Farewell, Whitney Houston

DBoyWheeler · Sun 12/02/2012 22:38:05

As you may have known by now, Whitney Houston has departed this life. :'(

Feel free to post your memories of the late musician here.

Here's to you, Whitney Houston. We'll miss you deeply.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Mon 13/02/2012 03:09:33

As sad as it may sound, Whitney's followers have had about 15 years to prepare for her death with her rollercoaster drug addiction and hospital visits/recovery bouts and public misbehavior. She was literally burning the candle at both ends and rolling the dice for 15 years; oddly enough, much like most addicts, it wasn't the hard drugs in the end but the prescription shit that did her in. Xanax, from what I hear.

Khris · Mon 13/02/2012 09:00:58

Thousands of children are going to die in the next 24 hours from starvation and untreated trivial illnesses.
I don't give a fuck about Whitney Houston.

Also, a week ago, billions of people didn't give a fuck about WH either.

Gilbert · Mon 13/02/2012 14:18:23

What's your point then? Why are you even posting in this thread?

InCreator · Mon 13/02/2012 14:29:06

Oh. The maker of cheesiest, sleepiest, most irritating love songs for every straight male worldwide who in his erroneous way tries to impress a girl by acting tolerant and suffers through the cat-in-heat concert for a song or two. She has passed away now.

Farewell, truly.

LimpingFish · Mon 13/02/2012 17:59:34

There's no need to be nasty, people. If you don't care, then don't post. I'm about to not post right now. Just watch how easy it is.

Armageddon · Wed 15/02/2012 06:55:03

I know, but...

Stupot · Wed 15/02/2012 22:34:50

She was still someone's mother. She still had friends and family. The difference between Whitney Houston and the thousands of dying children and is that Whitney Houston was a household name, someone we can put a face to, whether we're fans or not. She only dies once, therefore it is an event. Sad as it may be, starving children aren't a single person, they're a statistic. One dies every time I click my fingers. It's a sad fact, but it's not an 'event', it's an on-going global problem.

Noctambulo · Thu 16/02/2012 11:32:07

Quote from: Stupot+ on Wed 15/02/2012 22:34:50
Sad as it may be, starving children aren't a single person, they're a statistic. One dies every time I click my fingers. It's a sad fact, but it's not an 'event', it's an on-going global problem.

That's not sad: It's tragic...

Stupot · Thu 16/02/2012 12:13:39

Quote from: Noctambulo on Thu 16/02/2012 11:32:07
Quote from: Stupot+ on Wed 15/02/2012 22:34:50
Sad as it may be, starving children aren't a single person, they're a statistic. One dies every time I click my fingers. It's a sad fact, but it's not an 'event', it's an on-going global problem.

That's not sad: It's tragic...

Okay then, tragic :

It doesn't really matter which synonym I use, it doesn't change the point I was trying to make.

InCreator · Thu 16/02/2012 12:19:45

Requesting thread lock.

Noctambulo · Thu 16/02/2012 15:01:05

Quote from: Stupot+ on Thu 16/02/2012 12:13:39
Quote from: Noctambulo on Thu 16/02/2012 11:32:07
Quote from: Stupot+ on Wed 15/02/2012 22:34:50
Sad as it may be, starving children aren't a single person, they're a statistic. One dies every time I click my fingers. It's a sad fact, but it's not an 'event', it's an on-going global problem.

That's not sad: It's tragic...
Okay then, tragic :
It doesn't really matter which synonym I use, it doesn't change the point I was trying to make.

I wasn't trying to change the point, but give emphasis to it. In fact, I should have written "beyond tragic"...

Stupot · Thu 16/02/2012 16:42:44

@Noctambulo - Ahh fair enough, my bad

For the record, I wouldn't exactly call myself a Whitney fan either, but it's a shame that whenever such an RIP thread is started, people are quick to abuse it by pointing out how much of a shit they don't give . Unless I missed the point and DBoyWheeler actually started this thread as a joke? In which case, I'll get my coat... :/

Atelier · Thu 16/02/2012 17:45:08

Quote from: Khris on Mon 13/02/2012 09:00:58
Thousands of children are going to die in the next 24 hours from starvation and untreated trivial illnesses.
I don't give a fuck about Whitney Houston.

Also, a week ago, billions of people didn't give a fuck about WH either.

It's not impossible that DBoyWheeler had, after a life-changing vision, auctioned off his private island, gave his fortune away to Oxfam, then spent years of charity work helping some of the poorest people on the planet. Not likely I know, but because he is sad that Whitney Houston has died, it doesn't mean he's ignorant to what's happening across the planet, and that this thread is just another manifestation of his white-man problems. The OP could care about dying children more than the next person.

Khris · Fri 17/02/2012 09:22:55

I get why people mention it when a celebrity dies. It's because everybody knows the name, so it's kind of interesting.
I just wanted to point out that they're still a human being, and not technically or in any other important sense different from a starving child. So while I understand that people don't open a thread every 24 hours about another 3000 dead children, mourning celebrities to me is shallow, hollow and superfluous in the highest degree.

Houston very likely died of not being able to take drugs responsibly for the better part of her life. She had a great voice and played herself in a successful movie. That's it.

If someone dies who actually made a difference, that's another story.

Babar · Fri 17/02/2012 10:45:19

The difference being that her work was at the very least some sort of experience for many people, which, while they are still tragic, isn't something you can say for the thousands of deaths happening across the world every hour.

When a relative dies, one mourns and feels sad and remembers all the shared experiences, and memories and stories and so on. Maybe they had horrible habits, or weren't the most moral person in the world, or didn't contribute all their money to save starving children, but that isn't the point. This could be taken in a similar way with someone like Whitney Houston, only that the shared experiences (music) and memories of those experiences and stories would play a smaller part in one's life (unless you were a rabid fan). Added to the fact that it is someone so many people know, and shared those experiences and such, it isn't so far-fetched that people would mourn them.

It is a bit odd that EVERY time someone publicly (in this forum) mourns them, there is a contingent of people who must chime in to talk about the silliness or hypocricy of it all. I mean, I realise that everyone has a voice and wishes to, and has a right to share their opinions, but still...

Sure, I understand that the influence that she may have had would vary very greatly person to person. I, for example, don't know much about her, except that her cover of "I will always love you" was probably the best so far.
But if someone bothered to start a thread about the death that wasn't just an informative "Hey, Whitney Houston Died", they PROBABLY were influenced by her more than those who wouldn't care at all. Are their experiences and opinions less worthy because someone else doesn't consider her so important?

Khris · Fri 17/02/2012 11:05:30

Quote from: Babar on Fri 17/02/2012 10:45:19But if someone bothered to start a thread about the death that wasn't just an informative "Hey, Whitney Houston Died", they PROBABLY were influenced by her more than those who wouldn't care at all.

That's the point; I disagree, and that's why I posted. Though I'll admit it is an allegation.

Babar · Fri 17/02/2012 11:52:21

You disagree that some people were more influenced by Whitney Houston or that she played a (marginally) more significant part in their formative memories and experiences than she did with you?

Or are you "disagreeing" in the sense that it is not the same with you?

Khris · Fri 17/02/2012 20:22:52

I disagree with the notion that when somebody opens a thread like this, they were PROBABLY influenced by them more. Because I expect at least a passing mentioning of that influence, and there wasn't one.

Was there a "Hitchens died" thread? That's something I can see myself opening, for instance. Houston was just a singer who couldn't handle a relationship or coke. Way more important people die all the time, and they don't get mentioned.

Babar · Fri 17/02/2012 20:36:03

Well, you should've started one then, no? Evidently DBoyWheeler cared more about Whitney Houston than Hitchens, and he says he will miss her deeply (no idea if that was just hyperbole, but who am I to judge?). Be difficult to make comparisons on who influenced who more and who considered who more important, but then again, it is mostly subjective. Are you suggesting that Hitchens was a better human being than Whitney Houston? If it is a matter of "importance", how are the starving african children that nobody will know relevant?
If someone you consider important died, and you wish to create a thread in their remembrance, you should. But trash talking someone else's influences because they aren't YOUR favourite person or whatever...seems a bit petty, no?

The tail end of this thread seems to have devolved into something that could be mistaken for me and Khris bickering at each other, so just to clear things up, Khris is awesome and codetastic, and this is just friendly forum conversationing!