Favorite old song, and I mean OLD

[ThreeOhFour]

But this:

"What kind of music are you into?"
"GOOD music"

...is exactly what I always say when I'm asked. There's no specific genre I'm listening to and no specific music period or whatever.

Heh...I literally got smacked once for saying that. My friend says it's a cheating answer . Nobody is going to say they listen to 'bad' music. The only thing I know from the Platter's is the Great Pretenders song. The oldest song I've been listening to? Greensleeves, currently.

I hate to be Colonel Contradictor but I've actually told a number of people that the music I like is bad.

Mainly because when somebody asks me what music I like to listen to, they're looking for an excuse to tell me why the music they listen to is better. Life is easier if I just agree with them to start with .

[LRH]

Are you KIDDING?! Love me Tender is perhaps the only one of those songs even REMOTELY close to being about sex. There's a difference between love and sex, and if you don't think so, you need to straighten out some ideas in your head. I Want To Hold Your Hand, by The Beatles??! It's about puppy love!!!

"Love Me Tender" is in fact the only one that could possibly NOT be about sex in that list.
"Will You Love Me Tomorrow" is the equivalent of "will you respect me in the morning?"
"Dream Lover" is too damn obvious if you actually read the lyrics.
And do you seriously believe that a 23 year old man would want to do nothing more than hold hands?

You're a tool of the doghouse makers. :

I'm not saying there isn't a difference between love and sex*, I'm just acknowledging the existence of things callled euphamisms.

* Actually, there may well not be. I'm hardly an expert.

Yeah, I do believe that. They were the frikkin beatles, ya know, the same people that wrote about Mother Mary and the Yellow submarine? Get your mind out of the gutter, they aren't euphamisms. Take things literally, and if you don't recognize the difference between love and sex, you aren't gonna be a very satisfying mate for some girl. Plus, by saying that Love Me Tender isn't sexual, aren't you contradicting yourself?

[LRH]

I'd just like to say, sorry to...well everyone, for letting this all turn into a petty arguement, however, I just can't stand to see true talent insulted, and I get easily frustrated when it isn't recognized or acknowleged, playing sax for 11 years, which means more of my life playing it than not, it kinda makes me angry when music that requires such talent to perform is tossed on the back burner, so to speak.

[Ultra Magnus]

Yeah, I do believe that. They were the frikkin beatles, ya know, the same people that wrote about Mother Mary and the Yellow submarine? Get your mind out of the gutter, they aren't euphamisms.

Right, and of course The Beatles famously never thought about sex.
That was your point, right?

And they never used poetic license, either, meaning they actually DID all live in a Yellow Submarine?
That's an interesting little fact, there.

Take things literally, and if you don't recognize the difference between love and sex, you aren't gonna be a very satisfying mate for some girl.

Well, that's good to know.
Thanks for the reassurance.

Plus, by saying that Love Me Tender isn't sexual, aren't you contradicting yourself?

I'm admitting that that was the weakest example on the list, and it baffles me that you can acknowledge that one and not the others.

I'd just like to say, sorry to...well everyone, for letting this all turn into a petty arguement, however, I just can't stand to see true talent insulted

You're the only one arguing, here.
I'm merely poking a bear with a stick at this point.

And how is it insulting to say they used poetic license?
Some people would say that that takes more talent than not doing so.

By the way, I've been playing bass (and guitar) and writing music for the past 15 years.
Feel free to say that they're not "real" instruments and therefore my opinion is clearly worth less than your own. 8)

[TwinMoon]

I always thought "Love Me Tender" was about the sexual act? Especially when sung by Elvis, he just had sex oozing off of him...

Well, of course most songs are love songs, because love is kind of important. I think a lot of people are not annoyed by the fact that's it's about sex nowadays, but that it's more explicit.

In my opinion a song which is just pornographic is flat and boring. Using metaphors makes things a lot more interesting. The song "Milkshake" by Kelis still makes me smile a little, even when it is the grossest metaphor for boobs ever.
Tom Petty also didn't sing about smoking marijuana, but Dancing with Mary Jane (sorry if I spoilt this song for you forever )
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for saying everything you want. I wouldn't want Tori Amos to censor herself.
I just like music more when you can interpret instead of having it all spelt out for you.

Also, synthesizer music does require talent. The synthesizer doesn't write the music for you. I'm not fond of Jean Michel Jarre, OMD or Kraftwerk, but I recognize they have talent.

[LRH]

*Sigh*
Holding your opinion against mine is arguing with me.
Sure, the beatles thought about sex, they were human, but since when is that song about it?
I'm not an elitist jerk, I think your opinion is as good as mine.
What I find insulting doesn't come from you, it came way back when this FIRST started when I was told old music "gives me a headache"

I play bass too, beleieve it or not, not nearly as well as sax, but it's not easy, I know.
All my point was from the beggining is that it's a shame that musical talent isn't as appreciated these days as much as it used to be. In the video I posted, there' an entire orchestra full of people where as in many groups today, real true and blue instruments have been traded for a synthetic sound, and when people see someone playing trumpet like a beast it's a shame they don't consider one's time a dedication to making such a great sound and trade musicians such as this in for a computer. And when I say songs are about premiscuous sex with many partners? I'm saying that's just downright dirty and unappealing. When you take a song like "I Want to Hold Your Hand" it's simply something more than pure sex, unless, god forbid, I've been shown, you interpret it that way, for one reason or another.

TwinMoon- I know, and I acknowledged that point, writing takes talent, yes, but the computer plays it for you, and this is where I make my point.

I realize my "maybe this isn't for you" line was a bit arrogant, but I was caught up in defending myself, and I'm sorry for saying that.

[Anteater]

Have any of you heard the Shaving Cream Song (I don't remember the actual title for sure)? It's pretty old, and it's really funny.

[LRH]

Have any of you heard the Shaving Cream Song (I don't remember the actual title for sure)? It's pretty old, and it's really funny.

Actually, yeah, and it is, heh

[Neil Dnuma]

Don't forget Mozart and Schubert; both dead before turning 30. (seems Schubert got to 31)

...and Mozart got to 35...

[Babar]

I hate to be Colonel Contradictor but I've actually told a number of people that the music I like is bad.

Mainly because when somebody asks me what music I like to listen to, they're looking for an excuse to tell me why the music they listen to is better. Life is easier if I just agree with them to start with .

A most excellent tactic! Thank you, Guru Colenel. I spent almost a year with a room-mate whose taste in music was hugely divergent from mine. While I walked away with appreciation for some of what he listened to, he still maintains that what he heard from me is crap .

Tom Petty also didn't sing about smoking marijuana, but Dancing with Mary Jane (sorry if I spoilt this song for you forever )

And Puff the magic dragon was not about smoking weed, and Yellow submarine was not about drugs, and Michael Bolton's 'Can I touch you there' is not...oh wait a second, it is .

I dunno...I find it kinda silly to be singing in 'code'. I can imagine someone going through the lyrics, trying to find 'translations': "Ah yes, the trumpet mention there is obvious a reference to genitalia, the slab of beef they're talking about is most certainly a reference to secretive man-love, and the cocoa powder is actually drugs". I mean, I get that at certain points in history you couldn't exactly be singing openly about the stuff, but still.

As far as it goes for a aurally uneducated fellow like me, it's generally 3 things I appreciate in a song: the actual music, the meaning of the lyrics, and the 'sound' of the lyrics (whatever the technical term for that is). If the sound of the lyrics are crap, but the music is good (like many heavy metal songs I've heard), I can't bring myself to listen to it- why couldn't they have just made it an instrumental?! Even with 'parts' of the music: Even a song has "Teh Greatestest Riff in the World!" but the rest of the music is basically khch-khch-khch-khch-BRAAAAAAM, I can't bring myself to listen to it, and cutting up the song seems kinda....wrong . I guess that may partly be where  my liking of rap and hip-hop comes from- the way some of the songs play with the words and the meanings and such, even though the music may be just average.

[TwinMoon]

I just like songs with double meanings, because I think it enriches the song.
And it's not just one meaning or the other, those trumpets you mentioned are trumpets and genitalia at the same time.

And I should check my facts, thanks Neil.

Tom Petty also didn't sing about smoking marijuana, but Dancing with Mary Jane (sorry if I spoilt this song for you forever )

And Puff the magic dragon was not about smoking weed, and Yellow submarine was not about drugs, and Michael Bolton's 'Can I touch you there' is not...oh wait a second, it is .

And I meant this the other way around, if he did write a song called "Last Time I smoked some weed" it would have been a lesser lyric then "Last Dance with Mary Jane", because it's just a nice metaphor which can also relate to other things: if I were to sell my car I could say "Well, it's the last dance with Mary Jane" which for me makes the song better.
Hm, this might make not a lot sense to you, but that's my opinion.

[Babar]

That is what I meant with that statement you quoted: People can make up or understand or derive whatever meanings they want from a song, regardless of what the original artist intended. Just as they assumed that Puff the Magic Dragon, Yellow Submarine, and Mary Jane's Last Dance was about drugs.

Ah well, in the jungle, the mighty jungle, my lion sleeps tonight.

* Babar grins and runs away.

[Eggie]

I'm so sick of The Beatles, they're not REALLy good songs you know. They just all have good bits in them.

Aaanyway, my opinion is that peole who say "all modern music is crap" are just being lazy, hello? Internet. Myspace. Last.fm. if you're not into stuff on the Tv or radio then you can LOOK for music you like, you don't need to rely on mainstream outlets anymore.

That said...old stuff (pre 1970) I like in no particular order: The Zombies, Nancy Sinatra, Tom Lehrer, Frankie Stein & His Ghouls, Sammy Davis jr, Kay Starr, The Mama's & The Papa's, Cab Calloway and a bunch of stuff from http://blog.wfmu.org/

[TwinMoon]

Ah well, in the jungle, the mighty jungle, my lion sleeps tonight.

Hm, what would he mean by that?

[LRH]

Ah well, in the jungle, the mighty jungle, my lion sleeps tonight.

Hm, what would he mean by that?

O_O
Teehee.

[Dualnames]

I realised I ws gonna listen old music, when I caught myself singing Earth Angel whilst watching Back to the future.

[Oliwerko]

Basically, If you do not listen to rap,pop,hip-hop,or that popular rock kind of music, you are listening to "weird" music, thus you are "weird". Maybe a bit exaggerated, but to some extent, it works this way. I usually do not want to tell people I don't know what kind of music I listen to, because they usually just lift their eyebrows and I end up saying "I told you". I don't say that new music sucks. I don't like it though. You know, music is 100% subjective point of view on what is nice and what is not.

On topic: For me, a song doesn't have to be new to be good. I frequently listen to music from 60s, 70s, and I just LOVE the 80s music. Electronic music and metal have their roots in the 80s, that's the music I like. And pieces like Tainted Love or Popcorn are just unbelievably good, still, they are old. As for me, nothing, and I mean NOTHING can overcome that dull metal sound the 80s music has. That's something you can't substitute.

[radiowaves]

How old is old?

I also like the Platters, but I am not a fan. However, music from 20'th century middle era is very darn good, all that bossa, jazz and swing. I often browse all kinds of labels and sites that recover old music from old vinyls. I like The Jazztet, Golson, Goodmann, Raymond Scott with his experimental sounds. The list is big, actually, So its pointless to name anything. I also don't keep any favourites, i like what i like and i definately can't listen same stuff endlessly so that 'favourites' stuff is kind of meaningless.

[Peder 🚀]

Gentle Giant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWfmfgHXAfE - Proclamation
One of my older favourite songs.

Not 100% sure when this song was released but I pretty sure it was 1970 something.

[Dualnames]

There;s a song I love that's 60's like, what a wonderful world. It's not the Louis Armstrong.
The lyrics go like..
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