Emo Music

Started by Afflict, Thu 06/03/2008 12:12:47

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Afflict

LOLOLOL Ok so seriously I was wondering what does everyone concider as emo bands / music since, it seems no one I speak to agree on this topic.

No fighting mkay, let's try and figure it out.

Tuomas

30 Second to Mars... Mew... What are there, I don't listen to this, but it starts from a whole lot of angst, and crying and covering your faces with makeup and hair and being all emotional :) Some people might even think it's cool.

Ubel

My Chemical Romance, one of the most "emo" bands I've heard. Quite awful too. Gwen Stefani is very emo too.

Then there's the Finnish band called Poets Of The Fall. Their music is pretty emo but it's still the kind of music I like.

Also, what Tuomas said.

[Cameron]

Old emo was kick ass, like Gang of Four, Fugazi, Cursive, stuff like that. There is different brands of emo really. Generations actually, first, second and unsurprisingly third. Third is that make up wearing whiney MCR crap.

Rincewind

I won't get myself too deep into this discussion about what's emo or not, seeing as I really don't have enough interest or knowledge to make statements about it, but I will say one thing: Gang of Four? Haven't they always been post-punk? :S

[Cameron]

Post punk and emo kinda blend at points. It's difficult to seperate it all really.

InCreator

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Boybands.
Any male that sings about love in whining, just-been-castrated, female-like voice.
Ballad singers. Enrique Iglesias & rest of the clone bunch.
Even some - otherwise very good - rappers (jungle emo, often called R'n'B or "pop music failed in all 3 points - no proper melody, rhytm or singing").

This what I consider true emo. Not hairy kids with black makeup and zero guitar skills.
And I hate it.

Girls love it though.

Tuomas

You can't really go arguing genres. BUT!

I'll have to disagree with InCreator. For instance, Mr. Iglesias Jr. Is a pop singer, who, as pop is, does ballads too. Most ballads are pop. Now the word emo comes from emotional, but if you think that all emotional music is emo then you are wrong. Basically most music is based on emotions and what I'd define emo is like overacting the emotional side of something. And by that I mean leaning the originality of the music only to the side that is about overwhleming emotions. If you sing about love you'll find yourself one of the 90% of musicians, but the best way to define emoism is the stereotypes. There are people who are emotional, and people who do everything emotionally. That's the difference to me. Some want to pose as extra emotional, and bring it out in their music. Not to sound sissy or to make girls scream, but to sound like someone who has something emotional going on and wants to talk about it and let it go.

Now boybands go to the cathegory of pop that pleases most of the target audience, which is girls. Girls like to hear about how they are loved and admired. But the difference is here: Backstreet boys sung "girl you are my everything, I love you" and the emos sing "I love you so bad it hurts, if you won't love me, i'll have to cut my wrists open." And there's the difference in my opinion.

Eigen

Dashboard Confessional

Rincewind

Quote from: [Cameron] on Thu 06/03/2008 14:14:47
Post punk and emo kinda blend at points. It's difficult to seperate it all really.

Well, fair enough, I suppose, seeing as both genres emerged from punk/hardcore, it's hard for them not to blend into each other in the end. I just felt Gang of Four was a rather odd example. Wasn't their most important and defining work made in the late 70's/early 80's, before there really was an "emo"-scene/genre to blend with? I'm not saying they weren't influential to the genre, just as they've been influential to loads of other genres, I just wouldn't call them a part of it.
A great band, whatever you choose to call them, anyways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwQ_WJWX68

[Cameron]

I think, like you said, that Gang of Four largely influenced Emo. They were part of the post-punk/hardcore scene very early on, which led to Fugazi a little later around the time it began transforming into the first generation of Emo. Because of this I'd say they were emo, or at least inextricably linked. Lemme put this in a metaphor so I can properly express what I'm trying to say. Gang of Four were old black guys, and first generation Emo was Elvis  :=

ildu

Mew is emo now?! I've always thought of it as art rock. Why exactly is it emo?

Death Cab for Cutie (neutral)
Secondhand Serenade (ugh)
30 Seconds to Mars (eww)
My Chemical Romance (double eww)
AFI (blarrgghhh!)

Emerald

My Chemical Romance
Bullet for my Valentine
Evanescence
Nightwish
Within Temptation
Panic! at the Disco
Linkin Park
Deftones
Green Day

et cetera

Hammerite

I agree with [Cameron].
I strongly disagree with Mew and Deftones being emo.
I don't know what's worse with all this MCR-style emo crap - the music itself or the people who claim to be 'emo'.
i used to be indeceisive but now im not so sure!

Emerald

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Quote from: Hammerite on Thu 06/03/2008 17:29:49
I strongly disagree with Mew and Deftones being emo.

Deftones is the emoiest band of them all! Seriously, I've never heard such emoy vocals


The shade... is a tool... a device... a savior
See, i try... and look up... to the sky
But my eyes burn...

Come shove it!
Shove it!
Shove it!

Shove it!
Shove it!
Shove it!



And the way he sings it is like he's bleeding to death...


Edit: Linky

Tell me that's not emo...

The Suitor

haha Deftones, should be Tonedefs  :P

FSi++

You forgot the greatest album of them all - Obscura by Gorguts.
It's not really emo, in fact it's Brutal Death metal, but come on, listen to it.

Rincewind

Quote from: [Cameron] on Thu 06/03/2008 15:46:21
I think, like you said, that Gang of Four largely influenced Emo. They were part of the post-punk/hardcore scene very early on, which led to Fugazi a little later around the time it began transforming into the first generation of Emo. Because of this I'd say they were emo, or at least inextricably linked. Lemme put this in a metaphor so I can properly express what I'm trying to say. Gang of Four were old black guys, and first generation Emo was Elvis  :=

Haha, I like the methaphor get what you mean, yeah. I think we're very much along the same lines, really. I still wouldn't go as far as claiming them to be a part of the genre, but hey, you can't agree on everything. Heh. :) It's a bit like the arguing about whether proto-punk bands such as MC5 or The Stooges should be classified as punk, since they influenced the late 70's punk wave...

Haddas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQOBoA8g3RI

This is the perfect example of Emo. Read the Description aswell for an emo person

Nikolas

Quote from: Haddas on Thu 06/03/2008 20:00:11
This is the perfect example of Emo. Read the Description aswell for an emo person
Song is half bad/good. Description is so awful it's to laugh!

So emo is in fact 15-16 year olds with slight depression? And over 20s that never got over that phase as well, in music?

Mew, do sound like emo actually...

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