Favorite Kings Quest moment???

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Nikolas

Radiant: She probably wouldn't...

But then again, for the lazy ones, a link maybe... :=

scourge

i always liked the KQ games. Proof of that is that i bought KQ8.

But i don't understand: the woman mostly ripped all those tales and legends! Its a bit lame now that i think back on it. And making a remake of a copy-story type game sounds lame to me now .... i just ruined all of KQ for myself. How'd i do that?!

Mordalles

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esper

You just kicked everyone's ass, Mordy.

Actually, good luck with that. I hopped on over to KQIX (where I found the information on the poosible "Rosella" perpetrator) and posted MY game on their forum, having cut and pasted Rosella's initial post here and edited it for my game's purposes...

...It was deleted in a half hour.

I don't know whether that's  ;D,  :'(,  :-\, or  >:(.
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Mordalles

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Ubel

Quote from: Mordalles on Sat 07/01/2006 11:15:47
once my game is finished, and I'm about to release it, I'm going over to kq9 forums and start my own hype thread there all about mordy. and i advise everyone else around here do the same. they shouldnt have a problem with it. they started it.
Quote from: esper on Sat 07/01/2006 11:18:50
I hopped on over to KQIX (where I found the information on the poosible "Rosella" perpetrator) and posted MY game on their forum, having cut and pasted Rosella's initial post here and edited it for my game's purposes...

You do realise how immature your acting is, don't you?

Pet Terry

Favourite mordy moment?



lol pwned
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Babar

Sorry in advance for the rant.

Quotethis means war.
No it doesn't. Don't be silly. I very much doubt that Rosella meant any harm when she posted this thread. So she wants to hype KQIX. Why is that wrong? It's all very well to joke about this stuff, but if you are actually posting about your game at their forums, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that either, except for YOU. YOU will be the one who knows that YOU are the one who is actually posting for the reason of "revenge" of "getting back" or something. (YOU not being anybody in particular).

Nobody's attacking you, esper, but where do you think this KQIX thread should have been posted? It's not made in AGS, should it have been in "Games in Production"?

I agree with Potch. My favourite King's Quest moment would be KQ5 - the ice queen, and battling Mordack. I loved KQ6 too. Not so much KQ7.

For all that people will say that they hated the KQ series, for people (such as myself) who started out Adventure games with that series, it's classic.
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Pet Terry

Quote from: Babar on Sat 07/01/2006 11:38:02
For all that people will say that they hated the KQ series, for people (such as myself) who started out Adventure games with that series, it's classic.

Agreed. King's Quest 5 was one of the first adventure games I played so it will always have a special place in my heart even though it's full of walking deaths. I don't mind so much about the sudden deaths scenes, I mean, it's quite obvious that if you walk off a cliff, you fall to your doom, right? :P

As for the favourite moment... well, when playing with my friend we used to laugh at many funny animations in King's Quest 5. I can't really think of any favourite moment, but if I had to choose one it would be from King's Quest 5 or 6. I never really got into the earlier games, I haven't even played 7 and the demo of 8 didn't convince me.
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esper

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Pabs: immature? I can't speak for Mordy, but me? There is method to my madness. Team A performs illegal maneuver on Team B, and are not penalized... actually, they are encouraged to continue performing said maneuver by members of the team against which the maneuver is being perpetrated. Member of Team B performs same illegal maneuver on Team A and receives a foul, thus effectively proving illegality of said maneuver. Member of Team B calls him immature, and other members of the team that agree with him.

Petts: Member 2 of Team B agrees with Member 1. Another member of Team B makes fun of an earlier play by Member 2 that scored Team B some good points, not because it is constructive, or because it helps Team A to stop scoring on them, but because he thinks it is funny to put down people who work hard for the team so he looks good.

I'm not saying there is any kind of "competition" going on here. The "Team" thing was just an example. What I am saying is that Rosella may not have meant harm by coming here, but what she DID do was sign on these forums specifically for the purpose of PR'ing KQIX. After she'd collected all her "hip rap songs" and "works of art" and gotten everyone over here "hyped" about KQIX, she never would have been seen again. It's a marketing ploy. It has nothing to do with this community, and as such, has no place in it. I'm sure if I gave someone proper motivation they would go around to other people's forums and say "I'm excited about this new project, let's hype it up!"

Not to mention that she was a bitch just because people were making little jokes, which happens in EVERY THREAD ON THESE FORUMS!

PS: I doubt Mordy meant "this means war" as in, "oh, no, we have to compete for whose better now," but rather that what is tolerated on these forums not being tolerated on theirs is not fair.

PPS @ Babar: WTF? So KQIXers posting on our forums about a game not made in AGS, trying to hype it and get us to help PR it for them, is okay, but when I go to do the same about MY game, which I am very passionate about myself, there's something wrong with me? I posted in their general forum, and I used the exact same format Rosella used. Am I wrong only because my game is not a big glamorous production with a big staff that is a fangame of one of the best adventure games ever? .......Elitism and bandwagoneering at its finest...

Just as you say no one's attacking me, I'm not attacking anyone. Just saying THINK ABOUT IT!

It doesn't even matter. It's like the .0000000001 K of bandwidth this thread is taking up actually matters in the long run, because that's the only effect the whole thing has on the real world.
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Wretched

Easily the best moment for me was when I deleted it from my hard drive.

Pet Terry

God, I'll never attemp to make a joke again.
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Babar

Quote from: esper on Sat 07/01/2006 11:55:52
PPS @ Babar: WTF? So KQIXers posting on our forums about a game not made in AGS, trying to hype it and get us to help PR it for them, is okay, but when I go to do the same about MY game, which I am very passionate about myself, there's something wrong with me? I posted in their general forum, and I used the exact same format Rosella used. Am I wrong only because my game is not a big glamorous production with a big staff that is a fangame of one of the best adventure games ever? .......Elitism and bandwagoneering at its finest...

Just as you say no one's attacking me, I'm not attacking anyone. Just saying THINK ABOUT IT!

It doesn't even matter. It's like the .0000000001 K of bandwidth this thread is taking up actually matters in the long run, because that's the only effect the whole thing has on the real world.

keeemon, esper! Think about it is right. WAS there anything wrong about what Rosella posted, really? She wanted to hype KQIX. Some of us will think that is silly. But it's not WRONG. As a group of adventure game makers, we're interested in adventure games, such as the upcoming KQIX, and your game.
Now your reason to post there didn't really have anything to do with hyping your game. You say it yourself: you used Rosella's format exactly. You wanted to "counter-attack". Technically, nothing wrong with that either, it's just something for you to think about.
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esper

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This is getting out of hand, and it's 99.9% my fault. So I'm an asshole. Maybe I should stop caring about the "marketing machine" like a hippie and just relax.

Babar: No, seriously. This has nothing to do with adventure games or adventure game making. If I posted "Your favorite KQ moment," it would be so people could remember fondly a good game. The reason Rosella posted it is because, as Squinky pointed out, she is on the KQIX staff and is trying to get people to remember KQ so they become interested in KQIX. It has nothing to do with KQ, but rather with getting hits to their site and downloads of the game. If I did the same thing, even here in General, my thread would be locked or deleted. Rosella posted here ONLY to pimp the game. Why don't we have CJ start an advertisement forum specifically for people to come here and sell their products? I'll tell you what's next. Pepsi is gonna start paying us 20 bucks a month to have the banner showing the characters from our games holding cans of their soda.

Plus, I wasn't counter attacking... Just running an experiment.

*Esper can never go to Mittens now, having successfully pissed off all veteran members of AGS*

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Ubel

Quote from: esper on Sat 07/01/2006 11:55:52
Pabs: immature?

Yes, immature. You were pissed off because of the way Rosella was acting here. So you went and did the same thing on their forum that she did here. I remember doing similiar things last time at the age of 11 when I was angry at someone...

Quote from: esper on Sat 07/01/2006 11:55:52
It's a marketing ploy. It has nothing to do with this community, and as such, has no place in it.

Has no place here? Who is to decide such things? You? I think not! If anyone is to decide about what you can or can't do on these forums, it's in my opinion Chris Jones and nobody else.

The state of General Discussion has been discussed many times before... and in my humble opinion there is really nothing that would not fit in this forum section. So I see no reason why Rosella could not advertise the new King's Quest here.

esper

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I WASN'T PISSED OFF DAMMIT!!! (the all-caps is just a joke, mind you)

Seriously. I was just running a liitle experiment. It's not like I was trying to pull a prank on their community so I could sit back and guffaw and say "HA! Look guys, I showed them!" I was simply showing people that they don't like it, and therefore should not be doing it to us.

If you are cool with it, fine. I'm not trying to usurp power. I wouldn't make a good mod, because I'm too arrogant. The whole reason this has gone on this long is because I have a pride issue. And, to all, I'm sorry. I probably should have shut up by now. However, my point was never to say she should not have posted here. I went along with it, until Rosella started acting like a jerk. MY ENTIRE PURPOSE FOR THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT was to tell her NOT TO GET MAD AT US BECAUSE WE WEREN'T PROPERLY MARKETING HER GAME! Everything else I have said was simply to back that up.

I really am excited about making games. I'm excited about the one I already made, and I'm excited to make more. However, when I make my next game and try to hype it, and my thread gets locked, I'll look back and see someone who signed up here JUST to hype their own game being allowed to do so and wonder why I even try being a part of a community in the first place. Maybe if I make fun of you you will see the light and help me, like you're doing here.
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Nikolas

Hey, I think that what Rosella did is just fine... Not wrong!

But this doesn't mean that me/esper/Mordy have to like it... And have to shtu up about it.

I'm rather new here, despite my 750+ posts... But still I find this thread, indecent and a poor marketing device to get EVEN MORE attention to KQIX.

I feel a little tricked.

Rosella is saying :"Let's talk about Favorite KQ moments..." and in the first post there is a word "hype". Now these are two completly different things.

Nobdy is saying that AGS Forums (especially the Gen gen), has to have something to do with AGS, but this is rather ridiculous...

Whne I poseted my 1st post, I was locked almost immediately. The post was something like :"Hi! I'm new. I'ma fucking great composer. Do you need me, anybody?". And Barbarian was kind enough to explain to me that these forums are not for personal bosting and that there ios a thread precisly for that. Then locking came.

This thread is advertising to me! And as such, and even worst disguised, it has my pity...

As for Roberta, well... she did steal all fair tales, but she had a talent of sawing them together pretty nicesly. So... Well... I guess... it's ok... maybe... I've done it with my music anyway.

esper

And, even if we AREN'T moderators, and can't say "Hey, I've locked Esper's threads, and Nikolas's threads.. But  I'm not going to lock this one..." We can still say "But look! She's making fun of you!"

And, Pablo... Who is this Chris Jones guy you're talking about? Oh, you mean pumaman, the person that Rosella included in her rant about how we were children whose little minds couldn't comprehend poetry and therefore should make up secret handshakes for our friends on the bus? He doesn't mean squat around here, because Princess Rosella said so!
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TheYak

I find the forced-hyping pitiable, but it's not alleviated any by the response. 

There are frequent mentions of "theft" of common fairy-tales.  I never thought of them as theft, since it was quite obvious that Sierra & Roberta Williams didn't craft them.  Maybe it doesn't speak well for their skill as authors, and they might not be particularly creative persons when it comes down to it.  Giving players a chance to interact with some of their favorite childhood tales (often in irreverant ways) hardly comes down to the same thing as theft, in my opinion.

<waiting patiently for an SQ-devotee thread to be railed against since SQ blatantly ripped off The Terminator series (among many other sci-fi franchises and cliches>

This also seems to be another case of a thread only surviving because of the complaints.  If it's that asinine an activity, bloody ignore it.  It's not difficult, really.  If you prefer to let the author know that there's a negative opinion, I'd think you'd be satisfied with the countless previous posts and mockery.  Now if she/he/whatever kept bumping the thread or thinking of "fun" new activities that kept it on the horizon (KQ player character origami!!) I'd understand some bitter or annoyed responses. 

That said, I'm looking forward to KQ9, thought the series as a whole was solidly average, think Rosella's a twit, and will leap off of my self-righteous mildly-pissy soap-box and tap my fingers waiting for the thread to die.

Pumaman

Quote from: esper on Sat 07/01/2006 11:55:52
Petts: Member 2 of Team B agrees with Member 1. Another member of Team B makes fun of an earlier play by Member 2 that scored Team B some good points, not because it is constructive, or because it helps Team A to stop scoring on them, but because he thinks it is funny to put down people who work hard for the team so he looks good.

Um esper, I think you're taking this just a tad too seriously. I thought Petteri's post was rather funny but if you're going to start insulting anyone who posts anything that isn't "anti-KQ9" then that seems rather silly.


Anyway, yes this thread is one of shameless self-promotion by the KQ9 team. However it's still perfectly valid to ask what people's favourite KQ moment is.

As a free-minded individual you are perfectly free to ignore the KQ9 part of the thread, and just treat it as an innocent "what's your favourite moment" topic.

It's interesting that when you posted a similar thread about your game on their forums, it was deleted. Perhaps they have different forum rules to us. Or perhaps they are stricter with their moderating. I'm not going to stoop to that level by deleting or locking this thread, though.

Just try to calm down, people ;)

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