm 16, does that take away from me the right to express my opinion? I try to get in a conversation and all I get is Christian haters telling me not to be hateful, rude people telling me to be smarter. I'd nominate DG for the "respect thy neighbor" prize if there was such thing.

Chill out, man. I wasn't saying, "You're not allowed to express your opinion cause you're 16 and I'm a Nazi". I was saying, "Hey, maybe you haven't thought this through enough." As for mentioning your age, I just found humourous that a 16 year old could give such a definate answer when people of greater experience have spent many, many years researching the same thing. So, you don't have to get defensive and start calling me a Christian Hater. Just take a deep breath, think about your original post a little more, and move on.

And I do respect my neighbour. He just bought a new motorbike. He's pretty awesome.

[Blackthorne]

Sometimes there are no explainations and we should just enjoy our lives without needing to rationalise/analyse/moralise all the time.

DG, I once took you as a silly prohpet, whom I could rely on for wit and wisdom, but now I see that I cannot, for I spell "realize" with a 'Z', much like I would spell rationalize,analyze, and moralize.  What a harsh world we live in.

So what if I'm 16, does that take away from me the right to express my opinion?

No, it certainly does not.  It does, however, generally preclude you from being anywhere close to something that could be construed as "correct"!

And I do respect my neighbour. He just bought a new motorbike. He's pretty awesome.

Did you know Jesus rode a Harley? 

Bt

[Pumaman]

For many animals it's painful (Koalas, Lions, etc), or feels like nothing much at all

So erm, how did you discover this ... or had I better not ask?

[SpacePirateCaine]

So erm, how did you discover this ... or had I better not ask?

Heh, it was something I remembered from biology class back in High School. My teacher thought it necessary to let us all know that we were the lucky ones that got to enjoy the act, and it stuck with me (for the same reasons, I imagine, that it did with you). The Koalas and Lions thing I managed to find as definite examples by googling "mating is painful". They're the first and third pages that come up.

...I suppose it would sound a little odd without foreknowledge, wouldn't it?

[YOke]

For many animals it's painful (Koalas, Lions, etc), or feels like nothing much at all

So erm, how did you discover this ... or had I better not ask?

Coming from the PUMAman I can't help to wonder wether he's cracking a joke or looking for a date...

[DGMacphee]

Sometimes there are no explainations and we should just enjoy our lives without needing to rationalise/analyse/moralise all the time.

DG, I once took you as a silly prohpet, whom I could rely on for wit and wisdom, but now I see that I cannot, for I spell "realize" with a 'Z', much like I would spell rationalize,analyze, and moralize.  What a harsh world we live in.

In Australia, we spell it "phofet".

Did you know Jesus rode a Harley?

http://yourmajormalfunction.blogspot.com/2004/10/that-wacky-jesus-5.html

[Peter Thomas]

Sex has NOTHING to do with kids. That's like saying kissing was invented so we can share cold sores.

[Harvester]

For Andail: Me, I'm from former Yugoslavia (more precisely - Bosnia, but I rarely mention that since I kinda hate being called a Bosnian). Most people here are pretty conservative (though not many of them are religious), so you may imagine why I'm such a homophobic bastard. Ã, 

For Yakk: Very good point! If you read my comments, I don't think you'll notice I ever said anything against ANYONE, I only expressed my views on the homosexuality. Heck, looks like only Peter Thomas is not offended by my comments Ã,  And Farlander, too. Well, also Wanderlady and Guybrush. And a few others. Oh well...

[Peter Thomas]

Would now be an appropriate time to tell the community I was joking?

EDIT: For the sake of peace and love - and because if I don't clear this up I will be flamed for the rest of my life - I am NOT joking. It was just a question to see if it was an appropriate time to SAY I was joking. Heh. Oh yeah - that was good. Totally smoooooth. Joking about a joke.

*wins prizes*

[Kinoko]

Sometimes there are no explainations and we should just enjoy our lives without needing to rationalise/analyse/moralise all the time.

It'll be good for the economy!

[Blackthorne]

...kissing was invented so we can share cold sores.

It's a fun way to collect something!  Hey, everyone has to have a hobby!

Bt

[BernieLaraemie]

I collect left hands

~~Bernie L

(. . .who is hoping other people saw that South Park ep too. . .)

[Babar]

Gaaah! I doesn't understand! Its teh p3nish! All mammalses share teh p3nish! Or teh vaj1naaaa!  Both hases lotsa lotsa nerves! Hence teh "Good feeling" when doing it! Doing it! WHY should it hurt anyone? Why shouldn't all mammalses enjoy it? I doesn't understand!!!!!!!!

*Babar goes nuts

On a side note, I collect internet cards

[Nacho]

Totally out of topic, but for increasing the knowleadge of my poor friend Babar... Let me tell you that, for example, the penis of the lion has some kind of "hooks" that make the act harmfull to the female lion...

And Chris, I know because I have Discovery Channel...

[Guybrush Deplugerood]

So what if I'm 16, does that take away from me the right to express my opinion? I try to get in a conversation and all I get is Christian haters telling me not to be hateful, rude people telling me to be smarter. I'd nominate DG for the "respect thy neighbor" prize if there was such thing.

Chill out, man. I wasn't saying, "You're not allowed to express your opinion cause you're 16 and I'm a Nazi". I was saying, "Hey, maybe you haven't thought this through enough." As for mentioning your age, I just found humourous that a 16 year old could give such a definate answer when people of greater experience have spent many, many years researching the same thing. So, you don't have to get defensive and start calling me a Christian Hater. Just take a deep breath, think about your original post a little more, and move on.

And I do respect my neighbour. He just bought a new motorbike. He's pretty awesome.

The "christian hater" was not aimed to you but anyways... I didn't claim what I say is absolutely correct and again I remind you I wasn't serious about the "sex is fun so we do it and have babies" part. But anyways I'll shut up now.

[Guybrush Deplugerood]

Edit: But I still say that the reason behind it is kids

Ok now I'll really shut up

[TheYak]

For Yakk: Very good point! If you read my comments, I don't think you'll notice I ever said anything against ANYONE, I only expressed my views on the homosexuality. Heck, looks like only Peter Thomas is not offended by my comments Ã,  And Farlander, too. Well, also Wanderlady and Guybrush. And a few others. Oh well...

Actually, I wasn't addressing you specifically.  I wasn't offended by your comments.  Unlike some masochists, if I were to find something offensive, I'd ignore it.  Rather, I addressed issues revolving around conservatism, religion and hypocrisy because I was enjoying the discussion.  Coming from an ultra-conservative, uber-religious household, I know well the viewpoints other than my own (and have essentially agreed to disagree with my parents) but do enjoy discussing them with people that can present their case intelligently or, at least, intelligibly. 

As for Peter Thomas (which sounds like some mutated apostle hybrid), you've conducted yourself maturely and intelligently enough that I couldn't care less which viewpoint you blather from, whether it be from a Christian view, gay perspective or some mad conglomeration of both.  Just keep it up.   

As for Christians arguing that sex is for reproduction, you obviously haven't read your bible much.  There are a couple references to it being something a man and wife do to be closer without any prerequisite need for attempted conception.  Granted, you still have the point of man and wife but your other argument fails.  Genesis 2 v24 -  For this cause a man shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and they shall become one flesh

As for homosexuality in nature (and last I checked, weren't people natural?) some species exhibit it.  Sometimes it's to show dominance, sometimes merely misguided instinct but it happens.  There was an experiment with a species of butterfly wherein through genetic manipulation, they created a homosexual butterfly.  Yes, I'll grant the point now - it was forced, not found.  However, any amount of splicing and dicing we can do could very well have happened many times over through vehicles of mutation and adaptation. 

Perhaps homosexuals are mutations or cast-offs of the growth of the human species but even in that case, I could never find the necessary amount of arrogance and ignorance within myself to hate a person for the sole reason of external differences (particularly one that doesn't affect me in the slightest). That's quite a statement considering how friggin' pompous I can be sometimes.  Actually, I take it back...  a guy I know was born without an appendix.  I can't stand that freakish bastard.

[BernieLaraemie]

Homosexuality is a deviation or mutation, as is red hair and blue eyes.

This is coming from a red headed, blue eyed gay man. . .

~~Bernie L

[Blackthorne]

Homosexuality is a deviation or mutation, as is red hair and blue eyes.

This is coming from a red headed, blue eyed gay man. . .

~~Bernie L

FREAK!

Not that there's anything wrong with that.........Ã, 

Bt

[Peter Thomas]

There isn't?