Bone: Out From Boneville

Helm · Mon 27/03/2006 04:36:34

QuoteIt's going to be like what would've happened if LucasArts had made a game of Bone during the beginnings of Bone in 1992-1995

No... no. Not at all.

Hammerite · Mon 27/03/2006 16:29:18

QuoteIt's going to be like what would've happened if Midas Entertainment had drawn a scene out of Bone very quickly during the beginnings of time in 3000,000,000BC-2999,999,992BC

Corrected.
Corrected to the max.

Renal Shutdown · Mon 27/03/2006 23:32:57

Quote from: yodaman11111
well, for one, I don't know how to post screenshots, so I CAN'T have anything to show for it. I have screenshots on a website, but I don't know what the coding is to post screenshots.

[and..]

check in the production thread everyone... there's a working thread for this game with screenshots and everything

1.Ã,Â You could've just put the address of the image. Or read above the Message box during a post where it has a link saying "How do I post images, smileys and formatting?".
It's not rocket science.

and..

2.Ã,Â Why not just put the thread in the Games in Production?Ã,Â Was it really necessary to start a thread in Gen-Gen?

EDIT:
I just saw this was moved from Adventure Related Talk & Chat. It's not really necessary to post it there either, tho.

lo_res_man · Mon 27/03/2006 23:38:50

well, he did, but the "art" was so bad it made my eyes pack up and take a vacation.( but I got the buggers, they forgot about the optic nerve!:D ) I am usully forgiving to all people who make pixal art and all that, but DAMN, it didn't even seem to show any care being put into it

just scribbles.
sorry friend but, DAMN it was BAD.

Steel Drummer · Tue 28/03/2006 18:10:17

The characters are good, the bgs aren't too good though. If anyone wants to help with the backgrounds, they can. And btw, I'm REDOING most of the backgrounds so there, loresman. And many other games have bad bgs AND characters (especially Life of D. Duck). Go to www.freewebs.com/bonevillegames to see some characters (and whoever it was that posted on that site's guestbook and put R U GAY?, you are a pervert and don't go there anymore).

biothlebop · Tue 28/03/2006 18:16:28

It is used as a gimmick in D. Duck, to resemble kids drawings, and it was fun too. If everyone started to make D. Duck copies, the idea would grow old fast, without writing to save it. Just like modern art can be a cut up newspaper on a pedestal, it isn't as cool the second time you see it. Avoid gimmicks.

lo_res_man · Tue 28/03/2006 18:33:13

Quote from: yodaman11111 on Tue 28/03/2006 18:10:17
The characters are good,

uh huh, well like biothlebop said "Avoid Gimmicks" believe me, its just annoying. it 's kind of funny you have this nice clean website. nice and organic looking, and these crap (just cuz D. Duck did it doesn't mean YOU should) characters. Boneville is such a nice graphic novel that I don't think it does the game a LICK of justice to draw such BAD "art"
sorry if this offends, but don't I think drawing these endearing characters in such a way is in any way defensible.

Hammerite · Tue 28/03/2006 18:56:38

why the hell dont you like 3d adventure games?
theyre EXACTLY the same really but 3d.
I'll admit the artwork sometimes is better than the 3d environment but hell, its story and content that counts.

Scummbuddy · Wed 29/03/2006 01:23:00

For whatever graphics program you are using, I'm sure there is a circle tool to draw circles as you hold down the mouse button to your desired size. This could be used when redoing the moon, or any of the Bone boys. Such as their head, torso or nose. I believe this would be a good help.

Another thing that bothers me, is that one of the boys has an arm that is not curved, like a muscle, but is a jagged line, which I just can't understand. Please try to take your time when making your art. It's okay for it not to come out the way you want it the first time. We all hit the undo button. And no one here would be upset if you were to half-trace Smith's work, at least for the Bone brothers, since we'll be seeing them the whole game.

Kinoko · Wed 29/03/2006 01:58:36

Seems I do one of these posts every few months.

Okay, I have some advice for you yoda and it's up to you whether you listen to it.

Firstly, I took a look at your Games in Production thread after reading this thread, and I think that while people were corrent about your art being quite low quality, it's your right to make any kind of game you want. People have the right to tell you they think it's a bad idea, but you have the right to make it anyway if you like. Making games, no matter how crappy, is good practise and you will only get better and better. I encourage you to follow the game through and finish it. Learn from it, have fun with it, and then come up with a better idea the next time.

If you want to get along with people in these forums, you're going to have to change your attitude though.

Firstly, don't take jabs at the moderators. Particularly Darth because he does a -wonderful- job of keeping the Games in Production forum in check and if you knew him probably, I'm sure you'd like him. It won't earn you any respect and you'll never win. The moderators here are moderators because they're mature, know the board well, have been here a long, long time and people respect them. If you don't like something a moderator has done, the mature thing is just to swallow your pride and take it.

Secondly, I recommend you cool off your posting until you've viewed the forum for long enough that you know what kinds of things belong in which forums. Don't try to tell me you know now, because you　clearly don't. It will take time and patience, but eventually, you'll get there!

Just try to restrain yourself, watch others and learn. Don't double post (modify your original posts). Ask for art advice in the Critic's Lounge.

Also, I highly recommend you don't just take shots at other games. You're never going to earn any respect by saying, "These famous, well-liked AGS games have crappy art so it's okay for my game to have crappy art". People aren't going to take kindly to you saying these successful games have crappy art. D. Duck of course is an exception because that's the style it was purposely trying to do and as people have pointed out, it's a joke that's only funny once in a while.

My final piece of advice is just to calm down, work on your game by yourself (get help in the Critic's Lounge by all means) and do it FOR yourself, learn from it. Don't start new threads for a bit, just read the forums for awhile and learn how other people behave here.

I guarantee if you can take my advice well and ignore any mean comments people may throw at you (just in case, not saying that's already happened) and act maturely, you'll eventually become a respected member here like everyone else.

Renal Shutdown · Wed 29/03/2006 02:14:18

Quote from: yodaman11111 on Tue 28/03/2006 18:10:17
The characters are good, the bgs aren't too good though. If anyone wants to help with the backgrounds, they can. And btw, I'm REDOING most of the backgrounds so there, loresman. And many other games have bad bgs AND characters (especially Life of D. Duck). Go to www.freewebs.com/bonevillegames to see some characters (and whoever it was that posted on that site's guestbook and put R U GAY?, you are a pervert and don't go there anymore).

Characters are good? Er, depends on how you define good, I s'pose.

This Life of D. Duck. Did the artist say on many occassions that the artwork was good or going to be remade to be better? Ã,Â If (s)he did, were they being serious? (I've not played or seen it, so I can't judge).

And as for complaining about comments on your guest book.. Ã,Â Why bother making a guest book if you're going to throw a fuss over the comments? Ã,Â It's like having a suggestion box and then stropping if some one suggests something you don't like. Ã,Â People are entitled to their opinions, no matter how childish. Ã,Â If you give them an outlet, don't start moaning that someone has used it. Ã,Â Also, what is perverted about about "R U GAY?". Ã,Â It could have been a lot worse. Ã,Â Unless you're ridiculously homophobic or something. Ã,Â I'm assuming you're quite young, so I'd suggest you don't go critising people and cultures you have no experience of. Ã,Â It'll get to the point where you offend someone you shouldn't, and you'll suffer because of it.

Anyhow. As to my reason for posting..

The site. Ã,Â Aside from the midi files that play automatically, which annoys me greatly, since it's the standard "I have nothing to say, but I want a website" style of HTML from the late nineties..

It looks like you've put more effort into the site than you have into the game. Ã,Â I'm mean, Jesus. Ã,Â Make something, then make a site to promote it. Ã,Â Make anything for that matter, then promote it. Ã,Â The site should be secondary to a product. Ã,Â If you're that desperate to have an online personality, get a livejournal blog, or a myspace page. Ã,Â Something where you can tell us what music you like, what your favorite food is, what your idea of a dream date is, and what color socks you're wearing at the moment.

Or better than that, don't.. Ã,Â Because they are already too many desperate losers on the internet with absolutely nothing to say, but who still need a place to say it.

Steel Drummer · Wed 29/03/2006 04:48:37

what do you think is bad about the characters besides the jagged-ey arm? I think it looks decent In comparison to everything. This is only my second full-blown project ith ags so I'm still learning. I'll clean up the character art a bit if it looks any better... and about the website, Spleen, I don't like people putting rude comments like that, because I'm against gay people. The website barely had ANY time put into it anyways, 'cuz it was freewebs. Oh, and I hate 3d adventure games because they are never as good as the classic 2d ones and also because my computer can't play very many of them and also because the adventure genre is just better in 2d. And why does everyone only have negative things to say about this project?!......

MashPotato · Wed 29/03/2006 04:59:24

If you want help and advice as to how to improve your characters, make a post in the Critic's Lounge. People aren't going to respond to you here.
As for the rest of your post, I would suggest watching what you type, and making sure that's what you really want to say...

Gilbert · Wed 29/03/2006 05:01:10

Sierra and Lucasfilm point & click adventure games were sometimes categorized as 3D action adventure games at their time...

Kinoko · Wed 29/03/2006 05:19:02

yoda: Me and my sexy underwear model girlfriend are against you too. So ner.

Hammerite · Wed 29/03/2006 16:15:34

Quote from: yodaman11111 on Wed 29/03/2006 04:48:37
Oh, and I hate 3d adventure games because they are never as good as the classic 2d ones and also because my computer can't play very many of them

then how do you know that theyre bad then and why you against gays? i'm not one of them but being completely against them is just politically incorrect and crap.
I bet your a member of one of one of those conservative American Bushbumming families

Ishmael · Wed 29/03/2006 16:27:04

Quote from: yodaman11111 on Wed 29/03/2006 04:48:37I hate 3d adventure games because they are never as good as the classic 2d ones and also because my computer can't play very many of them

I'd be just extremely sad if my computer couldn't run Doom, Heretic, Hexen etc. but not hate those games or the FPS genre all in all for it.

Btw. Ever played Full Throttle? It's 3Dy and a very excellent game.

Hammerite · Wed 29/03/2006 16:39:27

i'd probably just get it upgraded.
its not TOO expensive to get halfdecent software.
and grim fandango is the greatest lucasarts adventure ever and its 3d.

ManicMatt · Wed 29/03/2006 17:24:03

Quote from: yodaman11111 on Wed 29/03/2006 04:48:37
Spleen, I don't like people putting rude comments like that, because I'm against gay people.

Just for that I'm not doing any voices for your next game! Well... okay I wasn't going to anyway to be honest.

Steel Drummer · Wed 29/03/2006 18:50:32

Nope, I haven't played Full throttle. I hope to get that or The Dig at some point. They both sound like excellent games. I'd download the abandonware copies of them but my internet's too slow to. And about all that homosexual stuff: Being politically correct is monkey crap. That means that you accept everything as ok. I guess you think terrorists, thieves, rapers, druggies, and other lowlifes are ok, then, right

? I may be a *Canadian* Bushbummer (or in my case, Harper) but at least I don't support a guy that looks like Herman Munster and acts like **** (or in canada, a guy that always frowns and is financially stupid, meaning Paul Martin). Enough of this frickin' stupid talk . This thread is supposed to be about a game. Oh, and by the way, ManicMatt, my game is too old school-styled to have voices. They were just an add-on which I guess I won't have.