Darth Mandarb, stop pissing people off

Started by Andail, Sun 10/08/2003 16:47:19

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Andail

There's now a decent list of people you've managed to annoy quite severly, many of which aren't known to be easily offended.

So, for the sake of the forums, I recommend that you change your attitude sligthly, or stop posting.

One thing you could start with is to listen to criticism aimed at you personally without just letting it wash over you as water, followed by some smiley and a "cheers".
You have literally stated that it is pointless to tell you off, because you simply won't change.

Well, I tell you now, change.

Trapezoid

Christ, don't make this another Yufster situation.
Have a little tolerance. Mandarb isn't bothering me in the least.

Evil

My guess is that Andail is one of those people ¬¬...

Darth Mandarb

Couldn't this have been better handled with a PM?

And I get yelled at for making 'stupid' posts?

cheers,
dm

Evil


Robert Eric

Posting it publically helps amplify the effect.
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Archangel (aka SoupDragon)

This is the way I see it:

1. People should not have picked on Darth's thread; I don't see anything wrong with it.
2. Darth, you have to admit you are a bit cocky. I mean, no offence, but maybe you should give a little, act less sure of your own superiority?

Pessi

#7
I have absolutely nothing against Darth Mandarb and do not wish he would stop posting.

And I wish that makes me a bit more qualified to say that the last Darth's post in this thread proves Andail's point. Not saying that this matter couldn't have been better off dealt in private though.

Anyway: think about it. If Darth Mandarb has pissed off people, doesn't it mean something is wrong? If it does, shouldn't something be done?

Even if Darth has been using the same tone as always, it hasn't pissed anyone off until now. Why now? Perhaps because it's the inevitable when people get to know each other better. Like when a relationship isn't new and exciting anymore, people start to express the things that they are irritated by. In my opinion, it has happened here before, just in larger scale, so that no one really got pointed at.

So, what I'm saying is - be open to suggestions, think them over. One can say the same thing in either negative or positive manner. Sometimes one has to adapt to retain a relationship. If you have to tone down your posts so people wouldn't consider offensive even they aren't meant to be - then it's something you should consider. It's very small price for the result.

Let me tell you a story just to make this reply resemble more of those novels I sometimes used to post. Well, actually, I'd just like to present a situation I had, involving the same human trait that often slows down or inhibits progress.

I have a friend that likes to draw. She's pretty good (with shapes, at least) and the first time I saw pictures drawn by her, I told her I liked them a lot, and that she was good. She didn't seem flattered or anything, so it seems like she had got good response before.

One time, I told her how one of her images could be made better. In the same way as I do in the Critic's Lounge. And it seemed as if she was a offended by that. As if I was saying I didn't like her art anymore. And the reason for that is, I believe, that she really believed that she was so good at art that there practically was no place for anything else but praise, especially from a regular scribbler like me. Sure anyone would welcome criticism from Craig Mullins! ;)

Once I started to elaborate my criticism, introducing her to how ambient light's color affects the shadow's color and how light bounces, for example, she started to realize that perhaps she wasn't as good as she thought she was. She couldn't dispute what I was telling her because it was about such a science as art, where there are distinct rules. If I was to say she should be more positive, how would I prove it to her if she really would think she already is positive? No way.

Anyway, this lead to the fact that she started to learn more about colors and light. Along with the realization of her actual artistic skills came the option of learning more. If she would think she's great at every aspect in art already - why would she think there's anything to learn?

So... It's about one's conception of oneself, and people really don't want to change that. It's because they want to protect the way they see themselves. If someone says "you're stupid" and you would believe it, it would lead to false conception of yourself. People need to be more convinced. And that is where everyone should really consider what the other one is saying. Perhaps it CAN be true (not meaning the 'you're stupid thing :)). You won't lose anything for considering. Take a minute to really, really think about it.

With realization comes the option. As I read from an article concerning meditation.

And by the way, I don't think the Ascii Art link thread was useless or out-of-place. Perhaps the criticism on that was because of other issues, which would be the tone of some of Darth's posts.

Sylpher

All of you people are being unreasonable. I'm not sure how or why or where or when all this started. Who was at fault or who presisted the problem. But you are acting like you are 5 fucking years old. All of you...even me.

We are tearing this forum apart and destroying all that is good about it.

* Sylpher eats a cookie.

Dmitri

back during one of the myriad of war threads we had, Darth said a lot of things that got on my goat; because I remember really severely disagreeing with him.

and I used to hate his ugly avatar too

times change, I mean hell, I remember a thread where I claimed that capitalism was the ultimate virtue and that I'd wring this planet's neck for every scrap of oil I could find in order to be rich.

mind you, that WAS a joke, but I was still proud of capitalism

now I'm more of a closet door capitalist...

but my point is... times change, people grow up, Darth hasn't managed to piss me off in a good while
Pretzels :B

Sylpher


mitar at work

Andail!! I think it is YOU who is pissing US off. I used to think you were cool...   :P Darth Mandarb rules!!! \o/

Scummbuddy

please dont use the word "us" cause that would include me, inwhich it does not.
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Raggit

Andail, I don't feel this thread is really needed.  I mean, who has he really offended?  All of us offend each other now and then, but who cares?

In fact, by posting this you kinda made me mad.  Maybe I should go start a "Andail, grow up or stop posting!!!1!" thread.  But there isn't a need to becuase it is more trouble than it's worth.  I'm not trying to stir this brewing fight anymore than it needs, but I think you're just causing more problems and making things harder than they need to be.

If I was you, I would have PMed Mandarb first, as this might actually be more of a personal conflict. Especially since he really hasn't stirred the pot.   And also, what you said about criticism and him, I think it is a good thing to ignore personal criticism insted of flying into a rage about it.

So please try and loosen up.  It might also be a good idea if you were to explain WHY you think he has offended such a large number of people.

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Sylpher

Okay, I shall take this a little more seriously. Look people. LOOK! Here is a thread..

http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=7768

A thread I personally would have liked to take part in. I have very strong feelings about the mp3 issue and have never discussed it in this community..and lets see I have been here how long now? But! I cannot because it was locked.

There is no reason for it to be locked. It didn't break any rules. Has a clearly stated title. Uses full sentences. On topic and in the right forum. No ranting or raving. No exisive use of smileys or over sized images. No racial remarks or unbareable swearing...there isn't ONE thing in it that is breaking any rule on this forum. Yet it was locked.

Now, look again!

http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=7775

We have another post in which he tries to share something with the community and is shot down. Does that justify his response? No...Does that mean he doesn't have a shitty attitude..I dunno never spoke to the guy.

But if you guys think your actions and posts weren't out of line then all of you need to 'change'.

I thought this community was a place anyone could discuss anything they wish freely...and without having to be worried about adolescent bull shit like being called stupid or being shunned. Everyone is so damn touchy lately. This is the general forum..Three years ago I made a thread about cheese that spand 35 posts and it was fun and I liked it and nobody told me to shut the hell up and if they did I would have eaten them...

I would ask the Mp3 thread be unlocked because I personally would like to discuss in it...and if it is not I will make a new thread...and if that is locked then there is some funky deeper issues going on around here that need to be subsided pronto!

DGMacphee

Jesus Horatio Billy Bob Christ, I can solve this situation very easily.

People who've made some notable contribution to the community (i.e. games, artwork, music, help with scripting, etc) can start new posts without much oif a prob -- people will be civil if you have some amount of respect earnt.

However, if you've contributed nothing of great notability, watch out and expect criticism for posting too much!

The General forum is a privilage that game makers EARN!

That's why I don't get shitcanned greatly for posting a year old NINJA website -- I just get the odd person say 'This site is old. Soon people wil post ALL YUOR BASE stuff.'

And it's the same reason why Chris wouldn't get shit-canned if he started an ASCII art post.

SO STFU AND MAKE YOUR GODDAMN GAMES, YOU ASSES!!!

(This post has been posted in two threads to reitterate the message)
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OneThinkingGal and ._.

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TerranRich

Andail, this is fucking ridicuous. I DESPISE personal threads. This could easily have been resolved in a PM. No need to drag this out in public. Now grow up and may we have no more nonsense like this.

Not like anyone wil care, but I swear to God if I see one more thread like this, started up by a RESPECTED "elder", then I am leaving this community for good. Who's with me?

...

Eh.
Status: Trying to come up with some ideas...

MrColossal

#18
QuoteThat's why I don't get shitcanned greatly for posting a year old NINJA website -- I just get the odd person say 'This site is old. Soon people wil post ALL YUOR BASE stuff.'

thank you DG you win.

Andail, this is PM material I do believe.

if anyone has a problem that this was locked, take it up with a moderator or better yet, me personally. I'd rather you didn't bother CJ...

eric
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