Disney blocks next Michael Moore film

[DGMacphee]

I'm warning you all! If this conversation turns to religion, I'm going to do another segue!

FEEL THE WRATH OF THE SEGUE!

[Nacho]

What does segue mean? No answer in my online translators...

* Farlander wants to understand DG's posts...

[DGMacphee]

A segue is a transition from one conversation to another. It's actually more of a musical term, but it's also applied to conversation.

[Andail]

Remember the fourteenth commandment:
"Thou shalt not segue"

Woops! Seems like I managed to turn this into religion after all.
Darn it.

[DGMacphee]

It's funny you mention religion cause George W Bush is a huge Christian. Speaking of GWB, did you know that F911 is about the man himself?

(YES! Still got the moves!)

[SSH]

I thought that a segue was one of those funny little scooters that keep themselves upright using gyroscopes...

[Andail]

Remember the fifteenth commandment:
"Thou shalt not confuse segues with gyroscope-controlled scooters."

man, I did it again.
I'm like DG with his Hitler.

[Las Naranjas]

Speaking of Hitler, it would be non productive to liken anything to the Nazi regime for the purpose of discussion, for example comparing Dubya to the Fuhrer.

Especially noting the difference in film careers. Triumph of the will is far more supportive than, say, Farenheight 911

[DGMacphee]

Speaking of gryoscope-controlled scooters...



I DID IT AGAIN!! WOO!! IN YOUR FACE, SPACE COYOTE!!

[Primus]

http://universitypress.info/AmericaBetrayed1.html

Religion?!... Politics!!!... All is due to politics!!!...

[Scummbuddy]

I dont remember who, but someone is making a movie called "Michael Moore Hates America" and a lot of top journalists walked out of the premiere of the movie, recently.

[Ben]

I dont remember who, but someone is making a movie called "Michael Moore Hates America" and a lot of top journalists walked out of the premiere of the movie, recently.

http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/

Not sure if it's friendly satire or raving conservative bullshit. Sometimes it's hard to tell.


And sometimes it's easy 
http://www.counterbias.com/059.html (completely unralated to the above link.. just thought it was a pantload of laughs)


One quick question: How many people actually think Moore's film will succeed in its goal? Seems to me it's just pissing off conservatives and dividing the nation even more. I don't want to reelect Bush either, but is this the.. er..  SAFEST way to fix things?

[juncmodule]

I don't want to reelect Bush either, but is this the.. er..Ã,  SAFEST way to fix things?

No. I don't think so.

I agree that the whole conservative vs. liberal thing is a little carried away. Attacking Michael Moore isn't going to solve anything just as much as liberals attacking Bush. I mean, I can't stand the guy and all, but investing so much money to talk trash about him is a little counter productive.

On the other hand if Moore's original point was to make the nation aware of the Bush-Bin Laden connection, then I think that's okay. Problem is he's taken it up as a crusade to "remove Bush from power". Or at least that is the spin the media is putting on it.

I think Kerry has the right idea. Stand around and don't say much of anything and let Bush get himself voted out of office. I'm not sure if it's working though. As little as I currently like Kerry I can't really say I'm 100% ready to throw my vote his way. Right now the only reason I would vote for Kerry is to vote Bush out. But, I don't need Michael Moore for that, and neither do most of the Americans that would agree with his movie. Really all Moore is doing is making those that are on the fence with Bush just go ahead and stand firm on his side(Bush's).

Once again though, I don't think this was Moore's original intention, I think the media and fame has turned his point into something else. Maybe I'm wrong.

EDIT: I just wanted to point out this article. I found it a bit shocking. (WARNING, there is a picture from the prisoner abuse at the link which is somewhat disturbing.) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3834089.stm

I'm just confused as to why my country needs immunity from a war crimes court?

later,
-junc

[DGMacphee]

I found this quote from another forum:

A fuckhead co-worker of mine asked me who was destroying the republican party. I answered 'themselves'.



Also, the reviews for F911 are in. 84% from Rottentomatoes.com (77% from the cream of the crop):
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Fahrenheit911-1133649/

And a 67% on metacritic:
http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/fahrenheit911/

Why the difference? RT gets scores from more sources, but metacritic gets scores mainly from the major publications.


Also, from what I can tell, the film is more toned-down than BFC. I like this comment from Stephen Whitty:

"When Moore is willing to forget his personal animosity for a moment, his film regains its amazing power."


And this from Ebert:

"If the film is not quite as electrifying as Moore's "Bowling for Columbine," that may be because Moore has toned down his usual exuberance and was sobered by attacks on the factual accuracy of elements of "Columbine"; playing with larger stakes, he is more cautious here, and we get an op-ed piece, not a stand-up routine. But he remains one of the most valuable figures on the political landscape, a populist rabble-rouser, humorous and effective; the outrage and incredulity in his film are an exhilarating response to Bush's determined repetition of the same stubborn sound bites."


But Fred Topel gives a negative review, as this comment shows:

"Moore has resorted to showing us stuff that The Daily Show covers all the time. Did you really need this film to tell you that war is bad?"


And this negative comment from Glen Lovell:

"A film so sloppy, illogical and formulaic that it begs the questions: Can a hatchet job actually elicit sympathy for its sitting-duck target?"

[MrColossal]

lord's name in vain what now? anyway

again, please tell me where these people are saying that we can't blame the terrorists for september 11th. do you have names?

and is the 9/11 commitee trying to blame september 11th on anyone? I thought they were there to find out what happened security and intelligence wise in the United States.

So maybe you can answer my questions now:

http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?topic=13722.msg180631#msg180631

I guess not...

[Darth Mandarb]

While surfing the 'net I came across this little gem ...



I thought, this is a good thread for this!Ã,  I don't know why calling him fat is funny ... but the picture is a pretty good likeness.

[DGMacphee]

Calling Michael Moore fat is really just a cheap potshot. I mean, it's like saying Rush Limbaugh's points of view are incorrect because he's fat:

[Ali]

That's what's great about Michael Moore! He embodies everything associated with the US.

That's what makes it hard to say he hates America - He's a chubby, baseball cap wearing, beer drinking blue collar joe.

[Sutebi]

After 9/11, a lot of people came out saying that it was our fault that it happened, I think some equated it to the tower of Babel. Then other's came out and said, "No, this just Islamic extremists." If you want specific names, that might take a while to find as this happened a long time ago, but I could try, I just have been rather busy recently.

Yes, I am sure the intent of the hearings are to find security and inteligencey agency problems in the United States, but because nowadays no one accepts culpability for their actions, it has turned more into an attempt to blame everyone but themselves. No one wants to lose their jobs so it's rather silly.

In reference to your other post, no, I did not complain when the French did not join us in the war. I have faith in the American troops, and know that they were quite capable of handling Iraq without all the white flags getting in their ways.

And yes, I believe Bush stands by his word. He said that he would help ease Iraq into a democracy, and he done so.

What I mean by "tired old connections" are these conspiracy theory things about Bush. Like www.bushbodycount.com that tells us how many people Bush has secretly killed. That's just weird. I remember when that used to happen for Clinton, which was also really stupid, but at least then the majority of the news organizations where saying how "mentally disturbed" these "Clinton-Haters" were. But, as we can see, there is nothing wrong with Bush-hating now.

[MrColossal]

By "people" do you mean just random people on the street? In reference to people saying it was the US's fault?

Or do you mean Senators?

Again, on Bush standing by his words. You mean he stood by his word. What about all those other words he said like finding Osama Bin Laden dead or alive or No Child Left Behind or that health records would remain private?

Also, I haven't heard anything silly like that website. What news networks do you watch and how the heckfire can you not remember the Clinton impeachment trials? And how people attacked and attacked and attacked him and his wife and even his daughter? Oh wait, just like people attack Bush and his wife and his daughters... Oh wait, so everything is exactly the same. Hooray!